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Originally posted by Kingalbrect79
thanks for the info AkashicWanderer....
No, i have no freakin clue what to do after my body is asleep.
I guess a few things i will have to ask as a basis...we all have to start somewhere right..
plz let me know if i'm buggin you too much..(i hate annoying people)
First off, how do i put my body to sleep, while maintaining conciousness.
I guess after that, is the next step related to lucid dreaming? or at that point will i have to try to "escape" so to speak.?
Why was i paralized for about 5 minutes, to which was very slow to recover?? was this due to the meditative state?
Originally posted by Kokasion
If it weren't for you, I'd have to Order a Ludic-Dream-Kit for 59.99 from some Google Acclaimed site....
ATS is like my Free, Astral Travel Agency 24 hour Troubleshooting Hotline. You guys are all great, even when you clash in beliefs. The broadness of it all just excites me. Hopefully I will be able to find an emtpy Cubicle somewhere at the Hotline. This is something that everyone should try to participate in.
Think about how cool it would be, if we could all succesfully Astral Project. Then all meet somewhere. Though I don't know the details of how the Astral Plain looks. Thankfully, we are all helping each other to induce OBE/AP's.
I had a question also, why is it that we wouldn't be able to see the Subjective Matter that another 'Projectionist' is manipulating?
It seems odd to me. Maybe it has to do with Subjective matter not connected to the objective matter, in a sense of visualization?
But I think it could be that we are taking the Visions for Granted, as we used to take dreams for granted.
Isn't AP only seeing the world through your subconscious? (Using the term 'World' loosely) Or seeing the 'Subconscious' world?
Couldn't you look at the subconscious mind of the other. And like how TheRiverGoddess talked to her friend with though.
Couldn't we portray ourself in thoughts?
I think we should work hard, to attain almost total control over Astral Projection, and Lucid Dreaming, and help others to do the same.
Originally posted by Yarium
Well, last night I tried again - and once again all I did was keep myself awake for a few hours. Checking here now in the morning, I find it interesting to hear some things.
First, yes, perhaps I'm just not relaxed enough.
Second, I am interested in this sleep deprivation thing. Three days without sleep... I've done three days without eating (though that was more to calm myself after a horrible event), but never three days without sleeping. Also, when you say meditate during that time, do you mean full-blown meditation, like literally doing nothing? That's pretty crazy and intense, I must say. I'll wait for an answer on that before attempting to do so.
On a side note, last night, as I felt like I was on the precipice again, I started to feel like there were 2 meat-hooks lodged in my fore-head, almost trying to pull my skin off. I also felt like I could turn my head without turning my head, but I'll say that was more of the "diziness" feeling (like when you'r sick and you feel the room is spinning) before I chalk that up to "getting close".
Thanks a lot for all the constructive input so far.
Originally posted by TeH PwNeR
im sorta bringin this back out of the dead, but ive tried to have an OBE, and i have the same issues as Yarium, Ex: staying awake and nothing happening. however I have had the feelings that my stomach is open and my astral bodys stomach is exposed, and when i open my eyes and move around that feeling is gone