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NEWS: Racial Riots Erupt In Sydney Australia

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posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by Nventual
I'm confused. How come the Australians (white) are smashing cars and shop windows that belong to white Australians?


It's the Leb's doing this, copycat France style i guess.




posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by NumberCruncher

It's the Leb's doing this, copycat France style i guess.


let's get this straight right NOW -

It is not just the "Lebs"


Bugden said he did not have descriptions of those involved in Monday night's violence, but said the rampage, which spilled over into the early hours of Tuesday morning, "obviously stems from the last 24 to 48 hours."


Quit making the news what U want it to be, if U want to report things from the view U see them from go work for FOX or CNN. And don't tell me this is where U are getting your coverage from either

If U are watching the footage we are here IN Australia then U will see that it is not just the Lebs but all of them.

Funny that also, being so concerned about pointing the finger at the Lebanese when the Aussie's are pelting partially-full glass beer bottles at policemen's heads!




[edit on 12-12-2005 by ImJaded]



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 10:09 PM
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I hope they'll all be happy with these "new laws" hmmm wonder what these ones will be.

Police to get tough new laws


It's understood a special cabinet meeting was to be held this afternoon and parliament recalled by the end of the week to give police tougher powers to combat the spiralling ethnic violence.


Hope they got what they wanted :shk:

From the rest of the decent youth of Australia, thanks for not a damn thing.



[edit on 12-12-2005 by ImJaded]



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 11:14 PM
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This act of racial violence in Australia cheapens its mutli-cultural image Australia portrays. Only the educated human would find a moral alternative to the event that took place.

For the responsible one who took effort from his/her day to organize and lable this as AUSSIE PRIDE DAY only weakens his/her existence in society as the “Vandalizer” will always be forgotten – the victim will forever be remembered.

I am a Lebanese-Canadian and viewing this from a third perspective it disgusts me. I do not favor any side; I would never generalize a collection of people nor inflict violence to resolve an issue no matter the form of intricacy because only the primitive era would carry out such gestures. Regardless where the error stands, one should correct it in a civilized manner.

You must take in consideration how the media failed to recognize the Australian culture on this day, focusing on conventional stereotypes associated to riots, racial violence as well as drunk of control adolescents from ages 15 and up. One should be fully conscious and acknowledge their actions.

There is excessive footage of rural looking individuals, drunk out of their minds and tossing beer from hand to beer and chanting hideous self made vocabulary. There is also a congested amount of teenagers who you can tell took part in this not knowing the outcome of this situation. There was no sense of consistency nor was there a significant objective to this sickening day “ we are here to reclaim our BEACH” in which 5000 drunk minimal characters came out to retaliate against Lebanese people on the beach, throwing objects, beer bottles and cans on law officials as well as paramedics.

I can assure you the reaction from a third perspective (being another country reacting to the situation in Australia) only diminishes the multi-cultural system “The Australia we know today” is built on.

I should not generalize Australia for the insertion of the minimal characters that took part of this racial violence, rebelling against the Lebanese people. One must understand as well as forecast the outcome of this issue, this will create more and more tension between the Aussie TEENS, meaning the non-educated, influenced by drugs/booze and other races not only Lebanese (Europeans, Asians & Africans)



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 11:24 PM
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These "LEB" gangs have been doing this for the last 15 years and
getting away with it.........



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 11:32 PM
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Originally posted by ImJaded
Do U not think this is racism ?

Who named what "bringing attention to inequality" ?


no, its about getting tired of attacks on your people and finally reacting to it.

quite a few have, france riots for example

[edit on 12-12-2005 by namehere]



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 11:36 PM
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Originally posted by BlackThought
So I guess you can name me some ethnic minorities in key positions in Australia, You can tell me why 2.2% of the population makes up 20% of the population in prison.


There are numerous people in bothe Federal and State government of ethnic background. You were talking about aboriginals before, well Senator Aden Rodgeway is aboriginal.



You can tell me what Wog means you can tell me why Amnesty International said what it said. And not just them but the US state department in its own 2004 report. If you come with facts then I would be more receptive but name-calling that’s useless.


Well WOG actually stands for Western Oriental Gentleman.

Amnesty International bashes every country, nothing new there. If they actually compared countries to each other instead of to some lofy nonbtainable ideal, thenn Australia would be far ahead of almost every country.

LIke I said, you know nothing about Australia, readng one bias report doesn't change that



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 11:45 PM
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Originally posted by ImJaded

Originally posted by AceOfBase

Originally posted by Nventual
I'm confused. How come the Australians (white) are smashing cars and shop windows that belong to white Australians?


They aren't.
Those were the middle easterners who were doing that.


Uhh AceOfBase, we have seen them doing it. Both of them alike.


NO, The MIddle Eastern gangs are the ones solely destroying property and assualting people. Seems all they needed was an excuse to rampage.



posted on Dec, 13 2005 @ 12:15 AM
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Originally posted by mad scientist

NO, The MIddle Eastern gangs are the ones solely destroying property and assualting people. Seems all they needed was an excuse to rampage.


yeah, all they needed was a drunken mob of angry racists huh

*sigh*

STILL taking sides ? blah, have fun with the rest of this thread



posted on Dec, 13 2005 @ 12:41 AM
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Originally posted by ImJaded
yeah, all they needed was a drunken mob of angry racists huh

*sigh*

STILL taking sides ? blah, have fun with the rest of this thread




You maybe able to justify ( as people here are ) what the Arab gangs did on Sunday as retaliation. Monday night though was completely different, wouldn't you agree. Not only are the Arab gangs still attacking ' white ' people but they are also assaulting Asians and other groups. Seems all they needed was an excuse to get incredibly violent.
If it happens again tonight, then they will ave no sympathy from the wider Sydney and Australian communities.

[edit on 13-12-2005 by mad scientist]



posted on Dec, 13 2005 @ 01:22 AM
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First, I admitted I was 'miffed' but not angry. Like many other people, my eyes find it hard to read bold type on a screen so I stress points in caps and there are alot of points that need stressing.

Now I strongly suggest anyone wishing to share an informed opinion, first read Numbercruncher's link on page 6 of this thread first.

If what some of you are saying, is after reading the whole 10 pages, then I can only believe you are stirring for your own agenda.

Why should I not complain about MY government when they have clearly created the unrest by their multiple, racial tention causing policies, in all areas of society?

Unlike most of you posting, I am trying to point out the facts of how and why this happened, which is Governmentally LEAD, social manipulation, for the purpose of further restricting our freedoms and worse.

Far worse than 5000 people gathering in protest, is the over 20 years of being unable to get justice, for countless, major, violent, ETHNICLY MOTIVATED crimes, from THE PROPER CHANNELS, that motivated them to do it.

Those 15 y.o. kids, you mentioned with such distain, have spent their whole lives JUSTIFIABLY in fear, through experience, of M.E GANGS, who the law won't touch due to the "policies" of "not offending" Mid. Easterners and Moslems.

My heart breaks for the majority of Moslem's and Mid. Easterners who did come here to escape the violence of their homelands because our Government is using Crimminal Gangs from among their ethnicity as pawns in a war against ALL it's citizens.

It's when those of Mid Eastern backgrounds rage against and blame all other Australians, for the policies of the Government and actions of a tiny number of neo-nazi morons, that those Mid.Easterners lose more and more of those sympathetic to them, fan the flames and actually inspire more disenfranchised "whites" to join neo-nazi yobs.

How many times do the majority of ALL Australians have to declare we only have a problem with trouble makers, of any group, before you stop being racist and demand, with your fellow countrymen, that ALL troublemakers feel the full force of law, reguardless of ethnicity?

Stop narrowly focusing blame and shame on "the whites" for what the Government has done to ALL of us, as that is ignorant at best and ultimately RACIST.

Prove you are NOT a RACIST and admit disgust for what Organized Lebenese Crime Gangs have done and continue to get away with, due to Government policies.

I don't in any way advocate or condone vigilante behaviour but that doesn't make me deaf and blind to the CAUSE others justify it by.

The CAUSE must be addressed, no matter how much it "offends" the sensabilities of ANY group.

"IT'S A CONSPIRACY I TELLS YA!" AGAINST ALL OF US, WORLD WIDE!



posted on Dec, 13 2005 @ 02:55 AM
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There must be an understanding between both before there is a solution. And that my friends, is too logical.



edit - my ranting


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posted on Dec, 13 2005 @ 07:51 AM
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“Just in from the news 20 years ago gangs were introduced to the Australian society. Apparently before that time no gang had ever been seen on the streets of any Australian city. Stocks fell, River flowed backwards, women grew facial hair, and the koalas became pink started doing the electric slide.”

When a system is born from subduing other’s culture for the “main culture. And you are born from the main culture. The Media or people in power more than likely blame the victim for what happens. I know there were gangs before the Lebanese got there. I know there are racist skinheads in the crowd of those wholesome white youth that just want to live peacefully until the brown people terrorized them in a siege onslaught for 20 years. Society changes 500 years ago Aboriginals lived their as the dominate culture then while folks came in and made the island into a big jail and slaughtered close to a million people in less the 20 years and Walla white culture is dominate.

My point is when you are born and can fully see someone that looks like you as the leader of where you are born or where you live. You can have a better mindset to be yourself and think a can become the leader if I try hard enough. But being born into a society where you are marginalized from birth because of skin, RELIGION, CULTURE, or Class then there is a problem. There is some there calling you a subordinate name like wog, ni**a, or Lebs. You cannot continually beat up on someone as a non-Australian because they do not have a European background. And a token number of positions given to ethnic people will not stop them from wanting more.

“TO BE EQUAL”

I know most racist white people (there are different degrees of Racism) and there are many many of you out there!!

First do not know what Racist means (Look it up in the dictionary)
Second will not look in the mirror because they themselves put into the same situation briefly will lash out like the people you are claiming to be violent. As the young angry whites are doing now.
Third they are usually more violent in the response because the state backs them up with no jail time, guns, and benefit of the doubt. Lets see what the jail sentences are for these riots compared to “normal” crime.

BTW The dark and Arab people are not going to rape and ravage your daughters, wives, and sisters. That is another common tactic they use to put fear into people.

The last time is seen things like this was in South Africa When the white establishment did not want to give up its total power. The thing that I do notice about human nature if you leave them alone they will leave you alone. Let the Muslim worship and honor their customs, let the Aussie drink do what ever you do. But don’t meet up in the street beating on your chest saying, “go back home” Someone might say the same thing to you. A short time ago white people did not occupy Australia. Remember that when you look at someone saying they do not belong there.

Pease I know it is uncomfortable but true.


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posted on Dec, 13 2005 @ 08:20 AM
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You're missing the point, Blackthoughts (deliberately?). 20 years ago the police were stopped (by deliberate Government Policy changes) from applying the law of the land to these gangs.

All other gangs were brought under control by "non-racist" policing; applying the same law to all.

It is racist to refuse to use the full force of the law against any group just so as not to hurt their feelings.

It is racist to claim any group is too "sensative" to pay the same penalties for crime as everyone else.

It is racist to hold any group to lower standard of behaviour than everyone else.

I could go on, but racist Moslems, Mid Easterners, blacks etc., really don't want to hear the truth from someone who's family is made up of most colours, cast and religions in the world, but those who aren't racist, feel the same about the "leb" gang problem as every other decent Australian.





[edit on 13-12-2005 by suzy ryan]



posted on Dec, 13 2005 @ 09:23 AM
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Originally posted by BlackThought
Society changes 500 years ago Aboriginals lived their as the dominate culture then while folks came in and made the island into a big jail and slaughtered close to a million people in less the 20 years and Walla white culture is dominate.


More blatant BS, why do you make things up ? A million aborigines were not slaughtered in less than 20 years.



The thing that I do notice about human nature if you leave them alone they will leave you alone. Let the Muslim worship and honor their customs, let the Aussie drink do what ever you do. But don’t meet up in the street beating on your chest saying, “go back home” Someone might say the same thing to you.


LMAO, you obviously know very little about human nature
There will always be people who push and those who get pushed.

Are you Australian, I suspect that you're not, because you seem very uninformed abut the culture of my country.

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posted on Dec, 13 2005 @ 09:23 AM
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The first thing to do is to honor them by saying their whole name. That is disrespectful to sub-categorize them against their will. Second of all there is restraint probably because they were too heavy handed in the first place. Some groups have up to 18 times more of a change to go to jail. And I do not believe it is because they are always guilty. Third to be equal is to be equal no one should have the right to “take” anything back it belongs to all.

Racist means to be in power or control and refuse someone or group access.

Oppressed people cannot be racist. They can be prejudice but not racist. Whites get off all the time from serving hard time in prison for extenuating circumstance. And have the right to be innocent before proven guilty. Please look at the emotion behind your concern and see if it is vengeance or justice. People should not suffer anymore than they have on either side of the situation.

Read your history not "His-Story" And see what happened to these people like the indans in the US There was a government push to dystroy thier society.


Racism is based off of prejudice in your own definition.

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posted on Dec, 13 2005 @ 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by BlackThought
Oppressed people cannot be racist. They can be prejudice but not racist.


Prejudice based on race is racism.
Look at the definition of racism.



thefreedictionary

1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.



posted on Dec, 13 2005 @ 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by BlackThought
Oppressed people cannot be racist. They can be prejudice but not racist. Whites get off all the time from serving hard time in prison for extenuating circumstance. And have the right to be innocent before proven guilty. Please look at the emotion behind your concern and see if it is vengeance or justice. People should not suffer anymore than they have on either side of the situation.


Firstly as AceOfBase said, you need to learn the definition of racism

Secondly, you are making judgements on the Australian judicial system which you know nothing about except some Amnesty International report. You don't see the day to day running of the judicial system. ALL people are treated equally here, if you break the law you pay the price. ' Whites ' ( seeing you like to use divisive terminology ) don't get treated any differently than an aboriginal. Stats might be higher for certain ethnic groups because there is a higher proportion of crime within them


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posted on Dec, 13 2005 @ 09:41 AM
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Stats might be higher for certain ethnic groups because there is a higher proportion of crime within them

What does that mean? How would that sound if someone had that attitude towards you? that was Real revealing. And once again prejudice is the the definition of racism it describes what it was talking about.

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posted on Dec, 13 2005 @ 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by BlackThought
My point is when you are born and can fully see someone that looks like you as the leader of where you are born or where you live. You can have a better mindset to be yourself and think a can become the leader if I try hard enough. But being born into a society where you are marginalized from birth because of skin, RELIGION, CULTURE, or Class then there is a problem.


Non whites can't vote here now?! And I thought it was compulsary for everyone to vote here in this multicultual society.

There is some there calling you a subordinate name like wog, ni**a, or Lebs. You cannot continually beat up on someone as a non-Australian because they do not have a European background. And a token number of positions given to ethnic people will not stop them from wanting more.

A 'token number'? You asked for proof that we have non-caucasion politians and now you've dimissed the point by putting a racist motive for it because it obviously didn't suit your opinions. They got VOTED in.. they didn't get 'put' their for photo ops. I'm so surprised that the race card has popped up yet again to defend the rights of a very few [hopefully] to be racist. How surprising. I noticed you left 'skip' and 'white trash' off the list.. thats used feequently here. I have been persecuted all my life for just being white.. don't tell me it doesn't happen.

I am somewhat disapointed with some of the sentiments that have been shown on this issue.. and am getting tired of people insisting that ALL/most whites are racist.. just saying that is racist and is probably against forum guidelines [or at least should be]. I ask that people please stop making derogatory generalisations about mine and other races as it is extreamily offensive and disrespectful.

[edit on 13-12-2005 by riley]



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