I really don't know what all the fuss is about.
Regarding the zoom:
Once again, some of the zoom was conducted by Rick, and some of it was conducted post-production to highlight various
aspects. It's like some of you have never seen a video before. You can tell from the difference in pixel ratio and clarity, from the smoothness of
the post-production zoom, and from focal length lens distortion when camera-zoom is used. But you don't even have to be aware of the specifics of
these differences in order to pick it up - it's intuitive and your eyes and brain should register it straight away if you've ever used a camera, an
imaging editing program, played a video game, or watched a movie in your life. My grandmother could pick it through her thick bifocals if she was
alive. Sometimes I wonder... But even if you're not as observant as Grandmother Peace, the footage is shown first for you unedited, and then shown
again immediately after
with the production zoom added for your viewing pleasure. But if you can't pick it up with just your intuition, then
go to the 00:05:20 mark in the video and watch the chopper go over the top at normal zoom. Once the chopper has passed, listen to the knock and watch
the shake as Rick's hand bumps the camera and he camera-zooms in on the North tower. Notice the shaky zoom and the relative clarity of the image.
This is camera zoom, folks. Then go to the 00:19:20 mark and watch the exact same footage
but with production-zoom added so that you can see
the flash on the chopper closer. Notice the zoom is smooth and the pixel clarity is terrible. This is post-production zoom.
Regarding the production quality:
How the hell is that relevant? So the video was made on a low budget by people that don't have the financial
resources of CBS or CNN. This has no bearing on the content, whatsoever
. Maybe they should have gotten Steven Spielberg and Paramount Pictures
to do it, then that would have added credibility. War of the Worlds and Tom Cruise certainly have me convinced Martians exist.
Regarding the debris trajectories:
I agree the trajectory angles are not positive. The important thing is not whether the trajectory angles are
positive, level, or slightly negative. The important thing is the impulse required to send massive chunks of debris weighing thousands of tonnes along
huge, horizontal trajectories
. Debris from a gravity-driven collapse should fall down alongside the building in pretty much the same direction
as gravity, with only a certain degree of lateral impulse generated by 'pancaking' floors. Watch these videos of the collapse and you can see huge
chunks of debris being forcibly ejected horizontally over the top of the other falling debris.
The chunk of debris which landed on the Winter Garden weighs in the vicinity of 3500Kg (7700lbs) and it was flung 180m (600ft) away on a horizontal
trajectory. I've calculated the energy required to accomplish this feet in the past and it is mind-boggling. Now whether or not the energy of the
falling cap would be sufficient to do this is debatable, until you add in the pulverization of the concrete, the snapping of the steel beam and
spandrel connections, the expansion of the dust cloud, the crushing of the core, etc, etc...there's simply not enough energy available to do all that
work, most especially in the time frame of 10-12 seconds, without another energy source other than gravitational potential energy being inputed into
But whether the debris ejection trajectory angles were positive or not is minor, if not irrelevant, and is no
justification for certain folks
to prance and mince around the halls, inferring with nasty sarcasm that everyone who doesn't agree with them is retarded, and claiming that they have
debunked everything in the footage because of one, single point of contention. The trajectories, the free fall of WTC7, the pyroclastic flow have all
been done to death on ATS and in analyses of myriad other footage that has been around on the Internet for 4+ years already. The important thing about
this footage, and what was the focus of 80% of the post-production video, is the pre-collapse explosion sounds
; which vindicates all of the
eye-witness reports that we have seen and heard. The attempts to discredit those sounds by focusing on unassociated, peripheral minutiae is extremely
telling. And when I see people state, "The entire footage is bunk because they got the trajectories wrong", it once again becomes clear how
things are for TPTB. A little psychological trick and everyone nods their head with glazed-over eyes. Dubya mumbles and
stutters, "Let us not tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories", and suddenly usually rational and intelligent people's stomachs are turning and
they're foaming at the mouth, rabidly insulting those who attempt to re-examine and advocate for an independent investigation into the official story
- a story which has more holes in it than a piece of Swiss cheese on a firing range.
I'm sorry about the tone of this post, mild as it is by comparison, but the attitude of DJ and AgentSmith in this thread has already set that tone.
If that's how it's going to be, then so be it...We retards may not be as smart as some childhood geniuses in this thread, but we can still play
[edit on 2005-12-13 by wecomeinpeace]