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posted on Dec, 6 2005 @ 04:56 PM
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Years ago someone told me that if you played Led Zeppelin's Stairway to Heaven song backwards that you could make out "satanic messages". It is not my opinion that Led Zeppelin and the other artists here were given some kind of evil power to make these backwards sounds have a satanic message. And, no, I did not create this to show the evils of Rock and Roll. Instead I made this flash piece for two reasons: 1. I was new to flash and wanted to be better at it and 2. The reverse files sound cool.

The way I made these sound clips was first to get a copy of the original versions. For example I took my copy of Stairway to Heaven (I tried it once with a live version but I couldn't hear the message clearly) then opened it in a sound editing program (I used Windows Sound Recorder - but you can use the open source software Audacity), and reverse it. Crop to the place with back-masking sounds. That's it.


What do you people think of this i find it very creepy myself i just wanted your opinions on this.

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posted on Dec, 6 2005 @ 05:08 PM
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Weird yes not sure about werid lol, Ive heard of this before especially in relation to some Heavy metal or thrash bands, cant be bothered to check it myself but would be interesting if anyone here has ever played back similair songs with the hidden message?

Good site spooky really, The Britney one is really quite funny and true but shes not my type lol


Elf.

blushes whilst edits.

[edit on 6-12-2005 by MischeviousElf]



posted on Dec, 6 2005 @ 05:14 PM
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Its been discussed before. Check out the subliminal message research project.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

There is no hidden message in Stairway to Heaven. Plain and simple.

1- If you didnt read what people thought the "satanic" lyrics said, you probably would not pick out the same sentence. Your mind hears what it wants to. In this case, you read what someone thinks it says, and then you make the connection.

2-It does not work with the live versions of the song. Why? Because the backwards lyrics will be different depending on how the song is sung, how long he holds notes etc.

3-This is NOT a backmask. There are not two audio tracks with one being the backwards verses. Its all one recording.


There are cases of hidden backmash tracks in songs, but this is NOT one of them.

By the way, when stairway to heaven was recorded, there was only 1 vocal take by robert plant. 1.



posted on Dec, 6 2005 @ 06:03 PM
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Wierd yes not sure about werid lol


Be sure you can spell weird yourself, before you criticise


The Led Zepplin thing is not new. Even my mom knew about it when SHE was a kid. There are plenty of other songs as well. Just search backwards messages, backmasking, etc.



posted on Dec, 6 2005 @ 06:15 PM
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There is also a Beatles track which when played backwards supposedly states "Paul is Dead" and in the late 60's led to a mass hysteria in the music press of the day. I can't remember all of it now but if I remember correctly it also had something to do with the cover of the "Abbey Road" album where the Beatles are walking across the level crossing and Paul was barefoot.



posted on Dec, 6 2005 @ 06:20 PM
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I have to quote the one and only Bill Hicks here:

"You can hear messages from Satan when you play Judas Priest songs in reverse? If you're sitting around your house playing your records backwards,..... you ARE Satan. Look no further. Do you know if you play New Kids on The Block albums backwards they sound better?"

Very interesting site though!


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posted on Dec, 6 2005 @ 07:50 PM
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lol i could probably point you to 100 bands or so that play their satanic messages forward ;P


Here is a little start.. only names

too lazy to find links


100 Demons
Abazagorath
Abigor
Andras
Angel Corpse
Antaeus
Anwyl
Apocalyptic Raids
Arch Enemy
Archgoat
Arckanum
Arkangel
Armagedda
Ars Occulta
Ashen Light
Asphyx
Astaroth
Astarte
Astrofaes
At Dawn They Sleep
At The Gates
Ataraxie
At-Mortem
Aura
Aurora Borealis
Avatar
Ave Sathanas
Avernus
Averse Sefira
Avrigus
Azagatel
Azaghal
Azathon
Azaxul
Azhubham Haani
Azmodan




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posted on Dec, 6 2005 @ 09:34 PM
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This subject seems to pop up every so often.
Here's some old threads about it, and Zeppelin:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Dec, 6 2005 @ 11:01 PM
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I never heard of that, but has anyone heard of the story of how if you play "Dark Side of The Moon" you can sync it up with the Wizard of OZ...???



posted on Dec, 7 2005 @ 12:48 AM
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Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas
I never heard of that, but has anyone heard of the story of how if you play "Dark Side of The Moon" you can sync it up with the Wizard of OZ...???


Its true. I have a copy of them synced up



posted on Dec, 7 2005 @ 02:52 AM
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I saw a webpage a while ago that dealt with "backwards voices." The guy running the site sold software you could use to hear anything backwards. Anyways he checked out stairway to heaven and said its actually a good message if u listen to it all. Anyways he said that anything we say can be played backwards and there will be a message dealing with whatever we are talking about. Kinda like the bible code, but in our speech. He said he was recording something and his baby came up and played with his microphone and when he played it backwards he heard his baby say "whats that" even tho the child couldnt talk yet. (My nephew could ask for things and say simple things like "hot" or "milk" through sign language before he could talk, so kids do know words before they can speak.)



posted on Dec, 7 2005 @ 07:15 AM
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IMHO all these hidden messages are nothing but a commercial idea to sell more.
How many people in the world could have bought the LP/CD just to see if there really was some hidden message? I think lots.

You know, it's some sort of "speak well, speak bad... what really matters is that you speak about it"... well the original sentence was expressed in a better way, but it should give the idea...



posted on Dec, 7 2005 @ 08:45 AM
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The Pink Floyd messege in Empty Spaces is real and intended and funny. LOL! Love those guys.


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posted on Dec, 7 2005 @ 02:51 PM
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Now, what puzzles me is: does our unconscious mind perceive such "play-backwards" messages or not?



posted on Dec, 7 2005 @ 03:35 PM
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This is basically cause in the 60's early 70's a drug called ACID was going around .. as well as NUMEROUS others .... That today's kids will not be exposed to as much .. Thank God .... But this is why they heard things ... Have you ever heard a Record played backwards ??? Especially Guitar solo's .... try it sometime .. Just put it on there and shop that crap up ... You know how to DJ .... If not it is easy just play with it ... =-) .. Anyways ... Try it then come back ... You can make it say whatever you really want it to .. if you are in control of it with your hand .. or you have a stations to slow and speed up records ..



posted on Dec, 10 2005 @ 05:28 PM
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There was a case in the news not too long ago, where a father of a suicide victim tried to get a massive compensation claim from a rock band ( i cant remember which one) on the basis that when you played one of their records backwards it said something like "get the gun." weird yes when you find out the kid shot himself.

The band brought in a few more records and played them backwards, it was class, in one of them it said "go and get a peppermint, go and ge a peppermint please" it was halerious......at the time (its one of those things you had to see to appriciate)

Needless to say the case was thrown out, but you see that kind of thing all the time.



posted on Dec, 10 2005 @ 06:43 PM
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Weird Yes lol....

Recently a rock singer killed himself, and his family said the "Evil Music" caused it.... though there is no eveidence of him playing it backwards... and he had Mental Health Issues... so thats probably it.... but who knows eh?



The father of a heavy metal rock singer who killed himself has blamed the band's "dark and evil" music for his suicide. The inquest was told Gareth Bonetto formed the death metal band Blood Retch in 2002.

Nice name!


The band had played across the UK and Europe and their debut album Pain is My Weakness included songs with titles including The End, My Time has Come and Demons.

Mmmm


The band's website listed Mad Eddie's likes as "burgers, Satan, money, wrestling and porn


Well he will be remembered more for his cultured outlook rather than his music then.

and Finally


His dislikes included "everybody" and he said he was "looking forward to destroying the world".


BBC

Well music seemed to do it to him be it backwards or forwards.

MischeviouslyReorganisingMyiPodToPositiveTunes

Regards

Elf


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posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 05:53 PM
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Anytime you play a song backwards, you hear really bizzarre sounds. Some people hear jibberish, and some people hear messages. It's all subject to interpretation.

I think it may have been Stairway to Heaven, you can hear the phrase "My Sweet Satan." Or it may have been a different song... I honestly can't remember. We did this as an experiment in a Psychology class I took a few years ago. Anyways, we did an experiment to see what certain people thought they heard when they heard the same portion of song played backwards. Some people came up with nothing, some came up with "My Sweet Satan," and some came up with "My Tweed Sweater."

My point is, if you are listening to hear something, you'll hear something.

You'll hear a sound, and your mind will fill in the blanks and convince you of what you want to hear, if that's really what you want to hear.

I've spoken to a number of sound and production people, several that I work with in a local Planetarium, and they've all reiterated that this phenomenon is completely a coincidence. It is physically impossible to record a voice backwards and alter it into an album... they spend enough time just trying to make the regular sound that plays forwards sound right. There also is no technology available today that can record a message backwards.

You could, theoretically, record a voice playing forward, then reverse the voice, then try to place that voice on the tape. Again, I spoke to some production people about this... the problem would be actually hiding the sound so that you wouldn't notice while it's being played forwards. When you hear these "messages" while playing a tape backwards, you are hearing the spoken lyrics of the song played backwards that sometimes sound like messages. You can't purposely record a lyric forwards, and then have it sound like another coherent message backwards. If it does sound like a message when played backwards, it's a coincidence.

On a side note...

The other "backwards voice phenomenon" that I've read about, although I can't say one way or another (too scared to try it myself!), is when someone is recording EVP or "White Noise." I've read about certain accounts where people have been recording, trying to reach "other worldly voices" via a tape recorder and Electronic Voice Phenomenon. Sometimes, they hear the voice forwards on their tapes, and sometimes they hear the "sprit voices" clearly if they play the tape in reverse!



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 06:06 PM
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God I loved the 70's. You could hear talk about such things when it was actually a new phenom, before we all got jaded.

I remember my very best friend had bought some huge, awesome speakers and we were kicked back in his living room, toasted on something I won't mention here, and listening to the stereo. suddenly there was voices in the background of the music. He got close to the speakers and determined it was some kind of chanting that was in the background of the recording. He got up, walked over to the stereo and yanked the record off and broke it. It actually scared him.

The background chanting didn't stop though. We listened closer and realized his new, big speakers were picking up somebody talking on a CB radio.


DISCO is dead!!!! Long live the 70's.

Wupy

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posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 06:10 PM
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Ok, but let's pick, for example, Britney's Spear "Hit me Baby One More Time" or whatever it's called. Dunno if it's reported in the links provided, but there's a part thet, when played backwards, clearly says "Sleep with me i'm not too young". I think that's rather too long to be mere coincidence, isn't it?

Now... i agree with the fact that hiding a previously recorded backwards message could be from very difficult to almost impossible; but, what if someone wrote the lyrics in order to obtain such a message when played backwards?

I mean, i think somebody with a gifted ear and good sound knowledge could do something like that, don't you think so?

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