sleep paralysis is almost a demonic possession!, page 3

Originally posted by deadline527

Originally posted by morbidlyobtuse
reply to post by deadline527

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I've been told this a few times before, but I feel like since %90 of my SP has involved sensing a malevolent entity in my presence, I'm reluctant wanna leave my body for fear of become possessed or attacked on a different plane, ya know?

There's been times I've felt like my body was floating or being pulled off the bed. Is that OB related?

Floating, yes. Being pulled.. I would have to say no on that. Any time I leave my body I actually have to roll out of it, literally. But instead of my physical body rolling, its my astral body. Much like how your hand was moving, yet it wasn't. Well think of that, just with your whole entire body separating instead of just one part.

I think the feeling of being watched, or something evil is basically from the fear involved. I will be the first to admit its scary as hell when you dont know what is happening. I used to be terrified of sleep paralysis so much that I would only sleep on my side in hopes to minimize it. Now that I've found out a use for it, I dont get it nearly as much as I want, lol.

Now, you also could be dreaming that you are in your bed and being pulled off it. Its not uncommon to dream that you are laying in bed, and sometimes when things happen in the dream, people think that it really happened over night. I am not dismissing it as this, just saying it does happened.

funny that you say that... I find that sleeping on my back makes it less scary or happen less. I used to sleep on my side, but then started experiencing the sense of something lying behind me and breathing heavy (almost snoring) obnoxiously in my ear

reply to post by tjack

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I think of it like this. The fear involved is mostly because you have no idea what is happening, and when you are in a half sleep-half wake state, you get what is called hypnogogic hallucinations. These can be anything from whispers in your ear, to shadows, to loud noises and often coincide with sleep paralysis.

Just think of how many people have had sleep paralysis. A LOT. How many of them people have ever been hurt? None. Sure they may have been scared, but waking up unable to move definitely IS scary. No doubt about that. But, once you start learning more about what sleep paralysis is and why it occurs, the misconception of demonic attacks is quite easily refuted.

Anyone who practices astral projection or is able to successfully project, will most likely tell you they have experienced sleep paralysis when doing it. This is because sleep paralysis happens in the exact same state of sleep that you need to be in to astral project. This half wake, half sleep state is the key.

Please don't fear it. Nothing bad is going to happen to you. Its just you have found a very thin line between sleep and wake, that your body is basically in both at the same time.

We dont want our body to act our what we do in our dreams, so this is why our body is unable to move while we sleep. But, we are at the same time conscious and able to realize we are unable to move.

Here is my little graph... lol.

[----------|--------------|------------|------------]
A---------B--------------C-----------D-----------E


A = Body is awake. Mind is fully conscious.
B = Body is falling asleep. Mind is still conscious.
C = Body is asleep. Mind is in a semi-conscious state where hypnogogic hallucinations begin. Usually you feel like you have no body at this time. Perfect state for OOBE.
D = Body is asleep. Mind is entering dreams.
E = Body is asleep. Mind is dreaming.

So basically. To astral project, you need to catch yourself in state (C) before you pass into a deep state (D). If you pass into state (E) you went too far and will just dream until you wake up.

In the case of sleep paralysis, you go from a state (D) or (E), but instead of waking up, you get stuck at state (C) before you're awake. No demonic attack, just your mind waking up before your body decides to.

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Anyway. Hope this helped a little bit. I know its not the best graph, but is a quick visual representation of the way you fall asleep, and where sleep paralysis usually occurs in that time frame.


[edit on 11/2/2009 by deadline527]

reply to post by old_god

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it's funny that you mention the time thing. SP normally happens to be at or just a little after 3AM. Is there something to this?

reply to post by morbidlyobtuse

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I must admit, the other day I had quite a scary encounter at 3:04 AM exactly that has never happened to me before. Basically I was laying in bed, about to go to sleep after the lady left for the night, and I just got the crazy feeling in my room. I cant explain it, wish I could. Needless to say, I ran the hell out of there like an Olympic track star.

It was probably the most frightening experience I can remember in my recent past.

Just wanted to add this because of the 3 AM thing. I also am quite good at knowing when I am dreaming so I can tell you I definitely wasn't.

As for your visitations at night morbid, if that was me I would pass it off as hypnogogic hallucinations when you are barely woken up from sleep and just before you fall back asleep. I've seen and heard some crazy things in them times. I've had my name yelled in my ear quite loudly that jumped me out of bed, felt like something touched my shoulder, and I have thought I've seen shadows but cannot prove it and they were also very fleeting.

Here is just a few things associated with Hypnogogia and what it entails. You may find some similarities. Although, since I am not you, only you know what you saw, and sometimes these mundane explanations just dont fit the bill. Hopefully some of these quotes may help you.

en.wikipedia.org...

Among the more commonly reported,[23][24] and more thoroughly researched, sensory features of hypnagogia are phosphenes which can manifest as seemingly random speckles, lines or geometrical patterns, including form constants, or as figurative (representational) images. They may be monochromatic or richly colored, still or moving, flat or three-dimensional (offering an impression of perspective). Imagery representing movement through tunnels of light is also reported. Individual images are typically fleeting and given to very rapid changes. They are said to differ from dreams proper in that hypnagogic imagery is usually static and lacking in narrative content,[25] although others understand the state rather as a gradual transition from hypnagogia to fragmentary dreams,[26] i.e. from simple ‘eigenlicht’ to whole imagined scenes. Hypnagogia can be induced with a Dreamachine, which uses a pulsing frequency of light close to alpha waves to create this effect. Descriptions of exceptionally vivid and elaborate hypnagogic visuals can be found in the work of Marie-Jean-Léon, Marquis d'Hervey de Saint Denys.

Humming, roaring, hissing, rushing and buzzing noises are frequent in conjunction with sleep paralysis (SP). This happens when the REM atonia sets in sooner than usual, before the person is fully asleep, or persists longer than usual, after the person has (in other respects) fully awoken.[30] SP is reportedly very frequent among narcoleptics. It occurs frequently in about 6% of the rest of the population, and occurs occasionally in 60%.[31] In surveys from Canada, China, England, Japan and Nigeria, 20 to 60% of individuals reported having experienced SP at least once in their lifetime.[32][33] The paralysis itself is frequently accompanied by additional phenomena. Typical examples include a feeling of being crushed or suffocated, electric ‘tingles’ or ‘vibrations’, imagined speech and other noises, the imagined presence of a visible or invisible entity, and sometimes intense emotion: fear or euphoria and orgasmic feelings.[34][35] SP has been proposed as an explanation for at least some alien abduction experiences and shadow people hauntings.[36]

Hypnagogic imagery is often auditory or has an auditory component. Like the visuals, hypnagogic sounds vary in intensity from faint impressions to loud noises, such as crashes and bangs (exploding head syndrome). People may imagine their own name called or a doorbell ringing. Snatches of imagined speech are common. While typically nonsensical and fragmented, these speech events can occasionally strike the individual as apt comments on – or summations of – their thoughts at the time. They often contain word play, neologisms and made-up names. Hypnagogic speech may manifest as the subject’s own ‘inner voice’, or as the voices of others: familiar people or strangers. More rarely, poetry or music is heard.

Originally posted by deadline527
reply to post by morbidlyobtuse

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I must admit, the other day I had quite a scary encounter at 3:04 AM exactly that has never happened to me before. Basically I was laying in bed, about to go to sleep after the lady left for the night, and I just got the crazy feeling in my room. I cant explain it, wish I could. Needless to say, I ran the hell out of there like an Olympic track star.

so what happened exactly?

reply to post by morbidlyobtuse

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Yeah and it also says the devil appears as an angel of light.

reply to post by EMPIRE

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yea, it says he can disguise himself as an angel of light, but I don't get how that's necessarily relevant

reply to post by morbidlyobtuse

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Because you're talking about "conspiring and working in dark shadows", yet the main "bad guy" is appearing as an angel of light and not conspiring and working in dark shadows, do you get it now? There is no limit to how a demon operates, they aren't confined to working at night and torturing people while they're sleep.

reply to post by EMPIRE

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no doubt that they can operate through a disguise of light, but all I'm saying is that in my particular case, there's definitely something there, it's menacing, frightening, and it's not God, so...

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