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CFR says Open Borders (No. America) in four years!

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posted on Dec, 6 2005 @ 02:28 PM
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OPEN ALL THE NORTH AMERICAN BORDERS!

Council on Foreign Relations website:

www.cfr.org...

Are you ready for this open borders between US, Mexico and Canada? The North American Summit has already been held and they are working hard to bring this to reality.

As all you ATS members know the CFR is a very top dog behind the politics. Don't you think it would be nice for them to let us know beyond burying it on their website?

Here's the outline of the plan:



Make North America safer:

* Establish a common security perimeter by 2010.
* Develop a North American Border Pass with biometric identifiers.
* Develop a unified border action plan and expand border customs facilities.

Create a single economic space:

* Adopt a common external tariff.
* Allow for the seamless movement of goods within North America.
* Move to full labor mobility between Canada and the U.S.
* Develop a North American energy strategy that gives greater emphasis to reducing emissions of greenhouse gases -- a regional alternative to Kyoto.
* Review those sectors of NAFTA that were excluded.
* Develop and implement a North American regulatory plan that would include "open skies and open roads" and a unified approach for protecting consumers on food, health, and the environment.
* Expand temporary worker programs and create a "North American preference" for immigration for citizens of North America.

Spread benefits more evenly:

* Establish a North American Investment Fund to build infrastructure to connect Mexico's poorer regions in the south to the market to the north.
* Restructure and reform Mexico's public finances.
* Fully develop Mexican energy resources to make greater use of international technology and capital.

Institutionalize the partnership:

* Establish a permanent tribunal for trade and investment disputes.
* Convene an annual North American summit meeting.
* Establish a Tri-national Competition Commission to develop a common approach to trade remedies.
* Expand scholarships to study in the three countries and develop a network of Centers for North American Studies.


Mod Edit: Fixed Link, Added Quote Tags.

[edit on 6/12/2005 by Mirthful Me]




posted on Dec, 6 2005 @ 03:00 PM
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Well if this isn't proof, what is?

They're letting all sorts of people into Britain now, as Tony Blair's wife is a Human Rights lawyer who let's people get away with getting into the country.



posted on Dec, 6 2005 @ 03:06 PM
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It it so fradulent for Bush to be all over the news last week blathering about his guest worker and amnesty plans when it's all BS in light of the North American Summit.



posted on Dec, 6 2005 @ 03:18 PM
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I see many major up and downs to this plan. It could quite possibly lead to many great things, while creating social unrest. If something similar to this does end up occuring, i see the U.S becoming vastly overpopulated in the south due to open borders. Until Mexico's infastructure is updated and streamlined. It quite possibly could make certain things cheaper due to unrestricted lines of trade....i dont know, Interesting topic none the less.



posted on Dec, 6 2005 @ 07:02 PM
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Yes the potential implications in practical and political terms are enormous and it would turn into an endless morass of speculation. I guess for any who had dreamed of moving to Canada your chance may be coming! Of course it all smells of Cafta, Nafta and EU and is ripe for globalist domination theories and destruction of the middle class, prison planet, etc.

The other aspect is when do they plan to let us in on the program and how dare they decide this in private? Opening our doors to the masses is no small thing. From an American perspective jobs, real estate and voting blocks spring to mind.

Funny thing is an old Mexican barber was making some remarks to me some months back about how soon No. America would all be open and also how there aren't too many (white) guys left and he laughed over that. Where did he get this info, he was pertty mush of campensino stock, probably never been online in his life. Makes you wonder what Mexicans talk about between themselves.

I can't imagine the Canadians would be very thrilled with there protected life being broken into. Likely our military would take control of theirs. Of course I am sure we would be happy to get control of Mexican oil.

[edit on 6-12-2005 by peopledying]



posted on Dec, 6 2005 @ 09:47 PM
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You mean I will finally be able to get into Canada?

Bring it on!!



posted on Dec, 6 2005 @ 09:58 PM
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I give a lot of weight to this because it is on the CFR website. From what I have learned these folks start and stop wars, pick presidents etc. I don't want to be a conpisratorial fool however. What do you think the importance of the Council on Foreign Relations is?



posted on Dec, 6 2005 @ 10:06 PM
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Are the powers that be, totally stupid, or what? Or is this a part of the master plan to start the 2nd Civil War even faster?

If we have major influx of people, basically cheap labor, then it will make a major clash of our current population with the new & incoming one, when it comes to the dollar we get paid per hour.

Can you imagine how this will upset our Stock Market? How it will affect the mass publics feeling of job security? How it will affect you & I, & our futures with feeling secure about our retirement?

If we already have the new law in order, that lets us defend ourselves with equal force, if we feel threatened, then how will the mass public feel when they are threatened by someone taking their job?

The public that makes up the John Q Public & Jane P Taxpayer already have an issue with Hispanics & other ethnic groups (I don't have an issue with it, I work harder than them, so My job is secure)taking their jobs at a lower rate of pay & working harder than them, so what will this do to their perception on those races?

Also, if they're going to implement the tracking via biochip tracking, that means those who are chipped can go anywhere & everywhere they want, & if you refuse to get chipped, then you'll be seen as an outsider, when others that were originally an outsider are able to do what the Hell they want to do, & go where they want.

I am not a happy camper, & you should be just as upset about this.



posted on Dec, 7 2005 @ 06:34 PM
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Now from another thread I see Dick Cheny is implicated here as well.



posted on Dec, 8 2005 @ 05:15 AM
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Does this mean that it will be harder to dodge the draft by going to Canada if the US government were to use it?

[edit on 8-12-2005 by mashup]



posted on Dec, 8 2005 @ 11:24 AM
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This report has been discussed in a number of threads.

The CFR is an independant non-governmental policy discussion group. They created a seperatre panel to consider the borders and other topics. The report is that panels recommendations and conclusions.

It has nothing to do with establishing an open border.

It talks about greater cooperation between the US Canada and Mexico, ie the two countries that share a border with the US, and getting them to work with the US to tighten their own borders, thus making the common border with the US more secure.

edit to add:
kudos to peopledying for linking to the actual CFR page on the report and citing specific instances in the report itself.

Most people in other threads cited reviews of the report from conspiracy sites, rather than the report.


Here are a few of the other threads, but please, continue the discssion
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 8-12-2005 by Nygdan]



posted on Dec, 8 2005 @ 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by Nygdan
This report has been discussed in a number of threads.

The CFR is an independant non-governmental policy discussion group. They created a seperatre panel to consider the borders and other topics. The report is that panels recommendations and conclusions.


I don't think the influence of the CFR can be brushed off so lightly can it? I suppose you could say Bohemian grove and Bilderburg are "independent non-governmental policy discussion group"(s) but this would not sit well with a lot of ATS members I don't think. The Federal Reserve is also an independent non-governmental banking group but look at their power.


It has nothing to do with establishing an open border.


Somehow I don't see that being the case based on some excerpts from the outline:

* Establish a common security perimeter by 2010.
* Develop a North American Border Pass with biometric identifiers.
Create a single economic space:
* Allow for the seamless movement of goods within North America.
* Move to full labor mobility between Canada and the U.S.
* Develop and implement a North American regulatory plan that would include "open skies and open roads"
* Establish a North American Investment Fund to build infrastructure to connect Mexico's poorer regions in the south to the market to the north.

Given the fact that they would be likely to tone this down (to avoid civil war) it still seems pretty encompassing.



posted on Dec, 8 2005 @ 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by mashup
Does this mean that it will be harder to dodge the draft by going to Canada if the US government were to use it?

[edit on 8-12-2005 by mashup]


A lot of people have commented that our Military would for all practical purposes dominate the canadian military9 what there is of it) so draft dodging to Canada might vanish.



posted on Dec, 9 2005 @ 08:24 AM
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Originally posted by peopledying
I don't think the influence of the CFR can be brushed off so lightly can it?

Funny you should mention it like that.


Thats one of their own graphics.


The full context of that graphic is that their publication, Foreign Affairs, is 'rated' #1 in 'influence' by, well, I guess, people who'd know. *shrugs* But the point is that the CFR's fiat isn't law. Interstingly tho, I noticed that the last two speeches by the president on the iraq war, one was at a military college and the other was at the CFR. It will be intersting to see where the rest of the 4-part series will be.


I suppose you could say Bohemian grove and Bilderburg are "independent non-governmental policy discussion group"(s) but this would not sit well with a lot of ATS members I don't think.

Indeed I would. In particular the Bohemian Grove seems to be made up of influential people, but I don't really see anything indicating that the group, as a group, is influential, ie that matters of policy are thoroughly discussed and implemented there, that decisions are made. I'm sure that when the power brokers get together, they often discuss policy, but that doesn't mean that they're deciding on it as a group.


The Federal Reserve is also an independent non-governmental banking group but look at their power.

The people that run the Federal Reserve are appointed by the president and confirmed by the congress. Its a governmental institution.



based on some excerpts from the outline.

An open border between mexico , the us, and canada, would mean that the borders are like the open borders between US states, not simply ones that have expidited processing of goods and labour.

so draft dodging to Canada might vanish

Not for nothing, but since draft dodging is illegal, then this should be seen as a good thing, why should canada be protecting american criminals? Not that there's an actual chance of there being a draft anytime soon anyway.



posted on Dec, 9 2005 @ 08:34 AM
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Just like the EU ... Don't fall for it!



posted on Dec, 9 2005 @ 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by SwearBear
Just like the EU ... Don't fall for it!


Yes, because the EU has been such a disaster: I mean we haven't dropped bombs on each other for 50 years, we've become so much wealthier, human rights have become enshrined in law and I can fly to Italy or France for £50 or buy a villa in Spain. He's right - don't fall for it!



posted on Dec, 9 2005 @ 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by FatherLukeDuke

Yes, because the EU has been such a disaster: I mean we haven't dropped bombs on each other for 50 years, we've become so much wealthier, human rights have become enshrined in law and I can fly to Italy or France for £50 or buy a villa in Spain. He's right - don't fall for it!


Seriously I have wondered and asked some Europeans their opinion on the good and bad of the EU. responses seemed to be mixed, I guess it may depend on which country. However despite gains or losses in practical terms there is a concern that reductions in national soveriengty may be heading in the direction of too much global control by too few and that is more at issue in the long term perhaps.



posted on Dec, 9 2005 @ 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by Nygdan



Thats one of their own graphics.


The full context of that graphic is that their publication, Foreign Affairs, is 'rated' #1 in 'influence' by, well, I guess, people who'd know. *shrugs* But the point is that the CFR's fiat isn't law.


www.jeremiahproject.com...
"The CFR began on July 29, 1921, in New York City in 1921 by Col. Edward Madell House, chief adviser to President Woodrow Wilson in league with the same stockholders of The Federal Reserve."

"The founders included many of those who had been at the signing of the Treaty of Versailles after World War I, including Colonel Edward House and Walter Lippmann. Finances for the CFR came from: J.P. Morgan; John D. Rockefeller; Bernard Baruch; Paul Warburg; Otto Kahn; and Jacob Schiff."

Here is an incredible interactive timeline showing CFR history. These are the same people who snookered us into the federal Reserve in 1913.

www.modernhistoryproject.org...

Have you looked at any of the theories about CFR?

www.sweetliberty.org...
www.geocities.com...




[edit on 9-12-2005 by peopledying]



posted on Dec, 10 2005 @ 07:55 AM
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Damn CFR. Doing what they do best. The selling out of humanity.



posted on Dec, 10 2005 @ 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by FatherLukeDuke

Originally posted by SwearBear
Just like the EU ... Don't fall for it!


Yes, because the EU has been such a disaster: I mean we haven't dropped bombs on each other for 50 years, we've become so much wealthier, human rights have become enshrined in law and I can fly to Italy or France for £50 or buy a villa in Spain. He's right - don't fall for it!

Wasn't NATO established to prevent the bomb dropping? The EU became a political union in 1992. Before that it was the European Economic Community, just a common market, which was OK in my opinion.

I sure haven't become any wealthier, neither has my family or anybody I know. We've just gotten more taxes (we already had enough, believe me), useless EU directives, lost power of our currency and thus lost the sovreignity our vets fought so hard to obtain.
By the way, you're actually reimbursed for full air fares even if you take cheap flights, the EU taxpayer pays for that.

And now the cost for running the EU is going to increase to six times it's current cost, which means more and more taxes. The greed of the bureaucrat is eternal.
The EU is just full of corruption, rotten to the core.

Forget about the Pan-American union, it's not worth it.



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