Originally posted by ArchAngel

Judaism is not one religion.

There are four Jewish religions.

Jews are not a race, or a religion, or a nationality.

They are an ethnic group.

That is a great answer, but how do you define "ethnic group" ?

What does Sammy Davis Jr. have to do with anything being discussed

He was a black Jew.

It defeats the notion that Jews are a race.

Further proving that many have no right to the land in Israel.

Race a social construct.




seekerof

Race a social construct.

Race is not something you can just join up with.

You are born with it.

Even the Prime Minister of Israel is not a racial Israelite.

His Grandparents were Russian Christians that converted after the Bolshevik uprising.

Judaism is a religion - The four main Jewish religious denominations are:

Orthodox Judaism

Conservative (Masorti) Judaism,

Reform/Liberal/Progressive Judaism

Reconstructionist Judaism

This is the main subdivisions of only one Jewish religion.

They ignore the others.

The four Jewish religions are defined by their holy books.

1. The Samaritans holy book is the first five books of the OT.

2. The Karaites holy book is the entire OT.

3. The Talmudists holy book is the entire OT, and the Babylonian Talmud.

4. The kabbalists holy book is the entire OT, the Babylonian Talmud, and the Mystic Kabbalah.

Some would say that Messianic Jews[Jews For Jesus] are Jewish, but Israel does not.

Israel is by far a Talmudist majority.

That is absolute wrong.

I'd highly recommend you'd do some serious research on Judaism and also on the population of Israel.

Originally posted by Riwka
That is absolute wrong.

I'd highly recommend you'd do some serious research on Judaism and also on the population of Israel.

Who said what that was wrong?

Thank you.

Most of the people laying their divine claim to the lands which even the Bible called Pallestine aren't ethnicly linked to the middle east at all. Most of them are in fact Russian and Eastern European Jews. It's a longer story than I want to bother with at the moment, but if you want to know the short of it, Jews have been expelled from literally every single european nation at some point or another. The most recent 'exodus' prior to WWII was from Russia after the jewish led Bolshevik Movement killed millions upon millions of people with the red herring we know collectively as communism. After WWI, and the very interesting treaty of Versailles most of those settled into Poland and Germany until the 1930's when Germany decided to expel them as well. The rest of the story is hotly debated, but the signifigance of those events are very relevant to events taking place today in the middle east. The Ottomans and the Arab nations were the last real resistance to a global zionism, now that the Ottomans are out of the way the only real resistance left was Arabia.
Aside from Israel, in all but two middle eastern nations, Judaism and Freemasonry are strictly outlawed, the ancient Kabalist practice of Human Sacrifice was a big reason for this, but the two cultures have been at war since who knows when, fighting over Salt, Gold, and now thanks to some dirty deals with the British Empire, Real Estate.
Jewish Culture maintains that every expulsion has been the result of antisemitism and ethnic cleansing, while everytime the other side says it was either matters of Finance or Power grabbing, but regardless of the witch hunting, there's always a war, an exodus, and then a deluge of finger pointing. All that crap about the Pilgrams comming to America for example, to escape religous persecution was in a large part actually the flight of the zionists and freemasons fleeing their last refuges in Europe.
It all boils down to control, the temple you often hear refered to in Freemasonry and Jewish Jargon isn't an actual building, it's a sytem of control, a metaphor for creating a class based society through international finance.
But I want to make it absolutely clear that all of this war and Usurping has nothing to do with being Jewish, it's actually about Zionism, and Judaism and Zionism are two completely different things. Freemasonry is a form of Zionism if that tells you anything. But don't be fooled into thinking that Israel is some poor nation fighting for survival in the midst of evil, or that being Jewish is an ethnic singularity. That is the capital of Zion, placed there by the western world as a seat of power.

Jews have been expelled from literally every single european nation at some point or another

hence the europeans dumped them in the middle east for them to sort out.

"The main reason Palestine won’t come into existence is that the Arab Palestinians don’t want it to, nor does Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia or Egypt, notwithstanding protestations to the contrary. ... They rejected the Partition Plan in ’47. They rejected the State of Israel when it was declared in ’48 with the support of the US State Department, and invaded Israel en masse. In ’64 they created the PLO which they dedicated to destroying Israel. "

What utter ignorance.

The Arabs do want a Palestine nation.

They just don't want an Israeli nation.

The stupidest dichotomy I have yet seen here on ATS.

Being against an Israeli nation is the opposite of being against a Palestinian nation, not the same thing.

ok. this is my guess.

US will allow Arabs gang up on Israel and invade it. UN will do nothing as usual and simply stand by and watch the slaughter as it did in the Rwanda genocide.

Lets face it. Experts are beginning to say that already America is losing this war on terror. Many mistake have happend like torture chambers in Abu Ghraib and Camp x-ray. we have lost our image and whole of the moslem world hates us. thats like 20 percent of entire world population, nearly 1000 000 000 people. that not even counting other europens and other people. and what for? just siding with israel?

Pentagon has got it figured out that this is the only way to win end this war on terrorism by winning hearts and minds of Arabs. They are already kissing their ass.

washington is going to let another holocaust happen to the jews.

and arabs are all ready and waiting to do the dirty work.

we have to stop this terror war now. thats the only way. its a load of BS !!




[edit on 9-12-2005 by mr conspiracy]

hey my conspiracy

you want to barcode the arabs then, and add microchips so they can be tracked from space?


just to make sure


why not intern them in safe havens (or ghettos)


just to make sure


then you can be safe in the knowledge that you can make a lasting and final solution.


or not.

The israelies routinly ignore UN resolutions (all 74 of them) and yet where is the us armada spanking there collective butts??


To harken back to `days of holocaust` is one thing , and yes the world needs to remember - but it also needs to remember the other millions that have died as a result of wars thank you very much.


go into a wood , chop down a tree , build a bridge and get the F*** over it ; it seems to me that they want to live in a world of sorrow and pity - where all the world (and his wife) pity`s the Jewish people.