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Topic started on 16-12-2005 @ 04:42 PM by Corporal
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I see a lot of topics here only highlighting one aspect of the whole. Search for any New Age related subjects and sites and I promise you that it will
make more sense to you if you know your homework on secret societies and their ideals.
Illuminati --> Freemasonry --> New World Order --> New Age --> New Age Company Policies and New Age Management --> New Age Politics --> Al Gore.
New Age Sites: all of their funds, founders and ideas always connect in one way or another to the groups and movements mentioned above.
Just take a good look and dig a little deeper. Various religion sites also suspect what I suspect, so it might be interesting to search for New Age
topics on such sites too.
P.S. I felt like mentioning Al Gore in the above to back up my theory, because he already proved my point by freely admitting he is part of the New
Age movement and fully supports their ideology.
Note: New Age Sites basically show you Nazi ideology combined with Satanism but in different words. (Esoteric.)
My point? The NWO is an world wide ideology shared by numerous groups who also happen to have influence on global matters. This ideology happens to
be:
Exactly.
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reply posted on 16-12-2005 @ 04:49 PM by Corporal
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Also, look up the ''prophecy from 1987'' post. This posting also illustrates my theory to a certain extent.
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reply posted on 16-12-2005 @ 06:04 PM by suzy ryan
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Yes! I too maintain, from experience, that "The New Age Movement" is "The Old Lie Repackaged".
What gets me, is how so many people fall for "Ancient Teaching" as sources of "enlightenment" and "healing the world", when they didn't work
then and every other time they've reared their ugly heads but rather the problems they cause, move people to rediscover the value of trust in God.
Some of the most "evil" people I have known are those who justify injustice as something "you asked for" in a "previous existance".
Yes most involved are just searching, but the evil of the world make damn sure you'll find and buy it with clever "product placement" in all
"outlets" .
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reply posted on 16-12-2005 @ 08:57 PM by andpau66
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The following link is a good read about the new age movement.
New Age Movement - New Age or Old Occult
Check it out if your interested about learning more about it..
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reply posted on 17-12-2005 @ 02:26 AM by Forsaken Druid
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you serious? Explain again how new age religion is a type of new world order? Have you truely researched it?
if not let me help you with a brief summary:
www.selectsmart.com...
The first definition: New Age An umbrella term for a wide range of personal and individual beliefs and practices influenced primarily by eastern
religions, paganism, spiritism.
Its a persons own beliefs mixed in with another religion they believe in. For me im considered new age for i believe in my own understanding of life
and Paganism. IF you look at it, you can see that its a belief within a belief.
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reply posted on 17-12-2005 @ 07:10 AM by Corporal
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Originally posted by Forsaken DruidExplain again how new age religion is a type of new world order? 
Look for a defenition of New Age Management and/ or New Age Politics. As I said in my previous posting, research it thouroughly if you wish to see for
yourself how New Age already affects the global market and politics.
Originally posted by Forsaken DruidHave you truely researched it? 
Yes. The reason my posting isn't showing any in-depth information is because I want you to research it yourself. I simply gave you a few hints for
search terms and in which order you should research it in order to discover the truth.
Which is:
The Illuminati were founded by Professor Adam Weishaupt on the 1st of May, 1776. He succeeded to infiltrate the German Freemasonry Lodge ''Theodor
zum guten rat''. In this organization he renamed himself ''Spartacus''. In 1782 the Illuminati were prominently active within the Freemasonry.
Baron von Knigge (Weishaupt's right-hand.) made the Freemasons and Templars join the Illuminati order.
Evidence: In 1786 the Police searched the house of a Lawyer named Von Zwack after they found Illuminati documents on a courier who died in an
accident. These documents and it's translations can be found on the Internet on various pages.
The Illuminati moved to America. You know the rest. On a U.S. Dollar you can see the Pyramid, it's the symbol of the Illuminati. The inscription
reads as follows: ''Annuit Coptus Novus Ordo Seclurum'' Literally: ''Announcement of the birth of the New World Order.
So my the order in which I posted up the names of involved movements are right so far aren't they?
Illuminati --> Freemasonry --> NWO. (& New Age.)
The Illuminati caused the French revolution, as well as the 2nd world war. Right now, they are causing the third: The War on Terrorism. Their ultimate
goal: To destroy moral values, both Christianity and Islam and to replace it with New Age. New Age infiltrated politics already. Prove: Al Gore's
statements.
Here's your quote:
Originally posted by Forsaken DruidThe first definition: New Age An umbrella term for a wide range of personal and individual beliefs
and practices influenced primarily by eastern religions, paganism, spiritism. 
Exactly, and where do we see Christianity or Islam? Good. You proved my point without even noticing it yourself. They replaced your belief with their
''spirituality'' already.
As for paganism? You should study the 2nd World War and Mein Kampf to see how paganism affected Hitler's perspectives. It's not so difficult to
notice all the runic symbolism as implemented in his ''Third Reich'' media campaigns.
Alright, I'm not good at typing essays, maybe it looks messy and maybe I should outline myself better, but this isn't my native language so excuse
me.. But please, take some time to discover how the Illuminati, Freemasonry and New Age all link to eachother.
The New World Order is an ideology that's already implemented. New Age is nothing more than their instrument. What ATS really should do is make these
subforums emerge into one, because the Freemasonry, Illuminati, and NWO are all one and the same thing. It's not hard to see the truth really.
I just can't word it very well so that's why I'm giving you hints, search terms and insights I've aqquired. I hope you will take the pieces of
information I gave you seriously, because I'm not a village idiot or anything, it's just that my english is a bit poor.
Ask me anything and I will do my best to answer you in detail. And @ Forsaken Druid: I used to be a convinced atheïst. So it's not too late for you
to wake up. (I'm not trying to offend people like you, I'm trying to convince you of the fact you support Nazi/ NWO/ Illuminati ideology without
even knowing it.)
I don't judge anybody though, I'm at your service.
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reply posted on 17-12-2005 @ 07:32 AM by suzy ryan
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Quote, originally posted by Corporal;
The New World Order is an ideology that's already implemented. New Age is nothing more than their instrument. What ATS really should do is make these
subforums emerge into one, because the Freemasonry, Illuminati, and NWO are all one and the same thing. It's not hard to see the truth really.
Corporal, I believe these topics 'float on their own', because, 'it's much easier to hold up a fence post than a whole fence'.
The world is all but fenced in, by a seductive lie that can only be proved as a whole, so "they" insist on argueing 'pin point by pin point', so
we don't notice we're bleeding to death.
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reply posted on 17-12-2005 @ 08:36 AM by Corporal
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Long read but meh.. it perfectly illustrates my point. (some of it atleast.)
www.aaaa.demon.nl...
*edit: Sorry, won't copy-paste again.
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reply posted on 17-12-2005 @ 05:19 PM by suzy ryan
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Saddly Corporal, there are too many "New Agers" at ATS to feed this topic.
You know, the sort of people who think Child Sex Slavery isn't worth their time discussing because they believe the babies "asked for it" as
"karma" for misdeeds in a "past life".
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reply posted on 17-12-2005 @ 06:59 PM by Cug
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Originally posted by Corporal
The Illuminati moved to America. You know the rest. On a U.S. Dollar you can see the Pyramid, it's the symbol of the Illuminati. The inscription
reads as follows: ''Annuit Coptus Novus Ordo Seclurum'' Literally: ''Announcement of the birth of the New World Order. 
If your wondering why people don't take the NWO seriously is because of factual errors like this. If you read a math book that said 1+1=3 you would
tend not to put much trust in the rest of the information in that book correct?
Annuit = to be favorable to, to smile on, etc.. (announcement is annuntio)
Coeptis = beginning, undertaking
So the upper motto means favored our undertakings, not Announcement of the birth. But who favored our undertakings? I think the "official" responce
is that God did. But I have heard it said it was Providence has favored our undertakings.
Novus = New, Young, Fresh
Ordo = Order, Class, Social standing.
Seclurum (sæculorum)= generations, centuries, ages (World is orbis)
And the lower motto is "new order for the ages"
Source for the translations: The New College Latin & English Dictionary, Second Edition. ISBN 0-87720-561-2
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reply posted on 17-12-2005 @ 07:20 PM by dtorrelittlebit
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I think that everyone should keep their eyes open for these evil people. Child sex slavery and all the horrible things in this world that are going
on are serious topics to talk about. That's to bad that there are people who believe that someone deserves something as horrible as that just because
they supposedly did something in their last life (If you really believe in that reincarnation stuff). It breaks my heart to hear about children being
subjected to things like that (I have 7!) and if someone were to ever hurt my children all heck would break loose. It takes someone who has absolutely
no conscience to do those things. I know there are evil and wicked people out there who pray on the innocent like that. I have done some research on
the NWO, Illuminati, and New Age, and I have to say that I found it quite interesting. I have always believed that our government was no good, and
their ideaology does tie in together. Has anybody ever heard of the Bohemian Grove? You can go to infowars.com or Prison Planet.com to learn more
about these secret societies. Let me know what you think.
FREEDOM---IF YOU THINK YOU'RE FREE THEN YOU'RE DUMB--FREEDUMB.
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reply posted on 17-12-2005 @ 07:24 PM by bsbfan1
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Originally posted by suzy ryan
Yes! I too maintain, from experience, that "The New Age Movement" is "The Old Lie Repackaged".
What gets me, is how so many people fall for "Ancient Teaching" as sources of "enlightenment" and "healing the world", when they didn't work
then and every other time they've reared their ugly heads but rather the problems they cause, move people to rediscover the value of trust in God.
Some of the most "evil" people I have known are those who justify injustice as something "you asked for" in a "previous existance".
Yes most involved are just searching, but the evil of the world make damn sure you'll find and buy it with clever "product placement" in all
"outlets" . 
Why waste your time with that stuff, when you could be studying ufology and ancient mythology and anthropolgy? No offence, but I seriously don't
understand those people. I just don't see aliens as a source of "Enligntment" for me. I'm better off with my 300 books, bsb, and just God(whatever
"God" is?). And maybe chicken nuggets for dinner. LOL 
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reply posted on 17-12-2005 @ 07:43 PM by bsbfan1
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Originally posted by Cug
Originally posted by Corporal
The Illuminati moved to America. You know the rest. On a U.S. Dollar you can see the Pyramid, it's the symbol of the Illuminati. The inscription
reads as follows: ''Annuit Coptus Novus Ordo Seclurum'' Literally: ''Announcement of the birth of the New World Order. 
If your wondering why people don't take the NWO seriously is because of factual errors like this. If you read a math book that said 1+1=3 you would
tend not to put much trust in the rest of the information in that book correct?
Annuit = to be favorable to, to smile on, etc.. (announcement is annuntio)
Coeptis = beginning, undertaking
So the upper motto means favored our undertakings, not Announcement of the birth. But who favored our undertakings? I think the "official" responce
is that God did. But I have heard it said it was Providence has favored our undertakings.
Novus = New, Young, Fresh
Ordo = Order, Class, Social standing.
Seclurum (sæculorum)= generations, centuries, ages (World is orbis)
And the lower motto is "new order for the ages"
Source for the translations: The New College Latin & English Dictionary, Second Edition. ISBN 0-87720-561-2 
I don't do that, I just mess with history, anthropology, and politics, and legislation worldwide through my fave Law
site. It saves alot of mess, and I don't believe in "crazy crosswords". They do have the govt wanting an NWO-Utopia stuff right through.
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reply posted on 17-12-2005 @ 07:57 PM by suzy ryan
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Originally posted by Cug
Originally posted by Corporal
The Illuminati moved to America. You know the rest. On a U.S. Dollar you can see the Pyramid, it's the symbol of the Illuminati. The inscription
reads as follows: ''Annuit Coptus Novus Ordo Seclurum'' Literally: ''Announcement of the birth of the New World Order. 
If your wondering why people don't take the NWO seriously is because of factual errors like this. If you read a math book that said 1+1=3 you would
tend not to put much trust in the rest of the information in that book correct?
Annuit = to be favorable to, to smile on, etc.. (announcement is annuntio)
Coeptis = beginning, undertaking
So the upper motto means favored our undertakings, not Announcement of the birth. But who favored our undertakings? I think the "official" responce
is that God did. But I have heard it said it was Providence has favored our undertakings.
Novus = New, Young, Fresh
Ordo = Order, Class, Social standing.
Seclurum (sæculorum)= generations, centuries, ages (World is orbis)
And the lower motto is "new order for the ages"
Source for the translations: The New College Latin & English Dictionary, Second Edition. ISBN 0-87720-561-2 
Sorry Cug, you can play with the intended meanings of words all you like, and tell us others understandings arn't 'factual', but the simple fact is
that the American Dollar is 'very favourable' to the 'beginning' of the New World Order (that is 'announced' on every bill) and is the
'favoured' currency of 'World' trade in the 'Global Economy', that the U.S. has pushed on the World.
Your post supports, rather than counters, Corporals point.
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reply posted on 17-12-2005 @ 08:30 PM by Cug
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Originally posted by suzy ryan
Sorry Cug, you can play with the intended meanings of words all you like, and tell us others understandings arn't 'factual', but the simple fact is
that the American Dollar is 'very favourable' to the 'beginning' of the New World Order (that is 'announced' on every bill) and is the
'favoured' currency of 'World' trade in the 'Global Economy', that the U.S. has pushed on the World.
Your post supports, rather than counters, Corporals point. 
I don't understand what your saying. Are you impling I "made up" the Latin definitions? Or are you saying that the translation I provided is close
enough to what was claimed? I Just don't see that.
For the record I do think there is something/one/groups that are trying to control the world.. but I believe the new
age/occult/Illuminati/aliens/reptilians stuff is a blind.
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reply posted on 17-12-2005 @ 08:34 PM by Lady of the Lake
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reply posted on 17-12-2005 @ 10:16 PM by suzy ryan
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quote: Originally posted by suzy ryan
Sorry Cug, you can play with the intended meanings of words all you like, and tell us others understandings arn't 'factual', but the simple fact is
that the American Dollar is 'very favourable' to the 'beginning' of the New World Order (that is 'announced' on every bill) and is the
'favoured' currency of 'World' trade in the 'Global Economy', that the U.S. has pushed on the World.
Your post supports, rather than counters, Corporals point.
Quote by Cug:
I don't understand what your saying. Are you impling I "made up" the Latin definitions? Or are you saying that the translation I provided is close
enough to what was claimed? I Just don't see that.
For the record I do think there is something/one/groups that are trying to control the world.. but I believe the new
age/occult/Illuminati/aliens/reptilians stuff is a blind.
To,Cug, I just know you know I have never touted belief in aliens and reptilians. It so, smacks of the masons, and their ilk's, tactic of, "if you
can't deny, discredit", on those threads where we first 'crossed swords'.
Yes, I too believe the many 'streams' of the N.A.M. are a blind, like the trees that stop you seeing the forest.
Yes, I was saying, "it's close enough" and more so, I was saying it ADDS to the point you were attempting counter.
quote: Originally posted by suzy ryan
Saddly Corporal, there are too many "New Agers" at ATS to feed this topic.
You know, the sort of people who think Child Sex Slavery isn't worth their time discussing because they believe the babies "asked for it" as
"karma" for misdeeds in a "past life".
Quote by LadyoftheLake:
My goodness you do take things to extremes. Not all New Agers believe in a preordained life pattern in this life although they can and do believe in
past life. Don't brand everyone until you have learnt a little more about true New Agers.
To, Lady of the Lake, the ultimate cause and end of the New Age Movement is 'extreem' and I say this as someone who knows more than 'a little'
about many 'streams' of "the movement" first hand, and have well looked into it as a whole.
Please don't tell me I was "branding everyone"; a poodle is VERY different to a pit bull but they're both 'sorts' of dogs and I love and know
'dogs' enough to understand some are "too 'smart' for their own good", some can't help being stupid and some are killers.
I used that "extreem" example because I'm sickened by how many people at ATS put great time and passion into promoting and defending their pagan,
occult and other New Age 'faiths', yet never even 'give voice' for the countless children and adults who have and do suffer greatly, as a direct
result of the New Age Movement.
P.S. sorry for the cut and paste but my p.c. has the hiccups and won't allow me to use the quote buttons.
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reply posted on 17-12-2005 @ 11:26 PM by Cug
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Originally posted by suzy ryan
Yes, I was saying, "it's close enough" and more so, I was saying it ADDS to the point you were attempting counter. 
OK but that leaves me more confused. If the correct translation is close enough what's with the incorrect translation? Is it an attempt to make it
sound worse? Why make it worse if it's already bad? IMHO this type of thing shows a lack of integrity. (This is not directed at any poster here.. but
to the folks who started it in the first place)
As a side that is also my view on Crowley.. plenty of truth there to make someone not like him. Why the made up stuff? but that is off topic here so
nevermind
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reply posted on 17-12-2005 @ 11:48 PM by The Parallelogram
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Cug translated that sentence word for word! Close only counts in horseshoes and thermonuclear warfare.
I don't see 'New Age' spiritualism as an aspect of the new world order. Their ideals of spiritual development and general benignity seem to work at
cross purposes to the doctrines of the pseudocapitalist power-mongering type generally associated with the NWO, don't you think?
And the inclusion of Al Gore in this whole thing sort of confuses me. Where exactly does he fit in?
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reply posted on 18-12-2005 @ 05:02 AM by suzy ryan
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Originally posted by The Parallelogram
Cug translated that sentence word for word! Close only counts in horseshoes and thermonuclear warfare.
I don't see 'New Age' spiritualism as an aspect of the new world order. Their ideals of spiritual development and general benignity seem to work at
cross purposes to the doctrines of the pseudocapitalist power-mongering type generally associated with the NWO, don't you think?
And the inclusion of Al Gore in this whole thing sort of confuses me. Where exactly does he fit in? 
"Stop", at the end of a telegram has a very different purpose and meaning to, "Stop", on a road sign. The placement, and context of "word(s)"
elaborate their intended meaning and purpose.
The desire for the value/power of the American Dollar (on which 'those' words are "announced"), is the greatest force, behind the public
acceptance, of the rise of the New World Order.
The fact that so many ONLY "see" what "seems" to be benign about the New Age Movement, and not it's origen, current effect and intended end
purposes, testifies to it's deceptive nature, of "telling smooth things", in order to lead astray.
Far from being at cross purposes with rampant capitalism, the New Age Movement's "empty promise 'products', 'services' and seminars " are
milking people dry, all over the world, them leaves them feeling "worthless" for "failing" to make, what they often couldn't afford to pay for,
"work for them".
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