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NEWS: Toledo Police Ready for Neo-Nazi Group's Return

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posted on Dec, 10 2005 @ 01:25 PM
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Members of a neo-Nazi group are planning a rally in Toledo, Ohio this afternoon to protest their treatment during a previous rally in October. Two months ago the group's planned march sparked a four-hour riot that ended with businesses burned and looted, and bricks thrown at police and an ambulance driver. Anti-racist groups are also planing a counterdemonstration Saturday to shout down the white supremacists.
 



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Hundreds of police officers were stationed through the downtown area in freezing weather Saturday to keep a neo-Nazi rally under control and avoid a repeat of a riot in October.

"We're well prepared for it," Sheriff James Telb said before the afternoon rally.

Members of the National Socialist Movement planned a Saturday afternoon demonstration on the steps of City Hall. Two months ago, their planned march set off a four-hour riot in which businesses were burned and looted and bricks were thrown at police and an ambulance driver.

In October, the neo-Nazis said they wanted to protest gangs and rising crime in a Toledo neighborhood. This time, they say they want to protest how police and the city handled the October confrontation.




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Fortunately the groups protesting the radicals have stated they will maintain peaceful demostrations from a distance as long as the radicals stay out of the mixed racial areas where Octobers protest took place.

Weather may also be a helping factor here, so lets hope no violence breaks out.




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posted on Dec, 10 2005 @ 01:32 PM
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Hmm, I never would have guessed that Toledo, Ohio was a Nazi hotbed.

They have the right to gather and speak, no matter how offensive their speech might be, but if they start acting violent again, they need to be all rounded up and arrested.



posted on Dec, 10 2005 @ 01:35 PM
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I guess it's a matter of terminology, but it has always confused me why the National Socialist Movement, a Nazi organization has the term "socialist" in it - I thought that "socialism" was an antithesis of nazism or fascism. I guess I need to read up on my poli-sci.



posted on Dec, 10 2005 @ 01:49 PM
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It looks like Police are not taking any chances they have already made 7 arrests.



Several arrests made in advance of Rally

Toledo Police have, however, arrested seven people in the 1100 block of Sylvania Ave. in advance of today's preplanned Nazi Rally in Downtown Toledo.

Police say those arrested are charged with violating their temporary restraining order to march. Authorities also say that several of them have been charged with carrying concealed weapons and having spray paint.


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Concealed Weapons


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posted on Dec, 10 2005 @ 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by djohnsto77
Hmm, I never would have guessed that Toledo, Ohio was a Nazi hotbed.

They have the right to gather and speak, no matter how offensive their speech might be, but if they start acting violent again, they need to be all rounded up and arrested.


they didn`t riot first time round but you want to round them up??



posted on Dec, 10 2005 @ 03:03 PM
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It's all over now, and all the arrests were of anti-Nazi counterprotesters -- apparently none of the Nazis were arrested.



posted on Dec, 10 2005 @ 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by intelgurl
I guess it's a matter of terminology, but it has always confused me why the National Socialist Movement, a Nazi organization has the term "socialist" in it - I thought that "socialism" was an antithesis of nazism or fascism. I guess I need to read up on my poli-sci.


No you don't they need to read up on it.



posted on Dec, 10 2005 @ 07:13 PM
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Originally posted by intelgurl
I guess it's a matter of terminology, but it has always confused me why the National Socialist Movement, a Nazi organization has the term "socialist" in it - I thought that "socialism" was an antithesis of nazism or fascism.

The best way that I like to think of it is as, rather than there beign a political line with left and right, to have a political circle. Go on one direction and its leftish and in the opposite its rightist, but eventually these things meet each other on the other end.

Nazism and Fascism make good useage of socialist ideas and practices. In either, the State is whats supreme and the state is what it providing for the people and regulating them and the centrally planned economy. Nazism in germany back then was rabidly anti-communist, but in the end the two camps wanted the same stuff. Whereas the communists put the public as a class in control of the property and means of production, the nazis put the state, which after all is the people together, in control of property and the economy. THis is why sometimes nazi propaganda against england and america can sound like communist rants, screeds about the 'corporations' and the 'monied powers'.

ALso, "fascism" is derived from the word 'fasces', which was a symbol of the power of the state and an italian word for 'peasant' or 'field worker' or some such. So the system was 'for the people' in its intent. Very socialist in fact. Nationalism on its own is just saying that the nation itself needs attention from the citizenry and government. So National Socialist is definitlely an interseting term, as you note.




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