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NEWS: Racial Riots Erupt In Sydney Australia

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posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 08:22 AM
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A survey on one of Austrlia's leading website has a survey ...


" DO YOU THINK AUSTRALIA HAS A RACE PROBLEM ? "

Currently YES VOTE"S 78,010 NO VOTES 24,703

ninemsn.com.au...


So approx 3 out of 4 surveyed agree we have a race problem, and its time the Government addressed it, in my humble opinion they need to start with a massive blitz on these Middle Eastern gangs.




posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by NumberCruncher
You cannot possibly say with certainty that they are ALL Australian.

Yeah I'm sure the tourists would've jumped in on all the fun.


And i bet if you went and actually asked the Lebanese if they are Australian you would be shocked how many would NOT identify with being "Australian" even if born in Australia.

You forgot "So there".
I could bet that you would prefer not to ask them yourself as misguided biggoted assumptions usually turn out to be just that. If you haven't got anything intelligent to add and are only intent on trying to promote racism.. picket someone else so I'm not obligated to read it. I can't get that ten seconds back.



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 08:36 AM
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I know this is a topic that is emotional but let's keep it civil folks. OK?



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 08:37 AM
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I havnt promoted racism, ive told the truth but i bet you just cant handle the truth.

And while where at it stop wasting my time with your Apologist attitude cause that is never going to fix this problem, its part of the reason we are where we are today.



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 08:43 AM
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Disgusting actions on the parts of the Australians, mobbing 'ferners'. Australian has a long history of horrible ethnic relations, brutally treating the aboriginals in country and denying non-whites access to the country via ethnic immigration quotas. Perhaps this lynching and mobbing shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

[edit on 12-12-2005 by Nygdan]



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by Nygdan
Disgusting actions on the parts of the Australians, mobbing 'ferners'. Australian has a long history of horrible ethnic relations, brutally treating the aboriginals in country and denying non-whites access to the country via ethnic immigration quotas. Perhaps this lynching and mobbing shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

[edit on 12-12-2005 by Nygdan]



This is roughly true, but a bygone era, tell me where your from and i bet i could bring up even more horrific stuff in your countrys history huh?



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 08:56 AM
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How does any of that excuse the modern actions? People who run around in mobs beating up immigrants are pigs, and whats more, considering the history of places like australia, they should know better.



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 09:02 AM
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Originally posted by Nygdan
How does any of that excuse the modern actions? People who run around in mobs beating up immigrants are pigs, and whats more, considering the history of places like australia, they should know better.


Agreed picking on ANYONE because of their origin is wrong, yet you couldn't help but use this tragedy to bash Australia. Meh I'm done with you your not worth my time, nor is anyone else that makes generalizations about any nationality based on the actions of a few.



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 09:03 AM
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Originally posted by Nygdan
People who run around in mobs beating up immigrants are pigs...


They were retaliating against immigrants who run around in mobs attacking Australians. Their actions were justified as it was about taking back their streets from the immigrant gangs.

[edit on 12-12-2005 by AceOfBase]



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 09:07 AM
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Originally posted by Nygdan
How does any of that excuse the modern actions? People who run around in mobs beating up immigrants are pigs, and whats more, considering the history of places like australia, they should know better.


I agree. And im not excusing modern actions, you a trying to smear the reputation of the peaceful civilized society of Australia by bringing up actions of past generations.

But i also say that people who Gang rape Girls for being Australian, plot terrorist attacks, Import Narcotics,use violence for extortion, Beat up life guards on peaceful beaches etc etc etc etc etc ..... are VERMIN and have no place on earth let alone in Australia.



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 09:09 AM
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Originally posted by mad scientist

Originally posted by riley
The problem with that defence is that they were ALL Australians.


Very True, however the media doesn't portray it that way and the middle eastern youths involved don't seem to see themselves as Aussies.

The media kept saying [paraphrased] 'aussies' vs lebonese.. [even the PM said it] yet I know many 'non whites' that call themselves aussie. Certainly some of the ones involved [antagonists not passerbys getting attacked] may see themselves that way but the thing with gangs is.. they only accept people like themselves and the rival gangs are the ones that have opposing cultures so it's no surprise that they share the same opinions. I will make one generalisation.. gangs seem to be full of people who like to walk the streets looking for fights with other gangs that share this same caveman hobby. Unfortuantly.. people watch the news and assume that they are a snapshot of an entire race or culture which is ridiculous.

Come to think of it why aren't the ' white ' Australians labelled as Anglo Saxon Australians like the Middle Eastern youths are labelled. Therein IMO lies the problem.

The first colonies were Anglo Saxon, most of them were rejected from england and they were the ones that developed the country [wiping out some natives along the way]. There was also a 'white australia' policy in effect for quite a while [I think]. Not sure on the specifics on that though.

[edit on 12-12-2005 by riley]



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 09:13 AM
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Play nice people. The motto of this site is deny ignorance, not deny tolerance.

I'm sad to see this happen in my country, this is mindless mob violence, plain and simple. Who's cause is futhered? Who feel's safer? Who are the "official" spokespeople for either side? Are their any?

The people involved didn't partake in a patriotic defence of the country, and it's liberties, regardless of whether they thought they were doing so. They participated in a melee that was stupid, overwrought and poorly thought out (by participants and police).

The truth, huh? Is that the absolute truth, or the truth as seen thru one's particular social filters?



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 09:17 AM
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Pardon me for not reading this whole thread, or responding directly to what I did read. This whole 'argument' makes me a bit ill. It's just stupid.

This has nothing to do with whether the people are Aussies or what the French would do or how Americans would react! They're all just people. When you're born in Australia, you don't get an extra sprinkling of racist gene. The French don't take extra 'stand up for your country' vitamins.

If you cannot see that all of this fighting and rioting around the world is a direct result of the subtle brainwashing that's going on because of this 'War on Terror', than I have no hope for you at all.

In the past 5 years, we have been propagandized to believe that Muslims and Middle-Easterners are the bad guys and a threat to our way of life. It's working. People are buying the propaganda and it's sickening.

This has happened in France, it has happened in Australia and it will happen other places, as long as we slurp up what the NWO is feeding us.



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by AceOfBase

Originally posted by Nygdan
People who run around in mobs beating up immigrants are pigs...


They were retaliating against immigrants who run around in mobs attacking Australians. Their actions were justified as it was about taking back their streets from the immigrant gangs.

[edit on 12-12-2005 by AceOfBase]


So Ace, let me get this straight, if the original Aboriginee population would take to the streets, drunk, attacking random white poeple for oppressing them and taking their country from them, you would also justify that ? i hope You see my point....



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 09:24 AM
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Originally posted by AceOfBase

Originally posted by Nygdan
People who run around in mobs beating up immigrants are pigs...


They were retaliating against immigrants who run around in mobs attacking Australians. Their actions were justified as it was about taking back their streets from the immigrant gangs.

The justifed reaction to the lifeguards getting beat up was for the criminals to be charged, thrown in jail and publically shamed. That happened.. but beating up someone for walking down the street just for having darker [or lighter] skin is NEVER justifiable.. though of course it is in the minds of the ones that do it.



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by riley
The first colonies were Anglo Saxon, most of them were rejected from england and they were the ones that developed the country [wiping out some natives along the way]. There was also a 'white australia' policy in effect for quite a while [I think]. Not sure on the specifics on that though.


the White Australia policy was specifically targetted at Asians. This was just simply fear of being a tiny Anglo Saxon Country at the bottom of Asia, with Europeans within cooee



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by XyZeR
So Ace, let me get this straight, if the original Aboriginee population would take to the streets, drunk, attacking random white poeple for oppressing them and taking their country from them, you would also justify that ? i hope You see my point....


Hmm they did in Redfern, Sydney earlier this year. They weren't attacking random white people, but they were attacking the police in what was one of Sydney's worse riots until now.



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by riley
The justifed reaction to the lifeguards getting beat up was for the criminals to be charged, thrown in jail and publically shamed. That happened.. but beating up someone for walking down the street just for having darker [or lighter] skin is NEVER justifiable.. though of course it is in the minds of the ones that do it.


The thing is the attack of the lifeguards was just a catalyst for gang related trouble, which if you believe some locals has been going on for 20 years. At the very least things have been happening their between these two groups for at least several years.
So to say this is all the result of the lifeguard bashing is really only brushing the tip of the iceberg.



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 09:39 AM
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When the Law/Politicans doesn't protect, the citizens,
than the citizens will become the law.

Peace and War
Crustas



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by XyZeR

Originally posted by AceOfBase

Originally posted by Nygdan
People who run around in mobs beating up immigrants are pigs...


They were retaliating against immigrants who run around in mobs attacking Australians. Their actions were justified as it was about taking back their streets from the immigrant gangs.

[edit on 12-12-2005 by AceOfBase]


So Ace, let me get this straight, if the original Aboriginee population would take to the streets, drunk, attacking random white poeple for oppressing them and taking their country from them, you would also justify that ? i hope You see my point....


The only point i see you making is a futile attempt to smear Australians and be an apologist for the causes of these riots.

And on the subject of the Aboriginals, the are now treated more than equal by the Australian government.
Just imagine if Australia was colonized by another race other than the British, lets Say, French, Chinese, Americans, Indonesians ..... i bet they would of been treated alot worse.

Now this stuff is 200+ year old history, if you feel a need to cast blame on current generations for past crimes or injustices you could atleast let us know where your from so we can play the same game eh?



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