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The year 2020 - Playstation 6VR – Will you play ?

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posted on Dec, 14 2005 @ 03:53 PM
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So it’s the year 2020. SonySoft (the inevitable merger of Microsoft and Sony) have just released the Playstation 6 Virtual Reality XTC Box. It has incredible power and can completely reproduce a virtual reality so perfect that, apart from the inevitable flamethrower in your hand, your mind is utterly unable to distinguish the game environment from reality.
It comes with a skull chip which plugs into the bio-port on your spine and both immobilises your muscles whilst in the game and stimulates your nervous system to replicate all physical sensations from pain to pleasure.

The big release title is ‘Silent Hill 12 - Zombie Apocalypse’.

You play a chainsaw wielding lone survivor searching for signs of life in a post-apocalyptic USA. In the game, which of course is utterly convincing to all your senses, you have to go around killing zombies and other kind of monster mutations.

The graphic, physical and immersion realism is unparralled and the game carries a very real risk of inducing a terminal heart attack due to the extra-ordinary realism and terror aspects of the game experienced by the brain as absolutely real.

The question is ‘WILL YOU PLAY’?




posted on Dec, 14 2005 @ 03:59 PM
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The graphic, physical and immersion realism is unparralled and the game carries a very real risk of inducing a terminal heart attack due to the extra-ordinary realism and terror aspects of the game experienced by the brain as absolutely real.


That is speculation. I have had dreams where I was injured and hurt and even felt pain but was completely fine after I had waken up. I even died and went to hell in one nightmare... I obviously didn't die in my sleep.

The only plausible and factual risks I see is unintentional electroshock therapy but with ultra-low voltages, computer virusus that jump from hardware to wetware, and heroin like addiction as this type of console would be hackable to stimulate any part of the brain at will. Think Tek from that William Shatner show from the 80s/90s.



posted on Dec, 14 2005 @ 04:04 PM
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ummm if by the year 2020, we have "bio ports" and openings available for microchips and other technoapolocalyptic crap in our bodies then I will wield a chainsaw but most likely against those who have created and agreed to let the world head into a direction where humans are half machine and free will is dead. So yes, I will be slashing plenty of zombies but not the classic George Romero types but even scarier ones who most likely vote Republikrat at the mock elections for our One World Fueror.



posted on Dec, 14 2005 @ 04:07 PM
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Well you'll be slashing me up pretty good(if you can get close enough)

Hollywood doesn't predicted the future, we are not the borg nor are we going to become the borg.



posted on Dec, 14 2005 @ 04:12 PM
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I will definetly get close enough. You won't even hear the chainsaw because your too busy playing Zombie Land 9 on your Playstation 2020 in a virtual world so all noise is cut from "real life".


By time you log-off and disconnect your spinal chip from the government's connector cables, I'll be moving on to Nintendo fanboys.



posted on Dec, 14 2005 @ 05:13 PM
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Hilarious response Rebelsaint

I can see huge government medi-care and widespread social collapse. There will be buildings filled with millions of console burnouts no longer able to function in the real world all plugged in and too emotionally crippled to switch off. McDonalds will go bust because they will find it impossible to get staff. Let’s face it would they rather work in McDonalds for $8 an hour or be a sex crazed Rock star in their own personal VR dream-reality complete with all the rock star lifestyle or fighting space aliens on some off-world colony. Even your granny might disappear in there – she’d be zipping off to ‘1950’s land’!

All the houses across the land will become devoid of furniture – the peak oil crisis will become moot because everyone will drive to their ‘virtual’ jobs in their ‘virtual cars’ or their 'trusty steed' to their local castle in Dungeons and Dragons Land.!!

Of course, It’ll be fully sexually-interactive so all manner of sexual deviancy will be available and encouraged – perhaps even made compulsory by the deranged cyber-government!. Even Psychiatrists will be getting ‘plugged in’ to other peoples ‘realities’ and having to try and talk the freakz out of their sex-dungeons when they’ve gone a little too far.

The only ‘real-world’ activity will be robot factories manufacturing PS6 VR’s and topping up the hydroponics food drip feeders all the ‘VR Sleepers’ will be plugged into! Might solve the over-population problem though....

Have I gone too far ? Can anyone give me a few good reasons why this isn’t going to happen ? OK this won’t happen to this extreme in the first generation but once the idea has taken hold and the Playstation 7VR ‘enhanced’ arrived in 2026 I think this will be an absolute social phenomena.



posted on Dec, 14 2005 @ 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by KnightStrider
I can see huge government medi-care and widespread social collapse.


That's going to happen before fully interactive Matrix like VR. Molecular Manufacturing will be the catalyst for the next paradigm shift. Different thread though.




There will be buildings filled with millions of console burnouts no longer able to function in the real world all plugged in and too emotionally crippled to switch off.


Not I. I would like an Augmented Reality not a truely virtual one. An Augmented reality is really just the Real World except viewed through various cybernetic hud like technology. I will be one of the "oldies" that will prefer his VR while sleeping or reading a book
I want to view the world in full spectrum 360 degrees 3d with many different scientific displays like on a tri-corder heh coupled with things like Millimeter wave radar. I basically want to become a Gargoyle(it's a term for a type of person whos basically an overt spy in the World of Snow Crash)



McDonalds will go bust because they will find it impossible to get staff.


Great! I can't wait




Let’s face it would they rather work in McDonalds for $8 an hour or be a sex crazed Rock star in their own personal VR dream-reality complete with all the rock star lifestyle or fighting space aliens on some off-world colony. Even your granny might disappear in there – she’d be zipping off to ‘1950’s land’!


Some weaker minds would fall prey just as they fall prey to Heroin or Meth. Really very little difference except this is more "tangible". I foresee entire Virtual Societies springing up, maybe even competing with their Brick and Mortar cousins for sheer cultural impact(ei the Arts)



All the houses across the land will become devoid of furniture – the peak oil crisis will become moot because everyone will drive to their ‘virtual’ jobs in their ‘virtual cars’ or their 'trusty steed' to their local castle in Dungeons and Dragons Land.!!


See the link in my siggy. There will most likely be no Peak Oil Dieoff or major crises. I still believe in Human Ingenuity.



Of course, It’ll be fully sexually-interactive so all manner of sexual deviancy will be available and encouraged – perhaps even made compulsory by the deranged cyber-government!.


Imagine a cyberized North Korea with 'lil Kim the God and Lord allmighty of his realm.



Even Psychiatrists will be getting ‘plugged in’ to other peoples ‘realities’ and having to try and talk the freakz out of their sex-dungeons when they’ve gone a little too far.


I hope so. I have a few friends that need help right now as they refuse to stop playing WoW.



The only ‘real-world’ activity will be robot factories manufacturing PS6 VR’s and topping up the hydroponics food drip feeders all the ‘VR Sleepers’ will be plugged into! Might solve the over-population problem though....


I dunno about that. We are on the verge of being able to start increasing our intellect and memory with implants, some people like me see that as the only sure way to make sure Biological Life remains relevant.



Have I gone too far ? Can anyone give me a few good reasons why this isn’t going to happen ? OK this won’t happen to this extreme in the first generation but once the idea has taken hold and the Playstation 7VR ‘enhanced’ arrived in 2026 I think this will be an absolute social phenomena.


Well it is an extreme outlook, I don't think very many people would go for this in 20 years. Maybe in 50 the culture will have changed enough to make this acceptable.

Also Rebelsaint


Also you ever seen Ghost in the Shell? Brain Hacking could become a problem.

[edit on 14-12-2005 by sardion2000]

[edit on 14-12-2005 by sardion2000]



posted on Dec, 14 2005 @ 07:47 PM
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www.microsoft.com...
Seems like microsoft is already on top of it, as I'm sure Nvidia and ATI are.



posted on Dec, 14 2005 @ 08:01 PM
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Ummm

Who would risk a heart attack, utterly real pain, and death in order to play a video game...?



posted on Dec, 14 2005 @ 08:08 PM
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Who would risk a heart attack, utterly real pain, and death in order to play a video game...?


If that were a proven risk(which it isn't as of yet as the technology is non-existant) then some people would.

I would settle for a Holodeck.



posted on Dec, 18 2005 @ 11:31 PM
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At some point in the future all physical labor will be performed by robots and nanomachines. People will probably be in pods like the matrix portrayed living out thier lives in a virtual environment. Vestigial elements of human culture will carry over into these virtual worlds including the need for an economy. However money will be earned through virtual work. it seems possible that a booming industry will form in which people create virtual content for others to enjoy and use the money they earn to enjoy the virtual content created by others.

Really at this point the machines, the computers will probably be a billion times more intelligent than humans but will have some prime directive to act as custodians of our bodies and protect us. But for all intents and purposes the machine superintelligence will be in charge of physical reality.

now the point beyond that is when the human brain is mapped and encoded digitally so that you cease to be organic at all. which will be necessary to function in the society of the future, unmodified organic minds will be utterly obsolete.

looking that far ahead though is unpredictable.

closer to now there will be some interesting steps leading towards that future. Certain technologies bieng developed now are quite interesting. For example what if your wearing contact lenses which contain high definition displays that overlay your field of vision. This monitor is connected to wireless broadband. The system performs flawless real time motion tracking of what you see and can place photorealistic 3D elements into your field of view which appear totally real and interact realistically. heres where its at gprime.net... and its improving all the time. This means you'll have access to your PC wherever you go. The internet too. The chat rooms of the future will involve photorealistic avatars of the people your talking to as if they are right in your own home. With AI improvements you could even have virtual assistants that follow you around giving you reminders of things you need to do and helping you in a variety of ways. the PDA of the future eh. And the possibilities for games are pretty interesting too.

Im a 3D artist so what Im looking forward to is bieng able to manipulate and create 3D objects with my own hands as if Im sculpting and then bieng able to texture these creations as if im painting. I think it will bring in a whole new rennaisance in art.



posted on Dec, 19 2005 @ 12:14 AM
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Originally posted by guyopitz
At some point in the future all physical labor will be performed by robots and nanomachines.


In some Nations that may happen, in some other more Conservative Nations it may be delayed by quite abit due to a Technological Backlash I see devoping before my very eyes on ATS and other fora on the net. I do agree that purely Physical Labor will be extinct by the 22nd Century though I doubt Organic Life will ever be obsolete. Improved upon yes but never obsolete.



People will probably be in pods like the matrix portrayed living out thier lives in a virtual environment.


Unless they put everyone there in by force I doubt that the Majority would go for that in the beginning. If life in the Real World becomes so unbearable I can see that happening especially in the poorer Nations(that is when they become ubiquitous) I for one would like to have an Augmented Reality as I stated above so you won't catch me in a pod unless it's an inertial dampening pod for a starship




Vestigial elements of human culture will carry over into these virtual worlds including the need for an economy. However money will be earned through virtual work. it seems possible that a booming industry will form in which people create virtual content for others to enjoy and use the money they earn to enjoy the virtual content created by others.


Already happening in MMOs and other online games like Diablo 2. Ever hear the term "Chinese Farmer"? It has a whole different meaning in Video Game culture
Google it. Allthough the culture itself is changing rapidly into something that is alien to most people(i've tried to explain the sale of and purchase of totally imaginary objects in a game to a few boomers heh
)



Really at this point the machines, the computers will probably be a billion times more intelligent than humans


I would phrase this like ....
"Really at this point the machines, the computers will probably be a billion times more intelligent than presant day humans"

Cybernetics can even the score as can Genetic and Proteomic manipulation. Heck maybe even Quantum manipulation may become possible. Our Brains are still the most complicated Neural Net in existance, we are barely even scratching the surface and yet we cannot build a superintelligent AI without having a complete understanding of our on Intellect and Consiousness(and for the latter some say that is impossible but I disagree).

Already we have Sight Implants that with a little miniturization can put Geordies Visor to shame by giving the previously impaired vision much better then our own. How bout Cochlear Implants? I was reading about this guy who got one just so he could hear music again and now he can and he is only using something like 12% of the implants capabilities. Bionic Arms and Legs with touch are close to the market as well.

Imagine what artificial implants could do for things like Analytical thinking and memory? Hell put a math co-processor in there so I won't have to worry about that crap again as it would be effortless with the aid of such a hypthetical implant, then put in a 20 Terabyte Memory Implant so I can store or delete just about any piece of information my eyes or ears come across. It would be an Augment to the real think not a replacement.



now the point beyond that is when the human brain is mapped and encoded digitally so that you cease to be organic at all. which will be necessary to function in the society of the future, unmodified organic minds will be utterly obsolete.


Organic seems to be pretty hardy why throw it out completely? It's survived Hundreds of Millions of years on earth and I believe we have alot yet to learn especially when it comes to evolution. I do agree that in a Post-Human society unmodified Humans would be redundant. I see them possibly banding together in communities much like the Amish of today(maybe with the Amish
) I see a far more diverse future which is what we should strive for. Monoculture could be the death of us IMO. Could lead to stagnation.



looking that far ahead though is unpredictable.


Agree but it's fun to look though ain't it.



gprime.net... and its improving all the time. This means you'll have access to your PC wherever you go. The internet too.


Cool Video, I think it's a bit old though as I distinctly remember it. I want lol.



The chat rooms of the future will involve photorealistic avatars of the people your talking to as if they are right in your own home. With AI improvements you could even have virtual assistants that follow you around giving you reminders of things you need to do and helping you in a variety of ways. the PDA of the future eh


Hmm interesting I had not considering the AI Virtual Assitant. I want!



. And the possibilities for games are pretty interesting too.


:drool: But I'd rather have a Holodeck exactly like the one in Star Trek though




Im a 3D artist so what Im looking forward to is bieng able to manipulate and create 3D objects with my own hands as if Im sculpting and then bieng able to texture these creations as if im painting. I think it will bring in a whole new rennaisance in art.


Oh I wholeheartedly agree with you on that one. Care to show us some of your work on BTS?



posted on Dec, 19 2005 @ 12:15 AM
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Count me in if there was a way to record it for later playback and also a monitor hook up for othres to watch while playing.
Heck I'd love to play Elder Scrolls that way. My wife and I are very much into the RPG and we would definatly do it.
Now can I quite my job and do it for a living? Beta test for the companys? Heck I'd let em take a chunck of childhood for more space to store if needed.



posted on Dec, 19 2005 @ 01:09 AM
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as weird as it sounds...i am a HUGE gamer....i've played it all

but don't you think your turning this...




into this??




I'd have to say i'd pass on the pain-play.
I have a hard enough time walkin and talkin at the same time......but gettin zapped by a box?

why don't you just tazer my n*ts*ck, and call it a day??



posted on Dec, 19 2005 @ 04:50 AM
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I would give it a try!
But they would have to come out with other games first. I play BF2 now and was a big player of PS.
As for putting computer chips in my head.............. I am all for that. I am getting old and forgetting is something I am still trying to get used to.
I still can find my car out at the mall but I forget were I put the keys



posted on Dec, 19 2005 @ 09:36 AM
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Oh yeah I would be plugged in..probably permenantly..lol..My brother and I are huge gamers and we often sit around and dream of the day when we can really play..VR style...


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df1

posted on Dec, 19 2005 @ 09:56 AM
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In 2020 I would be 67 years old. I imagine that I would love to play tennis at the level I played at when I was 23 years old. If the 6VR would give me that opportunity I would surely jump at the chance to do so.



posted on Dec, 19 2005 @ 10:02 AM
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i don't think, we'll have to wait this long... I've read somewhere that sony
has patented a technology to induce sensations as taste or smells directly into your brain via ultrasonic sound. You only have to wait until 2015 I think.
And then everybody will get the BrainStation! "It's not a game - anymore"

gr33tz, l33chy



posted on Dec, 19 2005 @ 10:45 AM
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Well, I'm not into Nintendo, but my favorite game for next year is "Ghost Fleet 2006: Nitrogen Narcosis at Ninety Meters". In this game, you and your "dive buddy", dressed in "Wet suits" and "computerized dive vests" are placed in a tropical lagoon in Micronesia, trying to find remnants of a major Japanese fleet sunk there in 1944.

As you dive, you're required to keep constant lookout for "sharks" and "barracuda", and must constantly monitor your on-board computer and underwater compass to determine direction, depth, remaining air, nitrogen loading, and usage rate. Periodically, you must return to your "dive boat" in order to get "additional tanks", but be careful! If you don't spend the proper "up-time" you lose your "dive powers" and could die.

Extra points are given for recording strange and beautiful underwater life and ghostly scenery with your "underwater camera".

"Ghost Fleet 2006" will be a worthy successor to "Belize 2004: Diving the Mayan Cenotes" and its follow-on "Cabo San Lucas 2005: Mahi-Mahi at Midnight".

You want "virtual reality"?

How about reality?

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posted on Dec, 19 2005 @ 10:51 PM
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i'd still rather be tazed in the sack.

i get enough games now.....chips in my head are for movies....i'd like to keep em there.



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