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Get a TASTE of the conspiracy in science.

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posted on Sep, 23 2003 @ 09:53 AM
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www.issc-taste.org...

The site is about paranormal experiences from real scientists. They'r under a pseudoym for fear of ridicule from their peers or mainstream science.

This is the state science is in these days. What a conspiracy!!!

Some of the introduction is below:

TASTE is an online journal devoted to transcendent experiences that scientists have reported. It lets scientists express these experiences in a psychologically (and professionally) safe space.

Science is a wonderful profession: I've worked at it for almost 40 years, and love it. As a process for gathering and refining knowledge, it is so useful! But the process is practiced by people, not machines, and we are each affected by the conscious and unconscious hopes, habits and fears of our individual histories and cultural heritages. As Aldous Huxley so nicely put it, each of us is simultaneously the beneficiary and the victim of our culture.

Science and Scientism

As scientists, we have discovered a body of precisely observed factual data about the world, created a lot of good theories that make sense of much of that data � and we are part of a cultural heritage of scientism. Sociologists coined the term "scientism" back in the 1940s, when they realized that many scientists unthinkingly accepted many scientific theories as simple, unquestioned Truths, just like believers in any "ism," and thus we often acted like any prejudiced "believer," especially outside our immediate areas of expertise.



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Over the years I have had hundreds of fellow scientists from all sorts of fields quietly come up to me at meetings or write or phone me � when they had decided I was safe � to tell me about their unusual experiences apparently going beyond everyday reality, challenging our concepts of what the world is . These were experiences that intrigued them and/or were emotionally important to them, but which they could not tell to their colleagues or friends for fear of rejection or ridicule. Without worrying about more formal definitions, these transcendent experiences have included things such as:


  1. altered states of consciousness (ASCs), often involving new kinds of apparent knowledge and insights
  2. deep feelings of connection with life or the universe
  3. the apparent paranormal/psychic overcoming of ordinary barriers to communication
  4. various kinds of apparent transcendence of our ordinary physical selves.



Sometimes being able to tell me about such experiences in confidence has gotten them off people's chests or even been "therapeutic" (although I'm not a therapist). Sometimes I've been able to give scientific information about these experiences that relieves the reporter, producing a reaction something like: "Oh, it happens to other sane people? There's an established name for it? I'm not alone, it doesn't mean I'm crazy?!" And often the reaction is further on the order of "We only know it happens? But we don't know why? Why aren't we intensively researching these things? I ought to research it, but I can't, I would be. . . ." (reasons to not research it have included being laughed at and rejected, thought crazy, not getting tenure, losing a job, couldn't get any results published, etc.).




[Edited on 23-9-2003 by TheBandit795]



posted on Sep, 23 2003 @ 09:58 AM
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Living in a haunted home, I feel for these guys.

It's easy to ridicule a guy with an associates degree in computer science who works in a help desk position at age 25. It has happened. Most don't believe me. Others go further and get really nasty.

But to ridicule a scientist you would think would be much harder. These guys actually work in a field for years that opens them up to things in the paranormal realm. Usually, they know what they are talking about. You would think someone of their stature would get respect. But as soon as they see something "strange" they are now in the realms of the 25 year old geek.

It really really blows.



posted on Sep, 23 2003 @ 10:03 AM
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I understand and appreciate skepticism, especially in a trained scientist. But, I feel one of the main problems with society today is that most people are very close-minded and will not even look outside the box, much less think outside the box.

It took me about 5 years to really overcome my judgemental, fundamental christian upbringing. I am endeavoring to not drill these types of thoughts into my children so that they can look at the world and figure it out without a bunch of preconceived notions.

Glad to see that scientists can broaden their horizons too. Unfortunately, I think it normally takes an odd experience and then many times it still "didn't happen" because they can't explain it in rational terms!



posted on Sep, 23 2003 @ 11:49 AM
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People are trained to scoff at things that step outside the realm of acceted science.
The conditioned response is to scoff at research that goes outside of these acceted fields of research, I think this is for the sole purpose of discouraging research in these areas so that a small few remain the only ones with that knowlege.
The key is to ignore the scoffing and do the research whether others will scoff or not.
Don't allow yourself to get suppresseed.



posted on Sep, 23 2003 @ 01:26 PM
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We're all delusional!


Times are very unfortunate. When faced with a considerable amount of evidence, some people will dismiss it with great ease. It's rather disturbing to me. Is it really difficult to fathom that we do not know everything?



posted on Sep, 23 2003 @ 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by Bangin
We're all delusional!


Times are very unfortunate. When faced with a considerable amount of evidence, some people will dismiss it with great ease. It's rather disturbing to me. Is it really difficult to fathom that we do not know everything?
It is not difficult to fathom, however it requires a severe sef imposed deflation to the ego.
This seperates those who are in it to learn and those who are in it for glory.



posted on Sep, 23 2003 @ 10:03 PM
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That term, "scientism" is exactly what I meant (in other threads I've posted in) when I referred to Science going too far in studies on the physical universe at the expense of letting the spiritual sciences lag behind.

I would figure that for humankind to maintain a healthy "balance" in life, there should be equal emphasis on the spiritual & the physical. The problem seems to be that, since the Renaissance Age, the state of the "physical half" of humanity became more important than the "spiritual half"...And I believe that this is one of the main reasons why society (as a whole) has suffered.

I'm glad to see another effort by scientists come out & try to balance the scales again...



posted on Sep, 23 2003 @ 10:51 PM
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Another brilliant post by MD!!!




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