NEWS: Former Child Counselor Guilty on 51 counts of Child Molestation

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posted on Jan, 8 2006 @ 10:58 PM
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Fairfax, I actually suspected that may have been your situation and it's why I was so proud of you.

Often when people discover that those employed to help victims, and highly respected for it, are part of the 'cover up', they get a "you can't beat them" attitude, and collapes into a depression of silence.

I focus on alerting people to these, "good and respected" people who protect each other with their 'good names', because untill folk learn to question everyone accused and implicated, with an open mind, they will keep covering for each other and justice will remain so rare as to be nullified.

The fact that he urged you to pursue your childs case but you still saw it as his 'cover' and didn't jump on a support bandwagon for him, makes you a Champion. Too many just can't accept someone so 'dedicated' is the problem, and in their effort to be just and greatfull, champion the perpetrator over the victims.

Have you inquired as to why your local media has down played this story? Maybe you could send them all a link to this thread and 'shame' them into doing major stories on how "their system" works. Even if they claim this story is now old, you could point out the issue certanly isn't.

Personally, I feel your sharing this much with us at ATS, is more than enough for you to do now, but if you find it keeps 'bugging' to the point of effecting your mutual recovery, it could help; if you're prepared to deal with a likely, callous disreguard to the issue.

Either way, you are a CHAMPION.




posted on Jan, 10 2006 @ 04:55 PM
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Thanks alot for your support, it really helped to just get it off my chest. I just needed to vent. TRUST ME, I would love to walk into the court room the day he is sentenced and show the world a letter HE WROTE about the life long effect these victims suffer. The only thing that is stopping me is Knowing this will once again put my childs case in the headlines. My child has come a long way and I won't do anything that will make him re-live that nightmare again. I know I can not save the world, but if enough people read this, then maybe another family will not have to go through this.



posted on Jan, 10 2006 @ 11:06 PM
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Wow. I had no idea this thread would draw a comment from someone with such a close association to this monstrous person. I am glad to provide the venue and be one of the people who cares enough to try and bring these stories a wider audience and keep them in the public eye for as long as possible. The more the word gets out, and the more able parents become to spot the perpetrators of this unspeakable abuse, through whatever mantle of authority or attempt at normalcy, the safer our kids are and the better their lives will be.




posted on Jan, 11 2006 @ 12:50 AM
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I. R., I'm sure other people connected to this case have at least read it to, and though they may not yet have the strenghth to 'speak out', seeing survivers, family, friends and strangers support each other in "putting the blame and shame where it belongs" will help them cope.
Maybe even one day become a most effective voice, though no one should ask more of them than living a good happy life, as for so many that's harder than climbing Everest, landing on the moon and curing all cancers.

That's why I get sad when threads on this topic die short, quick deaths, because so many still feel or believe they are alone in their suffering, whereas the world is full of people, both victims and their dedicated friends and loved ones, who know how truely amazing the children and parents are, just by determining to go on.

A word also, to adult survivers; If you've been coping alone and silent, and that works for you, great, full support.
If however it's getting to be too much but you fear not being believed or told to keep 'sucking it up' as you've so far done, you can 'vent' on forums like this or find a local surviver group, and you'll discover NO ONE who MATTERS, would ever blame or feel less of you, for sitting on the secret.

Better to vent, 40 years later, than blow your brains out 40 years later, as so many have done, because they wrongly felt they'ld always be 'alone' and never happy.
There are more than a few people out there, ready to be your "Champion", bring you joys and bear your dark days.



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posted on Jan, 13 2006 @ 09:41 PM
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I can assure you that other people who knew Whitmore have read these post. We had been stuck on the WHY question for along time, and have worked thru numerous stages past that. Now, I want to focus on ways of stopping these "Monsters" and keeping them away from our families.
I often feel that our "JUSTICE SYSTEM" is the biggest enabler to these MONSTERS. They only serve part of thier sentence and are released back into society. I do not believe a sex offender can be rehabilitated, They have to be locked up like animal and never given the opportunity to hurt another child. I cannot change the past, but I will continue to fight to make this a better world for our children.



posted on Jan, 13 2006 @ 09:44 PM
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Fairfax: Do you know how to read your U2Us?



posted on Jan, 14 2006 @ 10:57 AM
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Actually, I discover something new everytime I log on to this site. I did find the "U2U's" area. I read the messages there and was very excited to see that so many other people have the same concerns. I did try and send a reply (Thanking you for getting the word to more people) but, being new to this site, I do not have points to send a reply at this time. I am encouraged at all the post I have read regarding this subject. When I first found this site, I thought it would be a bunch of crazy people way out in left field. BUT...... I WAS WRONG !!!! What I did find, was a group of intelligent people who all seem to have a common interest (To speak up about subjects that most people would rather pretend never existed). And with that, I feel I have found not only a place that people understand, but, a place where people actually care. LIFE CAN'T GET ANY BETTER THEN THIS!!

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posted on Jan, 14 2006 @ 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by Fairfax
I can assure you that other people who knew Whitmore have read these post. We had been stuck on the WHY question for along time, and have worked thru numerous stages past that. Now, I want to focus on ways of stopping these "Monsters" and keeping them away from our families.
I often feel that our "JUSTICE SYSTEM" is the biggest enabler to these MONSTERS. They only serve part of thier sentence and are released back into society. I do not believe a sex offender can be rehabilitated, They have to be locked up like animal and never given the opportunity to hurt another child. I cannot change the past, but I will continue to fight to make this a better world for our children.


Fairfax, try this link;
www.csapp.net...
for getting in touch with a group that has respect and good standing, in working on these issues. It is based in Australian, but Reina Michaelson, who started it, does regularly travel and I'm sure they won't knock back a chance to help make America "hear" your call for justice.

I'm so glad ATS'ers have helped you find out you do have alot of support and we haven't all given up in dispare.

Also, Reina doesn't shy away from the high level corruption, aspect of this issue so it should also be interesting to 'general conspiracy theorists'.

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posted on Jan, 14 2006 @ 08:58 PM
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Thanks, I'll check it out.



posted on Jan, 14 2006 @ 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by DYepes
What kind of sick bastard would dare to even look at a child once he hears that neck snap and sees a lifeless body hanging for the crimes that they may be thinking of perpetuating in their mind.


I don't think that would stop a single person. You must remember that criminals don't THINK they will be caught, so sentence intensity is largely deficient as a deterrent to crime.

Anyways, as I understand it, child molesters and the like are driven by a sexual force that is hard to understand as a regular person. As much as we are motivated by the opposite sex, they are incited by youths. In other words, they aren't just "sicko bastards," they are sick bastards driven hard by a motivating force.

Zip



posted on Jan, 15 2006 @ 12:57 PM
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Even if it does not serve as a deterrent, it does assure they never have the opportunity to hurt another child.



posted on Feb, 4 2006 @ 09:35 PM
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Has anyone seen any updates on Whitmore's sentencing? February 3rd was his sentencing date (In San Diego superior court) and I have not found any information regarding the outcome of it. I know his partner "Rowland" got 15 years to life on a plea deal (What a waste of our court systems). And for some reason the judge put a gag order on any of the lawyers talking about the case??? I'll keep looking to see what the sentence was.



posted on Feb, 6 2006 @ 09:02 AM
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This is all I've found so far, as well. Here's a link to the story about his co-defendant, Brooke Lockwood Rowland, getting 15 years to life a week ago Friday, on January 28. I'll keep an eye out for more on Whitmore.

Poway man gets 15 to life for child porn role



SAN DIEGO - A Poway man who was part of an international child pornography ring in which he and another man produced photos of adults molesting children was sentenced Friday to 15 years to life in state prison.



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posted on Feb, 6 2006 @ 01:57 PM
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Capital punishment was invented for slimey little creatures like this character. He is an insult to humanity. If I haven't made myself clear enough, eeeewwww. Hang 'im high, and watch him dance.



posted on Feb, 6 2006 @ 05:00 PM
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My heart goes out to these indeed all victims of sex crimes and their families. Children should be protected and cherished but sadly all too often they aren't. People who commit sex crimes against children or people of any age don't rehabilitate in my experience. I have been in corrections for 15+ years, we send them to classes, provide them with Mental Health counseling, then the courts tell us to release them and usually less then a year later they are back for yep you guessed it sex crimes and of course the offenders blame the victim and refuse to accept resposibilty. It's sickening. I don't have the wisdom of David or the patience of Job so I don't have any answers on how to prevent these crimes other then educating our children to be aware and for all decent people to work to protect the innocent and helpless. Sex offenders, however should never be released and should be held in contempt.



posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 06:25 PM
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According to "Who's in Jail" (San Diego Sheriff page) Whitmore's next court appearance is on the 9th of February. Hopefully that is the sentencing date. The other day I was thinking of something Whitmore had told me, he was telling me how Kids are taught to listen to and trust adults ( Like, tell an adult if someone tries to hurt you) these are the children that are easy targets for these PERVERTS. As sad as it may sound, our world is a place where our children cannot trust anyone.
I am anxiously awaiting this cases to come to a close (I know in my heart, there are a million more waiting to be caught), but for me, I just have to feel like justice (If there is any) has been done and that the person I once trusted will be in prison until he dies and the will BURN IN HELL!!!! It is then that I will truly feel closure!!!!



posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by Fairfax
the person I once trusted will be in prison until he dies and the will BURN IN HELL!!!! It is then that I will truly feel closure!!!!


I support that one completely. Hope you get your closure soon.



posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 06:41 PM
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Fairfax. My prayers are with you and your child. Stay strong, and know that hell does await this sick little degenerate, and his compatiots, whoever and whereever they may be.

Capital punishment to hasten that judgement is called for.



posted on Feb, 10 2006 @ 09:30 AM
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From the page Fairfax mentioned above, it looks like sentencing for Whitmore may have been postponed until March 17. Is he being held without bond in the meantime? I hope so.

WHO IS IN JAIL



posted on Feb, 10 2006 @ 03:57 PM
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YES !!! YES!!! YES!!! WHITMORE HAS BEEN SENTENCED!!! I found an article on "nctimes"?? ( I'm not sure how to put a link to the article on here". It says he received " 467 years to life in state prison" and the judge also "imposed consecutive sentences on many of the counts".
Can anyone tell me if this means he will never get out or does life mean there is a chance he can be released after a set number of years???
I'm waiting to celebrate!!! Once I know I understand this correctly, I'm going to throw all the articles I have about this, as well as everything related to Whitmore into the fireplace and watch it BURN!!! To me, this is truly the official beginning of him BURNING IN HELLL!!! THERE IS A GOD!!!





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