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Originally posted by queenannie38
It never ceases to amaze me how acceptable it obviously is, in the minds of so many people, for these things to be 'decided' in ways that are far more political and beaurocratic than they are spiritual (and I'm being generous with the possibility of any true spiritual concern--meaning true motivation, not perceived motivation).
And how do you know that? I mean really know? There is not a single person alive that can say, with unquestionable authority, where any person (baby or adult, 'saint' or 'sinner') goes 'immediately' after death.
Originally posted by dbrandt
There never was a purgatory. A baby at death goes immediately to be with God.
The doctrine of purgatory was instituted by Gregory I in 593. Purgatory was proclaimed as a dogma by Council of Florence in the year 1439, by that time the truth about God and salvation had been compromised.
Originally posted by dbrandt
There never was a purgatory. A baby at death goes immediately to be with God.
The doctrine of purgatory was instituted by Gregory I in 593. Purgatory was proclaimed as a dogma by Council of Florence in the year 1439, by that time the truth about God and salvation had been compromised.
www.gospelcenterchurch.org...
[edit on 4-12-2005 by dbrandt]
[edit on 4-12-2005 by dbrandt]
Originally posted by Relentless
However, one must be in a state of perfection to be in the presence of God. Not all who die have achieved this state of perfection and Purgatory is where they are till this can be rectified.
Originally posted by benevolent tyrant
One last problem is what does the church do about those souls who have already suffered in limbo or purgatory.....do they go to hell? do they go to heaven, even though they have sins on their soul (but not big ones. so , in effect, it's ok to go to heaven with a few "little" sins)? Whew, what a theological can of worms.
Originally posted by Relentless
Not really, you obviously didn't read what I wrote, all souls in purgatory ultimately go to heaven, but not till their souls are purified. It's all quite clear when it comes to the Catholic beliefs on purgatory.
Originally posted by Relentless
benevolent: Okay - I'll say it again - Limbo and Purgatory are NOT THE SAME THING!