posted on Sep, 26 2003 @ 04:50 PM
Frankly I dont blame you for being skeptical because it is SO radical
But in conversation with this guy,
I would be glad to release samples of the meteorite to any group that will do real scientific tests and that will report the results of these tests to
the public. This offer has been open for years, but as yet, no one has taken me up on it. Do you know of anyone that might help? Thanks for
You might find it of interest to send samples to notable places in the UK, such as Imperial College (London), or Cambridge/Oxford.
I am sure that they have the capabilites to verify these samples, as well as examine them to a great depth..
I personally advise that you e-mail them first, most likely to the biology/physics departments, on this idea...
Thanks for the reply,
Would appreciate to be kept in the loop with how it goes,
Thank you for the suggestions. I'll see what happens.
The meteorite was made on the surface of Mars, I think, and the low gravity and atmospheric pressure means the meteorite is very "frothy." In other
words, it is full of vesicles with walls between each. I've done some simple experiments and I think that basically each vesicle is "sealed" from
all the others. Thus, even though the samples that I've taken have been exposed to our atmosphere, many of the inner vesicles and their contents
have not been exposed. So I assume that the proper lab with the proper equipment could take additional pure samples for atmospheric or other testing.
Also, due to the nature of the material in each vesicle, I would assume that each probably has a fairly complete bacterial sample of the surface of
Mars. It would be very interesting to remove some of this "virgin" material and see if anything would grow.
Thanks again for caring. Keep going to marslife for new info, as I don't have any kind of mailing list yet to keep everyone informed. I will e-mail
you if anything comes from your suggestion.
'Are the samples still 'sealed', as in the original atmosphere still exists in the meteroite?
If so, it would make verification alot easier, as well as possibly dating the meteroite accurate,
'Sorry about repeated posting, but
the finds here, if provable beyond doubt, are remarkable...
It will effectively mean that at least something out there had a evolution uniform/relatively uniform to that of our own, or alternatively that Mars
had an almost identical climate to ours.
Is there little to no chance of contamination?
The thing that interests me most is the arachnid, because as you point out the fusion of the head and thorax (alien features to most arachnids) is
Henry (and apologies for the spam)'
'Oh yes, my other point,
the lack of evolution on the face suggests that (in my opinion), they didnt need the eyes/mouth/etc.
Possibly for protection from sandstorms, due to a lack of 'luck' of evolving protective features in these places. To put it colloquially, What is
the point of having protection for something you dont even need in the first place? Perhaps they have a sonar like system, like a bat, or for feeding
perhaps an injection like system, like a common mosquito...
I just got this e-mail after answering the other two. It seems to me that there are several evolutionary principles that will be shown by the life of
the Frass Meteorite. As you mentioned the spider seems very much unlike Earth spiders. Also, none of the creatures I've seen appear to have eyes to
me, including the spider and the flying insect. How would you like to make a living flying blind on Mars? Also, everything seems very primitive.
There is almost no specialization on the "face" of anything. Sometimes I can just barely make out a mouth. Also, I think, but don't know, that
the life of Mars is more into silicon than is terrestrial life, although I think the life of Mars is carbon based because I had one sample tested for
organic carbon and it came back positive.
When I first realized what the Frass Meteorite meant, I thought every scientist on the planet would be knocking on my door to get a sample, but that
has yet to happen. I sometimes wonder where the "excitement" of new discoveries has gone. Apparently most scientist are more interested in their
careers than any actual new science that alters the way that mankind sees himself.
The Frass Meteorite is important to humanity and its implications to our existence must be soon brought to all that seek the truth. If you can help
in any way, please do.
Havent had anything from him since..
Though, this was over the last few days...
My aim is to get him in contact with top UK universities (so he cant say the US government are blocking his findings coming to light) and have them
He goes through a pretty detailed job in his website, and if you look at the pictures you will be stunned.
Though, it is a good thing he posts criticism so he's not trying to force you into making up your mind.
The whole thing is just stunning in my opinion
Ideally, the meteorite (which appears Martian in nature), would have the small chambers (see e-mails above) analyzed, which would allow us to compare
the atmosphere to ideas about Martian atmospheres...
also we could test for growth capabilities in the atmosphere..
For me, the Arachnid is the most interesting bit... As you can see if you read the e-mails, and the comments on his page..
It's unusual to say the least, and very likely not earth-evolved...
Ideally, the meteorite will be criticized to the core, because only then will it stand the test of time as to whether or not it is true..