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remeber watching a video on BBC news that showed an israeli soldier tying a palestinian kid to te bonnet of his jeep to use as a human sheild the video and story wa son the net
Israel also shoots children with snipers and that is also fact only the blind will not see it.
please take a look and you would realise jews are not a majority in any region of what is know known as israel,westbank or gaza and this was only done in 1945 which is just 2 years before israel was created
Using children as shields for jeeps is straight out of the SS tactic handbook for any army to consider that reasonable
Interesting that you keep using the UN plan map - comparison with the modern borders demonstrates that the lebensraum policy is alive and continuing on a daily basis.
You can't deny the Israeli troops shoot children - I've seen it on TV.
Of course the Palestinians do awful things too but you can't operate at their level and still claim the respect and rights due to a law-abiding sovereign nation. For example Isreal could actually adhere to UN resolutions instead of trotting out all the old, tired excuses, prosecute soldiers who shoot children, actually instigate investigations into soldiers who execute peace campaigners rather than being shamed into doing so etc etc.
If you behaved decently and lawfully you would get more respect from the west.
Originally posted by Conspiracy Theorist
Originally posted by Classified Info
Israel has been invaded before. That tiny little country is sourounded by fanatics that have stated over and over again their desire to drive them into the ocean. They need a strong defense if they are going to survive as a country. I can't fault them for this.
I was also against the Gulf War I back 15 years ago.
Is that a defense for violating UN Resolutions? Is that a defense for obtaining WMDs and there delivery systems?
Originally posted by Born British
The Jews should have never been able to settle in the Gaza strip the fact the UN did crap all was a complete joke.
Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
Seeing how Israel has never been a threat to her neighbors, and since she has those weapons so that she may survive while being surrounded by people who want nothing but her demise, and since she can expect no help from a "world council" (U.N.) that despises her, nit-picking everything about her and ignoring all violations of human decency by her neighbors, I'd have to say, no. We should not try and take her nukes away.
Originally posted by EarthUnificationFrontier
You know what makes the Israeli so irrating and downright despictable, they would call anyone a Nazi if you show any Anti-Israelism or any doubts at their nation. Dude, the Halocuast was what, more than 60 years ago? Most Jewish survivors are not even here no more, move on. But no, the Israelis just use this as a way to be showered with sympathy and compassion from the West, but you know what? No one gives a crap anymore.
The American aboringinals were slaughtered by European settlers, they don't say a thing now. Chinese women were raped and tortured during Japanese occupation, they don't ask for sympathy from the world. Im sure there are loads more of these unfortunate victims from recent history and they just move on and live their own present lives putting the past behind them.
But Israel just have to keep on and on and on about the Halocaust that happened 6 decades ago, just another of their excuses that the Promised Land formerly lived by the Palestine is rightly justified for them, so they can do whatever they want to wipe the Palestinian chidren and women out with Apache helicopters M16 APC.
[edit on 16-3-2006 by EarthUnificationFrontier]
If not for EU UN and international condemn Israel would have already wiped Palestine off the surface of the planet tomorrow with all the nukes they have and hide from UN inspection.
Maybe this will give you a clue: Quite a recent example of how Israel and Palestine are at "war".
The holocaust is a fresh wound and what makes it an event that should be commemorized is that it was a policy imposed by a democracy to annhilate a population that for the most part was an integral part of that society. Of course there were other populations throughout recent history that suffered. THe Tibetens under the Chinese, Armenians under the Turks, Kurds under Sadaam Hussein, etc. What did not occur though was a systematic collection of those populations in camps, forced labor, systematic slaughter - dude they made soap out of holocaust victims, used their skins to make chandelers and other stuff and performed experiments on them as well.
I agree for the most part but I do disagree with one thing there- what makes you think your people's suffering is above that of others? The West was one by making lamps out of Native American skins yet the those victims would never make such an absurd claim (that they are above critique because they "suffered the most"). I believe this show's in part the mentality of many Israelis- "Our suffering compensates that of any Palestinian goyim". Seriously, that's a pretty offensive thing to say, and your not the first Ive seen making this claim. Anyway, I do believe the Palestinians shell out an absurd amount of propaganda each year, and that Israel is unfairly blamed way too often. The intifada comes to mind.