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HIV needs a chemically induced process to reactivate.
1) HIV is neutralized by antibody immunity.
When a person tests "positive" to HIV, it means they carry antibodies to the virus. Which means that they have immunity.
2) HIV does not kill the T cells it infects.
HIV can only kill T cells under rare laboratory conditions. In fact, HIV researchers use T cells to grow the virus because T cells live quite compatibly with HIV.
3) HIV does not infect enough T cells to cause AIDS.
Sub note: The recent invention of "viral load" testing is an attempt to explain away the fact that almost no sign of HIV can be found by standard measurements. Viral load tests do not measure viable virus and have not been approved by the FDA to diagnose HIV infection.
4) HIV has no AIDS causing gene.
HIV behaves no differently than any of these others. If none of these other retroviruses cause AIDS, why should HIV? And vice versa, if HIV causes AIDS, why don't all the rest? So there is no genetic reason why HIV would cause AIDS.
5) There is no such thing as a "slow virus".
HIV is inactive, then is said to cause 30 different diseases 10 years later. None of which are specific to HIV itself.
6) HIV is not a new virus, so it could not cause a new epidemic.
Farr's Law asserts that new infections spread exponentially through the population. HIV has been reported at more or less 1 million infected in the USA each year since they had a test for it in 1984. So it cannot be a new virus.
Originally posted by StellarX
...but since aids does not seem to be a problem in the West one has to wonder if it has anything to do with sex or transmission by blood...
Originally posted by FLYIN HIGH
... You would think by now that after all the Billions invested on the backs of the little man we would have more to show for the bang. Instead, we have nothing more than a money-pit with a never ending bottom.
Originally posted by ZeddicusZulZorander
Actually, I will tell you...there is something FAR BIGGER than the areas that most people seem to want to THINK the HIV/AID conspiracy lies.
Yes there is a conspiracy, but it's really in the testing process and the reporting of false negatives.
Nobody ever seem to look at this...
Imagine, if you are recovering from malaria or organ transplant or have high levels of antibodies or have just had tetanus vaccination or Hepatitis B or a recent viral infection or flu and you went for an HIV test. There is a very high probability that you would be test positive! People in the tropics, especially Africa have a relatively high incidence of malaria and is it a coincidence that HIV tests “reveal” a high incidence of seropositive groups in Africa ? And even if you are otherwise healthy but because of malnutrition and/or a relatively weak antioxidant defense mechanism, your CD4 cell count is low, the Anthony Fauci medical dogma requires that you take toxic AZT!
Originally posted by Bripe Klmun
"Not a problem in the West?" What? AIDS is a global disease; by the time it was first recognized in the early 1980s, HIV had already spread to nearly every continent.
It has killed people of all races and classes, from the economically flourishing gay neighborhoods of San Francisco and New York to the poorest slums in Africa, Asia, Latin America, and the Caribbean.
The CDC believes that in every country of the world - including the West - each and every person with HIV has on average infected one other person within a few months.
The time it takes for one to infect two to infect four to infect eight to infect sixteen and so on is called the 'doubling time'. It is also estimated that AIDS has already killed over half a million Americans
- that's close to the number killed in ten Vietnam wars - and more Americans become infected every day. And that is just in the US alone.
And you really don't think that is a problem?
But look, I have no intent to derail the thread...I originally intended to point out that using anything from the rather notorious HEAL organization is extremely dubious...their "Scientific reasons" are often the laughing stock of, well, everyone. Except the innocent people who buy into their garbage and fail to seek the proper treatment.
The reason AIDS has taken such a hold in Africa and parts of Asia is because these regions suffer from stifling political and economic oppression.
Leading public health experts are unanimous that prevention is of paramount importance to combat AIDS.
But until recently, President Mbeki refused to acknowledge that South Africa even had an AIDS problem, a factor that contributed to the advance of the disease in that country
By contrast, the government of Thailand acknowledged AIDS as a problem early and encouraged discussion and education, bringing infection rates down rapidly.
Yet recently the Thai government has oppressed intravenous drug users; police killed more than 2000 in 2003 and thousands more were imprisoned. The consequence: drug use was driven further underground and open discussion of the need to use sterile needles was made impossible. As a result, HIV infection rates are now soaring among drug users. Coincidence? I don't think so.
Originally posted by wang
Another question for people who have AIDS, or know someone who has AIDS. Are they still giving out AZT to AIDS patients?