ADD - the next step of human evolution, page 3
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reply posted on 16-12-2005 @ 11:01 PM by the_individualist
A possibly fictional co-incidence based on hearsay does not make an argument.. however it is strange that you chose a high profile celebrity to highlight your point rather than utilising the wealth of medical data available on the disease that should validate your point.


I wasn't trying to make an argument or point, it was just a btw kind of thing, something to think about.

Dyspraxia.
"An individual affected by dyspraxia may have both fine and gross motor control difficulties, or only one of them. Gross motor control is related to whole limb/body movements. Fine motor control is related to hand/finger movements, the organs of speech and eye movements. Each individual will have a unique array of difficulties which are likely to affect many aspects of life." (Poustie, 1998).

You would do better in convincing us of your superior evolutionary status when you don't prove your own immaturity by poking fun at other people's disabilities.


msnevil never said he had dispraxia, he only told us he had ADHD and OCD. And I'm NOT trying to "prove I'm superior". Idk where you got that impression.


Perhaps you missed what I said earlier:
I have been searching

-as in researching
for the last twenty years

-a really, really long time.
for magic cures.

-actual effective treatments opposed to vague theories and armchair advice.
BTW. Yes I do eat well yet it has not cured my symptoms.

-thought I better make a pre-empted strike before someone who was completly ignorant of how much I know about psychiatric health [and myself] decides to tell me that it's something dietry even though I'm already on a specific diet.

-pre-empted strike failed and I am now irritated as someone who is completly ignorant of how much I know about psychiatric health has decided to repeat themselves inferring that I may not know what 'eating well' means and that I may not have known that pesticides, weedkillers, preservatives, heavy metals and other toxins may be bad to eat.

Perhaps it may be a good idea if I stopped eating lead paint chips as snacks between meals. You should never eat between meals.


I wasn't telling you your problem was dietary, I'm not trying to attack you here, I was just wondering about it. You're interpreting all of my "inferences" wrong. Sorry I doubted you here though, as you have twenty whole years.

It also could've been the various genetic disorders that have afflicted href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=13&k=my%20family" onmouseover="window.status=' href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=13&k=my%20family" onmouseover="window.status=' href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=13&k=my%20family" onmouseover="window.status='my family'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">my family'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">my family'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">my family for generations. Some toxins etc that I have absorbed over my life time [via food, air [especially], skin, medications and immunisations] may have hampered my development but they are not the underlying cause so would not have prevented what I have though not being exposed to these things may have decreased the severity of symptoms. There are many disorders that go hand in hand with allergies.. eg. someone can go on the 'asthma' diet [VA and E etc] and it may be very effective treating mild asthma but for chronic asthmatics to rely on diet exlusively would be suicidal. Healthy lifestyles are great and should be embraced.. but it isn't going to make everyone healthy [in the 'normal' context].
BTW. If you have a problem with my method of communicating.. perhaps you should be more accepting of the fact that other people may know more
about their conditions than you do.


For the last time, I'm not telling you what to do!!! I'm just theorizing here! Sorry you think so orderly and always want proof.

[edit on 16-12-2005 by the_individualist]

[edit on 16-12-2005 by the_individualist]



reply posted on 9-12-2007 @ 09:05 PM by Hevaess
I was diagnosed as ADD a week after I was tested and found to have a 144 IQ.

It's true that alot of us have a greater mental capacity than normal kids, and it is also true that we have trouble focusing all that on one subject at a time.

I won't let anyone try to convince me that my ADD is fictional or a mental illness(as my mother so lovingly put it).

I was one of those kids who were hooked up to computers and instructed to keep one of our brainwaves over a certain line.
Here

I am not a first stage ADD. My body has rejected every single form of "treatment" they invented for my abnormal thinking process. Not only did they not work, I became violently ill; headaches, stomach pains, vomiting. My immune system treated the medication like a virus, finally the doctors advised against trying to fix it.

I have noticed that each ADD has a certain unique talent. My talent is seeing patterns.

What is yours?

[edit on 9-12-2007 by Hevaess]


reply posted on 29-12-2007 @ 07:32 PM by cenasangel
reply to post by SkipShipman



This is simply not true and reserch proves that Autism and ADD/ADHD do exist and in some areas of America the rates of Autism are as high as 1in90 children are on the Autism spectrum so why would the Armish community be any different from any other group in America. Scondly it's not even proven that the MMR vaccine is to blame for the high rates of Autism and before you even bring Dr Andrew Wakefield's name into the issue know that this doctor has had his regerstration canceled in England. That's right his findings into the MMR vaccine were that dodgy and inconclusive that was the result.


reply posted on 3-11-2008 @ 02:38 PM by BeyondBelow
reply to post by Yarium



I think you are right on, I was diagnoses adhd, druged and regaurded as a hinderance untill high school. I rejected the drugs in 8th garde, and embraced my different tallens wich lead to reaching calc trig.3-4 by the end of my sophmore year, also I was destroying my writing clases and social science classes aswel. I trully do belive once you learn how to channel the much higher frequency of thinking you are far better in certain areas than individuals that are not add, adhd.
rocking back and forth or bouncing my leg when I do anything, static energy is what I allways called it. Also have you found it easier to do 5 things at once or one? When I was a young child the red flag for my parents was the way I would do straight info overload, for example if I wanted to read I would put on my head phones turn on the t.v. and crack a book. And at any given time I could tell you what I swas reading in depth, aswel as be able to tell you what was happening on the tv show and what the words to the music was silstening to were. Just thought I would share, and aside from the fact I dont slow down enought to correct my spelling and punctuation, I have allways tested between 135 and 142 IQ. Smaller brain or nor lol I seem to be doing fine


reply posted on 3-11-2008 @ 03:20 PM by Xeven
I have ADD and I also have an IQ of 143. I can read a book once and score in the 90's on any subject as long as I decide to focus and am left alone. I am always outside of the box when trying to improve work processes which usually ends up being ground breaking improvements.

My problem is multitasking. It is hard to do. I also have trouble following conversations between people if I am not focused or already knowledgeable of the subject. I lose concentration trying to listen and end up hearing my own thoughts of "something else" while people are talking. I lose my keys often and even my car on occasion =). I have a dozen things half started around my house, as I am easily distracted. If I am doing something I am not really into or enjoying, my mind strays to something more interesting so I end up leaving projects unfinished. Having a floating mind is harsh on social situations because we tune out what is being said around us, though we don't mean to. When I have eureka moments people look at me funny when I try and explain my ideas or thoughts. They say "I would have never thought of that", or outright dismiss my idea up to the point it is put into successful action beyond anyone's expectations.

When I focus on something it as if all the pieces are in my mind as puzzle pieces. I randomly look at one, moving to the next looking for inspiration on how to change that something for the better or discover how something works. Once I have examined all the pieces I assemble the interesting ones into a new creative thought. The problem here is that while I am doing that I cannot change thoughts and get right back to it. If I am interrupted I often will lose it and have to start over. I do this thinking at all times, if I am trying to solve a problem at work, so I will miss conversations during meetings or just while talking to others. I may come up with a great new idea but at the expense of not knowing what is going on around me. It is like a daydream but not. Sadly these thoughts come when they want to which distracts me from more mundane conversations around me.

The one strength of ADD is being better at focusing on one thing than normal people and being more creative while doing so. Our minds wonder into the abstract and often discover alternative ideas and theories that non ADD people would never think of. Creativity is a good thing in most cases.

I guess ADD can be good if you are a researcher, scientist, analyst etc... Your ability to focus may allow you to see between the lines where others might not.

Not sure if it is where we will evolve or not . My experience with various ADD meds is that they help me focus better and think faster. I really do not think they help me multitask any better though.

[edit on 3-11-2008 by Xeven]

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