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10 Scientific Reasons why HIV can not cause AIDS


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reply posted on 23-1-2006 @ 06:04 PM by Nygdan



Originally posted by StellarX
He has a council who advises him on the issue so one has to wonder if his insane or just brave enough to admit the truth.

Gonna go with 'insane' on that one. If he is 'brave', then he'd inject himself with the HIV virus.


South Africa does not have a Aids problem as much as we have the general poverty problem.

South Africa is undergoing an AIDS explosion. Its going to destroy that country, especially if the so-called 'super aids' variant appears there.

There is apparently a large problem with newborns getting AIDS from unifected mothers in S.Africa too, its thought to be resulting from improperly sterilized needles. So that's giving the new generation a double whammy, setting up a set of them that are infected from birth, already, by virtue of the fact that they're in a place that couldnt' properly sterilize their needles, in a low economic sectory, not getting the best medication to treat the disease, living amoung the unifected population that seems to also be picking up the disease and spreading it rapidly...



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reply posted on 24-1-2006 @ 11:59 AM by LazarusTheLong

Bump for Zed...

Zed,
You hinted at a real conspiracy in your post...

about false negatives...

My question is regarding the safety of our blood supply
is donated blood safe, or is the test, not as sure as we are told?



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reply posted on 24-1-2006 @ 12:15 PM by Griff


Anyone know how many 'false' positives or negatives there really are? I know that the initial test is not as accurate until you go to the doctor and get your tcell count and viral load and all. Actually, the people who conduct free anonymous tests will tell you to go to your doctor to get a more comprehensive test done to be totally sure. So, I think they would use the more comprehensive tests on the blood supply (at least I would hope they do).



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reply posted on 24-1-2006 @ 12:41 PM by LazarusTheLong


That is the point...
the more accurate tests, all are accompanied by a questionaire...

My question is when blood is given, people lie...
so can they go back and get these blood donations to answer the questionaire?
or do they assume that anyone donating blood tells the truth, and give a false negative...

the gist is this... why bother with a questionaire, if they dont use that to help make the test results more accurate?

and if they do help make the test results more accurate, then the blood supply is NOT SAFE, due to people lieing...



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reply posted on 24-1-2006 @ 01:44 PM by Griff


I think you might be right. The questionaire is used to filter out suspicious blood and have it tested. What about the people who lie? Does anyone work with blood donations that would know the answer to this? I think it's a very good question.



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reply posted on 24-1-2006 @ 03:42 PM by I_s_i_s



Originally posted by twitchy
One thing I found rather interesting was this...


HIV needs a chemically induced process to reactivate.


I wonder speficly what chemical process this is refering to ...*snip*



Yes a reactivation process is necesary since its is in its latent state and nonresponsive to antiretroviral therapies. In order to find an effective way to eradicate the virus you need to reactivate it and then try to inhibit its funtions. Its not an easy cookie. They use cytokines and chemical agents to reactivate HIV. These agents are common in a lot of viral/bacterial studies.



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reply posted on 29-1-2006 @ 05:18 AM by Kool Aide Sipper


A large amount of the blood donated is given to people who die anyway.



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reply posted on 29-1-2006 @ 05:32 AM by Zaphod58


That's why so many people create their own blood supply before surgery anymore. I used to let them give my blood out when I donated (which was every chance they had to suck me dry since I'm O+), but I know a lot of people that donate, and tell them to save it just for them in case they need surgery.



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