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posted on Dec, 7 2005 @ 10:19 PM
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today I was informed that My five year old little girl will be takeng part in a holiday show put on by the three kindergarten class at her school. I nearly flipped out when I heard that she would have to learn two kwanzaa songs and the word imani "faith in man".

So where do I star. How about with the letter that I am sending to school tommorow!!

December 11, 2005


Dear Mrs. Shields,

Today we were informed of an upcoming celebration event in which Kayla would be required to learn a few songs and a word relating to the “African” holiday Kwanzaa. I have placed the word African in quotes because it is in fact not an African festival but an American made one as stated by its creator Ron Everett a.k.a. Dr. Maulana Karenga.

Enclosed you will find factual information regarding Kwanzaa’s origins and definitions of popular “holiday words.” Most notable is the information with respect to the good doctors 10 year prison sentence for torturing two black females in the ‘70’s.

We consider ourselves very tolerant and caring parents. But, in this instance, we cannot simply stand by and watch a softer more politically correct version of a very racially hateful and divisive, so called festival, be perpetrated on a group of very accepting and absorbent five year olds.

We have no problem with Kayla learning about other cultures at all, so long as it’s factual. This “festival” however, has little or nothing at all to do with African culture and more with racial separation and the hatred of Jews and whites as noted in Dr Karenga’s book Kawaida Theory.

If the truth was known about Kwanzaa we are sure you would receive more requests like this from other caring parents. We therefore respectfully ask you to opt Kayla out of any participation in the preparation of any Kwanzaa celebration, as it will only provide an unreal and distorted version of its true meaning. We do not tolerate people who use derogatory names to describe black people nor will we tolerate Karenga’s prostitution of this reversed racism and hateful holiday upon us or our children.

We look forward to discussing this further with you at the conference. At this time we have not received that appointment date.


Kind Regards,


Cc: Principal Todd Green


And there you Have it folks. Let the chips fall where they may even if its on me. the clay has hardened into steel now. I for one would rather die a terrible death than to live in this alter reality that people are trying to create where we substitue lies for truth. These are truely the days when people call good evil and evil good. All on board say, "I"


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posted on Dec, 7 2005 @ 10:24 PM
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"i."

let us know what kind of response you get from the school...should be interesting.



posted on Dec, 7 2005 @ 10:25 PM
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Very interesting indeed, I always had wonder where the Kwanaa came from, because we in my Island have a town that historically have the descendants of African slaves and their celebrations are totally different than what I have seen going on in American.

So I ask a professor of history about it, and she told me that probably the descendants of my Island are more closer to their roots, while here it has become more commercialized and over stated.

By the way she is a black American professor of history.

thanks for the information I guess I just learned something new today.



posted on Dec, 7 2005 @ 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by snafu7700
"i."

let us know what kind of response you get from the school...should be interesting.



Thank you and I certainly will. My wife is so stressed out over this because she knows that I won't back down!



posted on Dec, 7 2005 @ 10:28 PM
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I always wondered about Kwanzaa because i am originally from South Africa and no such thing exists over there. You remind me of my one political science professor. His kid had to do something on Columbus so he made him do the truthful version, it didn't sit too well with the school. I'm glad you are taking a stand on this, kick their ass.



posted on Dec, 7 2005 @ 10:30 PM
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I would advize everyone reading this thread to do a coursory read on Kwanzza to get a better understanding of its origns-1966 and of the creators background or should i say racists/torturor's back ground!try this for starters
Kwanzaa

Be warned the truth hurts

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posted on Dec, 7 2005 @ 10:32 PM
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Originally posted by NinjaCodeMonkey
I always wondered about Kwanzaa because i am originally from South Africa and no such thing exists over there. You remind me of my one political science professor. His kid had to do something on Columbus so he made him do the truthful version, it didn't sit too well with the school. I'm glad you are taking a stand on this, kick their ass.



thankyou Brother!!!lol



posted on Dec, 7 2005 @ 10:50 PM
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Dude, you stole my thread idea


I'm so glad though because you really have a stake in this since your daughter is being exposed to this crap.

God forbid that they teach the words of Jesus in school or even mention Christmas, but it's fine to indoctrinate our children into a made up holiday invented by an ex-con which really, in the end, celebrates hate.

Here's something interesting from the kwanzaa site itself:



The Red, or the blood, stands as the top of all things. We lost our land through blood; and we cannot gain it except through blood. We must redeem our lives through the blood. Without the shedding of blood there can be no redemption of this race.

Kwanzaa Information Center


Pretty violent sounding, huh?

The funny thing these PC people who want everyone to celebrate kwanzaa seem to not realize is, is that that's totally against the true meaning of kwanzaa. According to its creator, kwanzaa is meant only for black Americans and to allow others to celebrate it would dilute its meaning.

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posted on Dec, 7 2005 @ 10:52 PM
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I will admit I don't know much about it but I googled it and found out that apparently there are some African Americans that are completely against it.




Plus, we‘ll talk to a black preacher who believes Kwanzaa is racist scam, founded by, quote, “a Marxist ex-con, who served four years in prison for torturing two women.” Again, that‘s a quote.






CARLSON: Welcome back. Each year, millions of black Americans observe Kwanzaa, holiday that celebrates the black community and culture. My next guest, though, says Kwanzaa is, quote, “a racist holiday from hell.” The Reverend Jesse Lee Peterson is the founder and president of BOND, a brotherhood organization of a new destiny. He‘s also the author of “Scam: How the Black Leadership Exploits Black America.”






PETERSON: In 1966, Ron Karenga started or founded Kwanzaa. And I have to tell you, there‘s no such thing as Kwanzaa. You can go up and down the coast of Africa, and you‘re not going to find Kwanzaa.


Here is the link.

Like I said I do not know much about it, but apparently it isn't even African.


_____________________________________________________________
Be Cool
K_OS



posted on Dec, 7 2005 @ 10:56 PM
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Oh I forgot to add socialist/communist to the list of what's wrong with kwanzaa. The ex-con creator was also a socialist and it's clear just looking at the supposed pillars of the holiday.



posted on Dec, 7 2005 @ 10:57 PM
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P.S. The part of the transcript where it is discussed is about half way down.

_______________________________________________________________
Be Cool
K_OS



posted on Dec, 7 2005 @ 11:09 PM
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Well I never looked down on Kwanzaa because it is openly celebrated and respected by the African American community here in Harris County where 5 million people live. It's always mentioned in the news media this time of year. The local TV channels always wish everyone a Happy Kwanzaa, and it's always played up on the nightly local news as a cool gig.

This is all news to me. If it really is like you say then the local media in Houston, Texas should be informed as to the meaning of this. Funny, I ALWAYS thought it was cultural thing. I never really looked close at Kwanzaa because I Always considered it something respectful.



posted on Dec, 7 2005 @ 11:14 PM
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There is simply no such thing as "the traditional african hodiday called kwanzaa". It was manufactured by the political correctness crowd to give african-americans a "holiday" of their own.



posted on Dec, 7 2005 @ 11:16 PM
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I wish I could give you a big pat on the back. Great job! I only hope that someday when I have children of my own, that I'll have 1/10 of the testicular fortitude which you displayed in that letter!

Please keep us posted on the school's response. My only concern is that your daughter isn't harrassed or teased by any of the other school children for being the only one who isn't taking part in the "Kwanzaa" songs. However far you choose to take this, make sure you don't do it at the expense of your young daughter's treatment from her classmates.



posted on Dec, 7 2005 @ 11:54 PM
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"i",

I fully agree...i would say more but i'd just get upset. You did the right thing by sending that letter to your school, no child should be forced to sing a song of hate & lies.

-- Boat



posted on Dec, 8 2005 @ 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by Rasputin13
I wish I could give you a big pat on the back. Great job! I only hope that someday when I have children of my own, that I'll have 1/10 of the testicular fortitude which you displayed in that letter!

Please keep us posted on the school's response. My only concern is that your daughter isn't harrassed or teased by any of the other school children for being the only one who isn't taking part in the "Kwanzaa" songs. However far you choose to take this, make sure you don't do it at the expense of your young daughter's treatment from her classmates.


Wow dude thanks Believe me though I 'm doing everything to protect the feelings of my daugter she is a super kid.

But I would rather be trown down a sliding board made out of razor blades and land in a pool of viniger than to have my kids indoctrinated with this absolute garbage. Its high time that we Americans what ever ethnic background, stand up for the truth and stop taking this crap lying down in the interest of peace and unity. I for one will not be unified with a bogus fraud like karenga

those who have ears- "let them hear!"

I wrote this letter on the 11 of dec it goes in tommorow on the 12 New Jersey time

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posted on Dec, 8 2005 @ 01:20 AM
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I

This insanity needs to end!

You got my WATS vote.



posted on Dec, 8 2005 @ 01:38 AM
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While I agree completely with the letter and want to give you a huge pat on the back for standing up against this, my only question is how you wrote the letter on the 11th, if today is the 7th?


Sorry, but if I say much about "Kwanzaa" I'm just gonna end up pissed off.



posted on Dec, 8 2005 @ 01:48 AM
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Originally posted by Zaphod58
While I agree completely with the letter and want to give you a huge pat on the back for standing up against this, my only question is how you wrote the letter on the 11th, if today is the 7th?


Sorry, but if I say much about "Kwanzaa" I'm just gonna end up pissed off.


I noticed the date thing too, since by Bday is the 12th.

And yeah, Kwanzaa is a complete joke. I don't know a single person who celebrates it, not a single one. And I know a LOT of black fams...



posted on Dec, 8 2005 @ 02:09 AM
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I went to a church for a while that was interracial. The african-american presence was pretty torn up about this holiday. One of the teachers wanted to go over the symbolism during the children's sermon.

I was pretty shocked when the complaints were from other african-americans. I read up on it, so none of the stuff is particularly shocking to me. Though still deplorable.

They went ahead and let the teacher talk about it, because it was, for her, a phenomenon of pride an unity and whatnot. I think the whites and hispanics just watched it like it was a national geographic special. A lot of the African=american leadership was still pretty resentful of the whole topic.

I totally empathize with not wanting your kid to act it out. I wouldn't be surprised if a muslim, jew, or buddhist didn't want their kids playing wise men and shepherds in a Christmas play. I would be embarrassed if their kids were FORCED TO PERFORM my holiday.

Learning about it is one thing. Acting it out is another.

Some people don't have to taste the soup; they can tell from reading the recipe that they won't like what's being served to them.

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