Proof of God

is there really proof God exists?

Just wanna know

NO

of course, there isn't proof that there isn't a god...

Originally posted by scienceguy94
is there really proof God exists?

Just wanna know

Yes. But if you find this proof, it will always be your own.

There is proof of a god. thats me im a god. Im smarter better looking than you.

but if you are looking for proof of the king of the universe, the holy one. then there is not proof.

Did you not see this thread only 5 spaces down in the same forum?

www.belowtopsecret.com...

we are god;
everyone is a god..

its called FAITH for a reason, you cannot prove it...

Originally posted by scienceguy94
is there really proof God exists?

Just wanna know

Define "God," please. Otherwise I can't answer.

one who created man and the earth.

Originally posted by scienceguy94
one who created man and the earth.

What do you mean by "one"? What do you mean by "created"?

The universe is one, and it is the origin of man and the earth, so if that meets your definition then there is plenty of evidence for the existence of the universe, i.e., of God.

I'm not just being facetious here. My experience has been that atheists who call for proof of God's existence have a concept of God in their heads that trivializes the concept, they genuinely believe that religious people believe in that trivialized and absurd concept of God, and they are challenging for proof of THAT, not of what religious people actually believe -- because they don't UNDERSTAND what religious people actually believe.

No communication is possible under those circumstances. What religious people actually believe in is the validity and reality of certain experiences which have changed their lives. "God," along with all other religious doctrines, is in effect a model or theory explaining those experiences. There may be some problems with those models or theories. But as long as you fail to acknowledge the experiences underlying them -- and show that you have clue one what they're all about -- nobody is going to listen to you, because it will be abundantly clear that you don't know what you're talking about.

So -- let's just acknowledge that there is no proof of the existence of the trivialized, absurd, kindergarten-level notion of God you have in your head, and wrongly think other people believe in. Nor, in fact, do I think that kindergarten creation does exist.

Having dealt with that, can we move on to something more serious?