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Originally posted by Submersible
What's the difference between the Bible and the Q'ran the way they have been interpreted for us today?
One of them can be used to wipe your butt with, the other one can be used to blow your nose or your body to pieces with!
The number 666 is considered a mystical and holy number. 6 represents the six directions (up, down, north, south, east, west). Six is considered God's number (see Names of God in Judaism) since it is the numeric value of Vav. It also refers to creation, since the world was created in 6 days.
Additionally 666 is the numerical value of: "ועתה יגדל-נא כח אדני" ("Ata yigdal na koach Ado-nai", Now, let the power of my Lord grow.) (Numbers 14:17). This was Moshe's prayer invoking Divine Mercy on behalf of the Jewish People.
Take a look at history, at past and present civilizations and see the devastating influences they had on man’s development. There are three. The Roman Empire, Nazi Germany and United States.
The book also proposes an unorthodox explanation for the enigmatic Number of the Beast (numerology) by proposing a misinterpretation: The orbital period of Planet X or Marduk (planet) was 3661 years; and this number was written as a "three wedges in a row" in Mesopotamian sexagesimal mathematics. The sign for number 1 was used three times for 3600 (Shar), 60 (Ges) and 1 (As) respectively which made 3661 in total. And the cuneiform sign for "1" was very much alike the Hebrew letter "Waw" or "Vav", which had "6" as numerical value. As Eldem puts the matter in his book, Hebrew priests apparently adopted the "secret number" of Marduk and misinterpreted the sign as "666", or, "three Vav's". Because Marduk was the enemy's god, this number eventually became the "mark for Devil's Servant", and later "Anti-Christ"s sign in Christianity.
Originally posted by ElOne
Take a look at history, at past and present civilizations and see the devastating influences they had on man’s development. There are three. The Roman Empire, Nazi Germany and United States. You say you are “learned” in your assertions. As it says in verse 18 “This calls for wisdom…” show me a little on YOUR part. Look at the “human number” as it applies to these civilizations. Im really curious just how much you do know, or don’t know, as the case may be. Im not talking about Bible stuff here. Im talking about bonifide “history”. If there is one book written on these, there are 10,000. At this time in our “discussion I would like to know that I am conversing with someone that is in fact “intelligent”. And not some humanoid subspecies that parades around as having a valid, working thought process. Afterall even science can teach a monkey to type “yes but” on a computer keyboard.
Dr. Eric Berne, in his book “The Games People Play”. Devoted an entire chapter to the YES BUT game. www.ericberne.com...
He is one of “your” scientists a psychiatrist. And by the way, this book is about mental disorders that people have that inhibit them from conversing and relating to “other” human beings
Originally posted by spamandham
Originally posted by Graystar
I think your confusing those who have a real relationship with Jesus and those who use there faith for political gain
You asked why people want to debunk Jesus, and I answered it. How is that considered confusion about a "relationship" you have with Jesus?
I did not claim that all Christians are incapable of separating religion and politics, although my limited experience does suggest most are.
quote: Originally posted by cavscout
Yes, it does. Not an urban myth. It is my understanding that in order to manufacture or import anything for sale in the US, you must have a UPC code involved; it is the law. When you pull things out of your cupboard and they don’t match up, you are looking at tracking codes used by individual companies, not UPC labels.
Right now, I am looking at my Diet Coke. It does not have the three sixes HANGING DOWN on the bar code. What does this mean? It means that the box it was sent to the store in MUST HAVE THE 666 ON IT.
What then is the smaller code that is on the actual bottle? Just a way of keeping track of it in the factory/warehouse/store.
Just check up on the law there, buddy. Anything that is manufactured for sale by a corporation (e.g. - not stuff at yard sales or swap meets) and sold in a retail store must have UPC code on it, and the UPC code will ALWAYS have a six hanging down in the beginning, middle, and end.
Originally posted by xxblackoctoberxx
Originally posted by Produkt
So which god is the one true god I should be attributing miracles too? How would you define a miracle once the one true god is known? Are you sure the one true god isn't something no one on this planet hasn't even concieved yet? Are you even sure there even is a god?
So, Saint4God, Mytym, Thecrystalsword and/or thebluesoldier...
What is your answer to the question above? Don't say it's irrelevant because it is completely relevant to me. Make sure to not just answer the 'are you sure there even is a god' part but also the 'which god is the one true god'.
please let me know if I can clarify any points.
a verifiable and reliable source as described in the written word in The Holy Book (Bible). A miracle is something that goes against the normal flow of physics, biology, psychology, or any other -ology that is beneficial and traceable back to God.