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My Theory-- Psychic abilities and the Collective Subconscious

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posted on Dec, 21 2005 @ 02:42 AM
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I have been doing some research on this subject and cannot find much info.
(maybe I just don't know how to search for the right words?that or I am too lazy!)


So I have come up with a theory on how it could be possible to achieve better results when trying to perform psychic feats.(my example will be for TeleKinesis).

When I say Collective Subconscious, I mean many people trying to achieve the same result at the same time and place, kind of like the experiment Uri Gellar performed back in 1976, except the results did not have a very good outcome.
IMO I think this happened because of the distance between everyone that participated.

Here is a link to that experiment

I think to achieve a better outcome of all the different psi abilities theorized,we need to group together and combine energies instead of trying to practice those abilities we so long for alone.

Kind of like when I was younger we used to play a game where one person would lie down,close their eyes and 4 of us would group around that person, one at the head,one at the feet, one on the left and one on the right side. Then we would lift that person off the ground only using our fingers. It always felt like something happened, but ya never know, kids have pretty wild imaginations!


Ok enough of my ramblings, you are welcome to post your thoughts/opinions.

later,
DitW




posted on Dec, 21 2005 @ 05:00 AM
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There is a link to another thread related to this you may find interesting

*wanders off to find it

www.abovetopsecret.com...

There you go. The Universal Mind.



posted on Dec, 21 2005 @ 07:54 AM
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Let's look at this. Back when the world held wonder and miricles happened, how was the world shaped? There was alot of wood and rock. You had wooden houses and stone castles.

Now, either things occured like magic (psyionic abilities could fall under that heading) or people merely heard a wild tale and made it true. After all, they didn't have the resources to research such a thing. If a peasent heard about some guy that could read minds, he believed it. Why would one lie to him, when one had nothing to gain? And when that man read the peasants mind (whether by actually doing it, or given questions with pre-determined answers) he could even say he saw such a thing in action. Ever wonder why so many 'medicine sellers' rode into town in pairs? One stated what he could do, and the other acted the part of allowing it to happen. Perhaps some really did, perhaps some were merely scams.

Let's, for the sake of argument, say not all things were false. For this argument bending spoons and reading minds exist. Even to this day the ability to do so is there, in every one of us.

What is different now than then?

Metal. The world is full of it, from homes to objects to basically everything. And no longer in its natural form. It has been melted down, cooled, shaped. It is no longer NATURAL.

Let us believe that all things share one simple bond. That bond is Energy. There is no life without it. By definition, anything with matter moves meaning that it produces energy. That's right, even a rock moves on its own accord, because it is made of atoms. These atoms move, though at a slower rate than a heated or fluid object. Impercievable, but motion i.e. energy. So, everything, even non life forms, has this energy.

I give to you the theory that all man has the ability to manipulate energy as it flows through things. I theorize that you can even steal or give energy. The problem with the world now is so much that is Natural is destroyed or distorted. These affects the flow of Energy that allowed such things to occur.

Now, in THIS AGE going with that theory, we have come to a time when the AVERAGE PERSON can no longer affect the energies around him because they have become so distorted. They are no longer simple. This would lead to saying (In a world where such things exist) that only STRONGER PEOPLE could control the enregies and make things occur.

Pretty much there is only two ways to get back to the Magics of old. Go back to nature (to late, unless you go to obscure rain forests or desserts) or believe in Fairy Tales.

(I believe such things can occur, and did more often in the past. However, my belief has no bearing on TRUTH.)



posted on Dec, 21 2005 @ 09:31 AM
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Originally posted by BradKellBrrexkl
Let's, for the sake of argument, say not all things were false. For this argument bending spoons and reading minds exist. Even to this day the ability to do so is there, in every one of us.

What is different now than then?

Metal. The world is full of it, from homes to objects to basically everything. And no longer in its natural form. It has been melted down, cooled, shaped. It is no longer NATURAL.

Let us believe that all things share one simple bond. That bond is Energy. There is no life without it. By definition, anything with matter moves meaning that it produces energy. That's right, even a rock moves on its own accord, because it is made of atoms. These atoms move, though at a slower rate than a heated or fluid object. Impercievable, but motion i.e. energy. So, everything, even non life forms, has this energy.


I think that everything is Natural, still. It is, still, all created of Atoms, and everything still moves, whether it's a concrete office building down the freeway, a steel sky scraper in Chigago, or a cheap home in the Suburbs. ect.

The only difference between a Log house and a Brick one, is Mankind has added 'Work' to it. (Beside the obvious texture, material, and elements of the two.) Natural has clashed with Natural, and the product is change. The hammer hit the nail and it helped build the frame. Only holding it in place, not really becoming a part of the house. A house isn't ONE with the material that it is made of.

Lets say you could look at the world through a microscope, a very powerful microscope. Un-assissted. So powerful that you could see the space between the atoms as if it were a foot or so, and you could see the movements (Add a machine that slows time to a crawl) of the atoms. Now, from that angle, do you think it would be possible to tell the difference between the interior of a steel super home in the middle of busy city and a delicate logcabin in the middle of the rainforest?

I wouldn't, without years and years of observance. And would probably be able to, only because of the atoms of an Electric current (Protons, neutrons, ect. whatever) What I'm getting to, is that it's all atoms, and it all still moves, and there is still, always, room for intentions (Best word I can come up with, but I mean, Intention on changing.)

Also, look at how your body moves... what does it? Your thoughts. I'm sure your body doesn't involuntarily move... Well, it might, but even then, you attempt to stop it and have some success in doing so. There's just a connection that you realize between your body and your thoughts/mind/soul/intentions, that you don't realize that you have with the rest of the Physical world. I'm sure that just about everyone here has seen 'What The Bleep Do We Know?'. Well remember that one chick, she was talking about how it only takes one thought, one intention to have an erection. Nothing outside of your body caused that, except maybe the beautiful girl that you saw. But that actualy induced an intention. I think I've gone on long enough to make my point. Ciao



posted on Dec, 21 2005 @ 04:36 PM
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You took nature, in it's very essense of definition NATURAL, and you changed it. To melted/smelted ore, you killed the tree, you changed the flow of rivers.

The LIVING tree has more energy than the DEAD tree, this in my theory world would increase the sensitivity to the energy as there is MORE energy to feel. The rock deep in the earth is covered by living soil and plants which in turn hold even more energy than that granite.

Once we started tearing down the living and replacing it with things with much less energy because they are not living, we lost a major connection.

The world was more Spiritual and more Mystical in a time where the world was more Natural. Now, in a world where Magic is Fact, this means that Technology or Destruction of Nature has lead to the demise of these Magics. In a world where Magic is False then Technology simply has disproven these myths. We were concentrating on the theory of the World having True Magics (i.e. phsycic phenomonon).

Once you ALTER nature, it's no longer NATURAL. That is the core of my thesis.



posted on Dec, 22 2005 @ 12:52 AM
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Hey thanks for the link Mayet!

I will check it out.

Brad, you have a good point there. Not only have we changed Natural materials but we have added alot of "static" to our environment also. All the different frequencies of light like microwave, infrared, wireless communications, the list goes on and on.


with the world demanding so much from us, as quick as we can do it, we will never be able to achieve these abilities because too much time is needed for training.




 
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