Was Dave Chappelle Taken Down by Oprah and Co?, page 2

Icarus Rising,

You are opening a can of worms here ..a huge can but I am going to add on to this can and see what happens.

Yes I agree with you about many people being on this treadmill for years without many of them noticing it. They think this is normal...a normal part of daily life. I agree with you about Guilt tripping at its worst.

Remember something about Oprah and her audience...they are mostly women..and it doesnt do in a womans program to alienate ones audience. Truth is often in the end sacraficed to keep the audience on a string. Same can be said for all the copy cats out there. Including the body politic. What is promoted in most of these programs is expedience and self justification..within the framework of this victim mentality or dictim.
To totally understand this menatlity you must know something about a concept called male disposability and expendability. This is often practiced by males in thier attempt to woo females and taken advantage of by the female to get what they want or think they deserve within a social structure. The males are the dummys here..not the women or females.
Its up to men or males to get smart and not up to the women to "enlighten" you. Why should they when they have a perfectly good Default to play through on your ignorance..and most men are pretty dumb..socially with women...or females.

What you need to understand about women is...whether they will , when they finally default to total power and control over this nation, take care of the men in the manner men have watched over women and will they default in the favor of the new men "victims"...or will they continue to preach the party line. Will these women sacrafice to keep this system going with their every fiber of thier soul to make men comefortable and satisfied with their career earnings or will they continue the process of defaulting over to them as they have been conditioned to by Oprah et al.??
What do you think is going to happen??

What Oprah is looking for and advancing is more default to play through on a automatic setting..not on one earned ...by guilt conditioning. This is standard M1A politics. The standard mantra..or chant. This is also racism. But since Oprah is doing this how can it possibly be racism. You see the total unaccountablity or default to play through.
The willingness of a male to sacrafice and work for his women and children is one of the greatest adaptations of all time. Yet it is a given ..often taken for granted....hardly mentioned in this context. It is expected.and often more expected in the long run. The bar in adaptation is often raised on him before he even knows what is going on. What is touted and talked about ..is the men who dont make this adaptation..this is the focus point of all these types of programs..including the lie detector tests. This emotional gotcha social politics is what keeps ratings up. Little is mentioned of the men who daily and weekly and yearly sacrafice their lives and souls for thier familys to bring them options and comforts in addition to the necessities. The "victim mentality " must be promoted or you stand to loose much of your audience.

Icarus Rising ...about the "victim Mentality" I can walk into any department store here in the United States..coast to coast and see on the average about seven times more product promoted to women than to men. This often means also seven times more floor space to advertising and promoting womens products than men. You can say the same thing in the grocery stores. By the bright colours on the product the psychologists know this control mechanism of colour appeal is mostly to women ..or even to children. They are much more easily seduced by this technique than men.
This is not evidence of a "victimized " group of people by sex. Understand?
To have such a huge section of a nations economy presented to one sex for thier consumption is not "victimization"
What is not mentioned in all this appeal and merchandizing is who is going to pay for all this stuff while claiming "victimization".
What is known by manufacturers and the psychologists they hire to advertise their merchandize is that the women or female often has two sources of income from which to draw moneys to pay for thier stuff. Their moneys if they work..and often their mans moneys if they do or dont work. This means a woman often has the "option " of two incomes from which to draw..not one. This too is not "victimization"
What is not said on programs like Oprah...is the the deliberate appeal to women who are "victims" and are overlooked socially in this process..and dont have the "options" on incomes from which to spend. The men are implicit..not explicit..the women are explicit..pushed out front..as victims. This is the crime in many of these presentations..the women are socially victims.
Most men are totally oblivious to this line of thinking. Too much sports illustrated conditioning preventing them from thinking far enough. This is not a womans fault it is a mans fault for being dumb about the nature of many things. I can gaurantee you women are not dumb about this.

Remember ..this Icarus...in Oprah...the victims are often the women who dont have the "Options"...not responsibilities per se..but options..glamour..etc etc etc. Power...especially social power. Little is said about responsibility.

What any truely professional woman will tell you is that they have far more difficulty from other women in the work place than they do from men. The bulk of men they can easily handle in the work place..its the other women who are so very cutthroat and conspiring to get what they want or think they deserve. Competition among women and unknown by most men is fierce. Especially for the better jobs... You dont often hear Oprah and others speaking this line or truth.
Women in the workplace play the default settings to play through much easier than do men. Furthermore most men dont have this ability ..they must often work from the ground up without the benifit of social defaults to play through unhindered. You dont often hear Oprah or othes speak of this.

Also Icarus Rising I will remind you of one other thing made clear to me by a black man with whom I had the privelege of working years ago but have never forgotten what he said and have had the proof of what he spoke confirmed over and over again since. He told me that what affirmative action does in the long run is discriminate against the black male in favor of the black female. It limits the ability of the black man to take care of the black family by defaulting to the female..since women by nature are not looking to marry or date down the economic ladder but instead up the ladder. This economic social status is very important to women. It is part and parcel of the female religion that education cannot culture out of them..social expectations.
In this case male disposability and expendability will take over. You see a large number of women growing olde single in this black community. Often raising their children alone. It is the breaking up of this community socially.
By the way Icarus...male disposability and expendability by the female is justified under this religion Oprah and others promote. Female expendability is not justified or allowed. This is sexism....also the body politic promote and advance this male expendability and disposability.since it gets them votes. One has to be heavily preconditioned not to notice this.

By the way .Icarus Rising ...this social status..of marrying up..can be appllied to other races too. This is also how one knows about the women not being willing to sacrafice to keep this system going but thinking they are doing so much in moving to positions of power and visibility to run it by default. They will not do for men what men have traditionally done for them. You do not usually see women taking out large insurance policys so that if they die first their man has a security blanket to fall back on. It just isnt socially done. This is a indicator of diffrent social values. No matter what "experts:" like Oprah declare.

Now mind you Icarus...this is all predicated on a males ignorance and ability to pick up on a womans clues and cues to perform..without understanding the value of his labor and time in the marketplace. Sports conditioning is just a start for males to get and stay on this treadmill...and keep up the safety net that maintains a seven to one ratio of goods and services available to the female.
Only a man can be this stupid and not know this..for women are not that dumb. By outstanding male ignorance the Male contributes to his own demise..and victimhood..he is just to dumb to know it.

I am curious to see if Comedians like David Chappelle will build on this line of thinking to further humorize and expose the body politics its misues of Oprah and others in this sense. This is what I meant by David Chappelle being a work in progress. I will keep a eye on this in the future.

Thanks,
Orangetom