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Originally posted by talon565
What I do find interesting is how the west can remove a leader for fake weapons of mass distruction, and shrug your sholders and grin but cant do the same for a government starving an entire population.
Originally posted by BlackThought
Remember there has been Crusades to the Holy Land many times in the past this is no different that when they did it in they middle ages.
And if you do not believe me look in the British Museum There are still items that the westerners decided to keep. I see this as a westerner we all have to account for our mistakes including current Christians, and Muslims.
I do not condone the killing of “innocent” people but keep in mind what does innocent means.
Originally posted by BlackThought
When was the last time you talked to a Muslim woman about her rights? I have Muslims in my family I listen to what they believe in for those who have not had close contact with Muslims the women run the family like in every other social group on the planet.
Don’t listen to the propaganda forces in the western world.
If you want to free women for the chains of religion then start at home Catholic women cannot lead the prayers. Southern Baptist women must "honor thy husband" and don’t get me started on the Mormon Church with polygamy. The issue of women right was really a reason to try to change society then you would see movement here in the western world.
Originally posted by BlackThought
Do me a favor have you talked to Muslim women? They do talk about their experience as the fire I could talk about Christian Science monitors who let their family members die because they do not believe in modern medicine. My house in order of my beliefs and customs. They may not be your order so you will just have to accept it west’e man. There are other cultures beside the ones out of Europe and America.
Muslims and Christian have been fighting in there since the early modern human history. What was the bombing of the wedding party in Afghanistan? Were they not innocent? What was the estimation of civilians killed in Iraq so far I bet it is more that 9/11 and military dead?
I really don’t think most of the people in America don’t really understand death being outside you door on a daily bases.
Yes they do dictate because the church is based in the community. For instance in the 10 commandments on the court grounds episode.
Originally posted by BlackThought
So guess that is why there are court cases involving neglect of children when their choice was the belief that god would spare their life. If they were so free then they would not be there.
There are areas in America that are worst than “third world countries” When was the last time you went to Brooklyn, or New Orleans?
Originally posted by BlackThought
You still did not answer the question on the innocents killed by American Troops and bombs.
At least i get to see the troops coming out of Walter Reed to talk to them. I see in their eyes what they want to forget.
You need to get out more America is a dangerous place if you the right person in the wrong place. such as a black in klan country, gang mamber in the wrong place(bullets have no name), gay in christian right coutry, or a hapless person at a atm machine.
however I wouldn't say the US targets civilians just because they can, far different from what the insurgents do. They want to kill civilians.
Originally posted by vincere7
Yes women are not allowed to be on the same page as men in Islam. They are able to study the Quran but cannot speak in public of text, or discuss such as this is left to men. Also the Quran is one body of text, clerics of course are not going to allow all readings to be available, thus - learn from your husband or study what is available. If you were to compare say the Bible or a ministry, a minster like Joyce Meyer does not exist in Islam. Women are not allowed to teach on text or communicate such. They can write books about Islam, but not digress text. I can say without a doubt most Muslim women could probably learn more on the internet about text than locally, from family, or the local mosque. But then again she could not voice her findings or discuss such,
", because women's voice is tempting, men's hearts can be moved by listening their voices reading Qur'an in a beautiful way. Qur'an isnt like the Bible, it is something like rhymed verses.
"They are able to study the Quran but cannot speak in public of text
"Women are not allowed to teach on text or communicate such."
"They can write books about Islam, but not digress text. I can say without a doubt most Muslim women could probably learn more on the internet about text than locally, from family, or the local mosque. But then again she could not voice her findings or discuss such, "
Originally posted by BlackThought
So guess that is why there are court cases involving neglect of children when their choice was the belief that god would spare their life. If they were so free then they would not be there.
Originally posted by BlackThought
Me I am tired of hearing how the religious right is correct in wanting to smash the Muslims into dust. I wish I could be as concerned about Islam as I am about Christianity but in my own life and the history of people in the US. They lynched, killed, assassinated and wrongly jailed many black people and these people were supposed to be Christian. Hypocrites that is why I don’t believe what government says until I talk to some people from the region and learn the history of the conflict.