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Electric signals can be transmitted at least four times faster than the speed of light using only basic equipment that would be found in virtually any college science department.
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One central tenet of special relativity theory is that light speed is the greatest speed at which energy, information, signals etc. can be transmitted. In many physics-related internet newsgroups, claims have appeared that recent tunneling experiments show this assumption to be wrong, and that information can indeed be transmitted by speeds faster than that of light - the most prominent example of "information" being a Mozart symphony, having been transmitted with 4.7 times the speed of light.
So, has special relativity been disproved, now that FTL speeds have been measured? The first problem with this naive conclusion is that, while in special relativity neither information nor energy are allowed to be transmitted faster than light, but that certain velocities in connection with the phenomena of wave transmission may well excede light speed. For instance, the phase velocity of a wave or the group velocity of a wave packet are not in principle restricted below light speed. The speed connected with wave phenomena that, according to special relativity, must never exceed light speed, is the front velocity of the wave or wave packet, which roughly can be seen as the speed of the first little stirring that tells an observer "Hey, there's a wave coming".
Originally posted by siddharthsma
First of all what is meant by tunneling ?
And does anyone know how this crystal is able to accelerate light ?
Is there any reverse refraction during the experiment ?
and this can be proven mathematically, and experiments so far agree with this.
Originally posted by DragonsDemesne
I'm not sure who Frosty was referring that question to, but the difference between Group and Phase velocity is rather important:
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Originally posted by sardion2000
and this can be proven mathematically, and experiments so far agree with this.
With all due respect "they" tried to say the same thing about the speed of sound... I still think we don't know jack about the universe and in my mind anything is still possible IMO.
Hell Mathmeticians and Physists even said the same thing about the 100 MPH barrier back in the 19th century...
[edit on 10-12-2005 by sardion2000]
So now you want to ignore Special Relativity?
It was a general reference. There have been some experiments performed which suggest using lasers passing through certain atoms can produce a 'group velocity' about 300 times faster than light.
Originally posted by sardion2000
Not at all, I just don't take it as the gospel truth. I reconize that in order for unification to take place some parts of Relativity(or QM or BOTH) are gonna have to go or at least be modified.
It is the gospel of fact for many people.
Dr. Hau, with Dr. Steve E. Harris of Stanford University and two of Dr. Hau's Harvard students, reported the results of their experiment in which a beam of laser light was slowed to the astonishingly low speed of 38 miles an hour. (By comparison, light in a vacuum travels about 186,000 miles per second.) Dr. Hau's laboratory at the Rowland Institute for Science in Cambridge (where she conducts research with the help of her graduate and post-doctoral students from Harvard) ) is one of a handful of organizations studying the interactions of lasers with a very peculiar kind of matter called a Bose-Einstein condensate. It was by shining precisely tuned lasers on such a condensate, or cloud, of ultra-cold sodium atoms that Dr. Hau and her team reduced the speed of a light beam to a pace slower than her bicycle.
"Interestingly, even though it is physically possible to send waves at faster than the speed of light, you cannot send any information at faster than c, and this can be proven mathematically, and experiments so far agree with this."
You know light travels a bit slower in air, because its magnetic field is resisted right ?
You bet it does, exactly right.
Light travels at c in a vacuum, in the crystal it travels faster than c.
This suggests light speed depends on the medium through which light is travelling right ?
Now the reason I asked about refraction taking place in the crystal is, if it did, it would suggest that the crystal in one way is less than nothing ! or that a vacuum is something ! rather than our idea that it is nothing. Because it means that the vacuum is resisting the magnetic field of light, surely, the vacuum must have something in it that resists the magnetic field.