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posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 08:57 PM
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Hi there

I recently got my scholar status, and plan to start a research project on the ATS Research forum, and look into the possibility of TK and other psychic abilities. There is another thread on this forum about super powers, while I wouldn't call them that, this is the kind of thing I'm going to be looking into...

This isn't a very academic project, it's more hands-on. If interested and meet the criteria below, you'll practice these abilities and their forms, in different ways, and take a serious approach to studying and testing it.

The goal of the project will be to find out whether or not it's possible to have these powers, and if we can use them, we'll study them and find out what we can.

There's only two criteria for being on this team.


  1. Good research and writing skills.
  2. Belief that you have these abilities, or are at least psychic and "open".


But there's no guarantee this will happen. Once I've gained several people for the team, the proposal for this project would have to be accepted by ADVSIOR.

Steve


[edit on 11/12/05 by SteveR]




posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 10:02 PM
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I can expect a lot of people who read this are like "Why study it? it does exist and we don't care if you believe us."

I'm a psion in training...haven't gotten to far though. I want to join a community to help and what not.

If you really hope for assistance in your project, then someone well learned in the skills would help you greatly. Problem is if they WANT to go public.



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 10:27 PM
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Originally posted by Karu Jyrai
I can expect a lot of people who read this are like "Why study it? it does exist and we don't care if you believe us."


True.. I expect that. I too beleive in this stuff... but in serious research opinions/beleifs should be put aside. I'd like to see some data on these abilities, and a better fuller understanding of them.

If we grouped together on this, we might find out alot more than we expect.



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 10:30 PM
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Why not try them yourself? I can't promise good results immediately. It takes time. But might as well right? I wouldn't be much help to you. My best job is spinning a peice of paper on a pin and I can't even do it well enough to prove its not a fluke.



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 11:00 PM
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Have you tried pyrokinesis? That's something I want to investigate alot.. because it affirms the idea that spiritual energy (if you will) can be changed into a different kind of energy, in this case heat/fire.

I know of some people who can light candles with their mind, and so on.



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 11:16 PM
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I would love to help with your research in any way that I can.



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 11:33 PM
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Of course I've tried pyrokinesis. I AM a pyro after all ^-^ Did horribly at it though. I need to work TK more first I think.



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 10:04 AM
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I have had problems with my brain activity since i was born my parents had to take me to londons sick kids hospital to test to see if i was mentaly handicapped because all i would do is scream and cry and freak out.it turned out that i had an extensive use of my brain at too early an age to function on a regular level.i was dubbed hyper and by the time i was in grade two i was put on ritalin even this did not help much.i am posting alot in the paranormal because i have studied much of my own brain and the connection between us and everything else i have certain abilities but they work differently than most expect.mind reading is not neccessarily a gift.it is horrible and scary.many times i will be overwhelmed with others thoughts and feelings.i have to avoid places with evil about for i feed of all energies i have studied many fields of magic and science i am here hopefully from now on so if you need any help i would be glad to...



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 10:06 AM
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I'd be willing to give it some deep and thorough research and hands-on experimentation. I've got exams next week, and then I don't have any college classes again until January. As long as I'm not working 8 hours a day, I'll have plenty of time
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I would be willing to put in at least an hour per day and keep a detailled log of my progress. I consider my research and writing skills above-par, and believe that anyone can tap into psychic powers with the right approach. Although I must say my experimentation with it thus far has been quite limited so I have had no personal results, and I have a bit of a pet peeve with the "psion" people (I'd consider myself more old-school in my approach towards psychic phenomenon).

I have taken part in tests and studies for the Boundary Institute, a fairly well-known scientific research organization on psychic phenomenon. But that was all about ESP (Card tests, remote viewing, etc). So I'm not sure how well it will transfer over to physical TK-type activities, but worth a shot.

So if you need a member, I'm up for it. Tell me how to sign up as a scholar and what you want me to do, and I'll be there =).

[edit on 12-12-2005 by Yarcofin]



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 02:10 PM
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Toraylin. I suggest trying to work on a technique commonly dubbed as "sheilding." It may do wonders for you.

And Yarcofin, what do you have against psions?



posted on Dec, 13 2005 @ 12:15 AM
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please tell me what this shielding is(every tool helps)



posted on Dec, 13 2005 @ 07:33 AM
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please tell me what this shielding is(every tool helps)


Shielding is a rather sketchy "psionic power" where you visualize energy around you and imagine putting up a shield, etc that is supposed to protect you against "psionic attacks".



And Yarcofin, what do you have against psions?


I didn't want to reply to this for fear that it would be overly harsh and offend someone, but here it goes:

All the discussion of "shielding" and "psi balls". A psion is typically (not all are, but most that I have seen fit this description), just a DBZ fan who thinks it's cool to act like the characters in the show. They didn't get turned onto investigating psychic phenomenon by reading or hearing about it, but inspired by an inaccurate and over-exaggerated anime show. They typically have poor grammar/spelling and act/talk in illogical ways that take away credibility from serious paranormal researchers (in my opinion).
Most people I have seen that call themselves psions get into it because they "think it would be cool to throw a psiball at somebody." I feel that they just simply lack ethics needed to come with such a strong gift. You shouldn't use such things to hurt other people, nor simply as little "party tricks" to impress your friends. If you want to appear to be magical, get a deck of cards and a good show-magic book
. The thing that gets to me the most is their idea that you can use more energy than your body actually has in it. Okay, they have methods for harnessing energy from the sun, etc. But I still don't think you can harness more energy than your body has in it, without dying in the process. And I also disagree that you should ever use the power to inflict any damage on another person, let alone use it to fight them, unless for extreme self-defense. They also have a weird way of mixing roleplaying with everyday life.
If it weren't for the following things above, I'd be calling myself a psion. But I can't respectfully do that with my opinion for them. Perhaps I have just had bad encounters with everyone out there that calls themselves a psion. I'm sure there are some good ones around too, though.



A word commonly used by DBZ fans, and too imaginary kids. However, it is also used a lot among D&D players. Another group of people is are the ki-[censored].
The difference between the DBZ-fans and the D&D-players, and ki-[censored] is that the ki-[censored] take psychic combat seriously.
Source: http//www.urbandictionary.com


Just my opinion though. I'm sure you think something similar about me
. Still be glad to work alongside them to research and experiment with this stuff, although if somebody posts something that I don't agree with, I'll be sure to question it
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[edit on 13-12-2005 by Yarcofin]



posted on Dec, 13 2005 @ 10:22 AM
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Well, IMHO, it's just a question of terms and words.

For example, considering all the "mages", or all those teenagers claiming to be witches or sorcerors just to catch some attention and curiosity... considering all of this, a serious Magick user should stop calling him/herself a Magick user? Or, to make another example, considering all the fake dentists around there, should a true dentist stop calling himself a dentist? No.

I like the definition of psion... i'm not calling myself a psion yet, since in my opinion it recalls a certain degree of expertise, and so far i'm just moving my first steps in this field... Should i be ready, tho, i wouldn't mind defining myself a psion. It's just a word, but it gives straight the idea. And this doesn't mean i'd go around screaming HADOUKEN or SONIC BOOM!!!


And who cares about all those DBZ kiddies... after all, they are also nice and amusing in some ways...


[edit on 13-12-2005 by Sparhawk]



posted on Dec, 13 2005 @ 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by Yarcofin
All the discussion of "shielding" and "psi balls". A psion is typically (not all are, but most that I have seen fit this description), just a DBZ fan who thinks it's cool to act like the characters in the show. They didn't get turned onto investigating psychic phenomenon by reading or hearing about it, but inspired by an inaccurate and over-exaggerated anime show. They typically have poor grammar/spelling and act/talk in illogical ways that take away credibility from serious paranormal researchers (in my opinion)...


You get posers, role players, rebels and extremists in every group. Those who claim such are as I call "fluff" or at very best dabblers, play with it while it's "cool" then vanish because it's too hard or no longer "in". I know it may sound harsh but I've met way too many people like that and frankly I consider them a waste of time, but generally it is bad to define a group by it's black sheep. Not to mention that "psion" is just a term for an idea. Words themselves have no meaning, but well that's my opinion.



posted on Dec, 14 2005 @ 02:53 PM
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Thanks for the replies guys. So far on the team we have BRCMontana, Yarcofin, Phalanx and myself. You guys should probably get acquainted with each other before we start. If any new guys want to hop in, now's the time to do it.

It seems to me that psionic power is something that, for most of us, comes after training. I've heard that a few hours of dedicated practice, to several days, is the range needed to see a simple result. Ofcourse for those that possess these abilities strongly, no training is really necessary.

So keeping that in mind.. this is how I suggest we structure the project.

Everyday, each of us spends an hour (if your schedule permits) to practice. I guess you could split that up into 3 x 20 minute sessions a day, or just one hour. I don't know which would be more effective.. but anyway, your choice.

Remember, the keys seem to be Willpower and Creative Visualization.

Since this is going to be a Level 2 project, that gives us around 2-3 weeks unless we want an extension. So every 2-3 days, we could post on our research thread about our findings. List any success you have, any feelings physical or mental, just any details at all pertaining to your practicing.

Hopefully in time we will all be getting some results, and then we can begin to test them in different ways. We can find out more about how they work, perhaps even gather some measureable data.

In order to post on the Research Forum, your gonna need to apply for "Scholar" status, from ADVISOR. Send him a private message, and he'll sort it out for you. I'll start our thread there soon if he accept this project.

Question for y'all.. do you reckon we should all concentrate on one ability at first, i.e. pyro... or should we each try a different one?



posted on Dec, 14 2005 @ 06:55 PM
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Alrighty I sent my U2U to ADVISOR to hopefully obtain a "Scholar" status.

Hello fellow team members, and everyone else interested in the project.

I feel that it would work best if each person concentrates on a single ability, at least for a week. That way they focus on building a single skill, rather than doing a mediocre job on multiple abilities. Whether we should all do the same thing or not, I'm not sure. I think that each person should probably choose what they feel they have the most potential ability for.

I'm a little bit unclear on what exactly we are looking for though. Do you want to only research psychic abilities like TK, or do you want to include other "less tangible' things like ESP?

Also, SteveR, are you going to give us certain techniques that we should try, or do you want us to all go out and research our own, and see what will work best for us? Either way, our procedure should be scientifically documented using the proper procedure, ie something like:introduction, hypothesis, materials used, step-by-step procedures, and conclusions, etc.

So we could look into a wide range of things classified as "psychic", such as telekinesis, remote viewing, ESP, astral projection, microkinesis (influencing the outcome of chance events such as rolling dice, etc), and the list goes on and on.

So if our project is going to last approximately three weeks, I say that we should get the most of it and each take on our three favourite topics. Each activity will be done each day for a week, and then you move onto the next one, etc. That way if one thing is a dud, the entire project isn't spent researching that single thing and ending up with no results.



posted on Dec, 14 2005 @ 07:54 PM
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Yarcofin, I really like the idea of trying a different technique for each of the 3 weeks, but maybe if you prove to have (or already have) strength in a particular area you could elect to focus on that ability for the duration of the project.

What do you think?



posted on Dec, 14 2005 @ 07:54 PM
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Parapsychology?

Here is a good place to find information about it:
www.world-mysteries.com...


Writing skill meh...a few grammatical errors here and there, but it could be readable.
Heck I'll Join...might as well attempt to tap into the other 90% of the brain capacity.



posted on Dec, 14 2005 @ 08:36 PM
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Welcome aboard Skyblue.



Originally posted by Yarcofin
I feel that it would work best if each person concentrates on a single ability, at least for a week. That way they focus on building a single skill, rather than doing a mediocre job on multiple abilities.


True, that makes sense. But if you want to work on more than one ability, I suggest we make the project longer, say 6 weeks. The reason for this is, one week of practicing an ability only amounts to 7 hours (unless you spend more than 1 hour a day.) 7 hours may not be enough time to develop and test/study an ability.


Whether we should all do the same thing or not, I'm not sure. I think that each person should probably choose what they feel they have the most potential ability for.


Yeah, you guys have the choice.


I'm a little bit unclear on what exactly we are looking for though. Do you want to only research psychic abilities like TK, or do you want to include other "less tangible' things like ESP?


I should of been clear about this earlier but the research is gonna be into Psychokinesis. Here's a definition from that website:

"Psychokinesis : Also called PK; direct mental interaction with physical objects, animate or inanimate."

So that includes abilities like Cryokinesis, Pyrokinesis, Telekinesis (movement)... and so on. The first two can be practiced on a candle, I assume.


Our procedure should be scientifically documented using the proper procedure, ie something like:introduction, hypothesis, materials used, step-by-step procedures, and conclusions, etc.


Absolutely, we need to take a serious approach to this.



posted on Dec, 14 2005 @ 08:41 PM
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Maybe this instruction guideline for telekinesis might be a base for "telekinetic" experiments:
www.uyta.com...

It's in interesting site, I never got through it, but it did have alot of insightful information. It has three books...so yea but its not long..and its free. I find telekinesis very interesting, would be awesome if i could learn it.

I wanna learn how to heal, so if anyone have any good tutorial or reference you should tell me.



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