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Project Serpo: Postings by "Anonymous" -- Breaking news?

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posted on Jan, 20 2006 @ 05:27 PM
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skeptic overlord, i have utu'd some information.

it is by now pretty much well known by a large number of people.

it is not speculation to now disclose these momentous findings regarding mr ryan, there is no need to collude with secrecy is there.




posted on Jan, 20 2006 @ 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by Bill Ryan
Energy is power, in every sense of the word. It's a rather different arena from just disclosing secrets about events that may have occurred 50 years ago. If this device exists, I can understand why it'd be classified... those that have access to this kind of advanced technology could rule the world economically.

Best, Bill



I'd have to say Bill is correct in the statement that the implications of the energy devices involved throughout this project do have some significant national security implications - I believe if the project is true, and if we did see declassified docs, I'm sure pages and pages would be "blacked" out related to a lot of these devices...

Being in aerospace and an EE, I wanted to note a couple of Anon's points from the website I found interesting:


from Serpo.org
The Ebens developed a different type of electrical and propulsion system. It was unknown to our team and I don't think we ever really understood it. They were able to tap into a vacuum and bring back an enormous amount of energy from that vacuum.

Our team's living quarters, which consisted of several small buildings, contained electricity powered by a small box. This small box supplied all the power our team needed. Ironically, the electrical equipment our team brought on the trip worked using their power source only.


I've done a lot of work personally through the years with vacuum systems, and I find the prospect of "extracting" energy from a vacuum a little contradictory. The process of creating a vacuum within a chamber (in the 10 to the -8 exponential micron range or less) involves mechanical and/or diffusion pumps (at least for us lowly earthlings) - so you would have to be able to extract significant energy from the vacuum to make up for this loss of energy in order to create the vacuum in the first place. Without more data it's hard to say - although I'd love to read any of the scientists notes regarding how they might have extracted energy from the vacuum...



10) The Eben's energy device was analyzed over and over again by our team. Since our team did not have access to scientific microscopes or other measuring equipment, we could not understand the function of the energy device.

But, regardless of the electrical demand, the Eben energy device provided the proper current and wattage. Out team surmised the device had some sort of regulator that sensed the required current/wattage and then supplied that specific amount. (Note: Our Team Members brought back two energy devices for analysis.)


This is one of the more interesting sections to me... Not so much because the device could provide the correct current and wattage automatically based on the electrical demand, but because of the statement "regardless" of electrical demand. I would have to guess that's an incorrect statement made by the observer. Unlimited power generation? Now that is a technology that would certainly be powerful for any nation to have...

Kudos to the moderators for checking the facts on Centrists' info - it's good to see things are being kept in perspective and we're being cautious with this story...

Till next time,
-rdube02




[edit on 20-1-2006 by rdube02]

[edit on 20-1-2006 by rdube02]



posted on Jan, 20 2006 @ 05:51 PM
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Skeptic Overlord:

Is there any chance you could go into more detail about this IP. ie. what you guys think it's origins or true implications may actually be ?

You can't drip information infront of us like that and not expect people to want to go for a swim


Thanks in advance.



[edit on 20-1-2006 by timb3r]



posted on Jan, 20 2006 @ 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by rdube02


Our team's living quarters, which consisted of several small buildings, contained electricity powered by a small box. This small box supplied all the power our team needed. Ironically, the electrical equipment our team brought on the trip worked using their power source only.


I've done a lot of work personally through the years with vacuum systems, and I find the prospect of "extracting" energy from a vacuum a little contradictory. The process of creating a vacuum within a chamber involves mechanical and/or diffusion pumps (at least for us lowly earthlings) - so you would have to be able to extract significant energy from the vacuum to make up for this loss of energy in order to create the vacuum in the first place. Without more data it's hard to say - although I'd love to read any of the scientists notes regarding how they might have extracted energy from the vacuum...


Hi rdube02,

This may (or may not) be possible - check out this link about zero point energy as predicted by quantum mechanics.

Poon



posted on Jan, 20 2006 @ 05:54 PM
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Harry S Truman

Thirty-Third President (33rd)
1945-1953

Born: May 8, 1884 in Lamar, Missouri

Died: December 26, 1972 in Independence, Missouri


Truman knew what happened at Roswell, JFK had received (was leaked to him through a certain source) some information about some Truman documents (Roswell disposition files,ie where they took the stuff) residing in the Truman Personal Presidentail Files that were protected by the NSA. JFK felt the public deserved to know the truth. The NSA felt that JFK was a liability.

Hoover and Johnson knew about the coverup but I dont think either one knew the exact case of Roswell. There discussion about JFK is in regards to the NSA and security detachments being ordered around and false itineraries...

Besides President Bush senior, Truman was the only other presdient to know the truth about Roswell.

www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk...

In 1951 he established Bush-Overby Oil Development, an oil-drilling business in Texas. Later he joined forces with others to create Zapata Petroleum Corporation. There is also evidence that he was working for the Central Intelligence Agency during this period. He also provided information to the Federal Bureau of Investigation on a proposed assassination attempt by James Parrott of John F. Kennedy. On 29th November, 1963, Bush informed J. Edgar Hoover about a conspiracy involving a group of pro-Castro Cubans in Miami.

(the pro castro conspiracy was a cover just as the following)

www.consortiumnews.com...

In early fall of 1976, after a Chilean government assassin had killed a Chilean dissident and an American woman with a car bomb in Washington, D.C., George H.W. Bush’s CIA leaked a false report clearing Chile’s military dictatorship and pointing the FBI in the wrong direction.

(Bush was a CIA man for more then 22 years and had made several bogus "disclosures" publicly he was Director of CIA for 2 years and a covert operator for more then 20 prior)

(See the connection Truman, Bush, Hoover, Dead JFK)

www.jfkmurdersolved.com...


Thirty years later the same James Parrott that Bush was accusing is working on Bush's presidential campaign against Bill Clinton.

Strange right, the day after.... and then the same guy 30 years later is working for him... wouldnt he be concerned that this guy might try and off him too of course that is if it was legitimate and what a great way to repay this guy for slamming him as a false patsy by giving him cushy money out of his campagin drive.....

Reagan's only connection to the "truth" about ufo's is that he was directly involved with making a training film for the NSA during the late 40's or early 50's about dealing with "exposed" people who needed to be reprogramed. This is the same type of film used to debreif the Rendleshiem (spelling?) staff that experienced the ufo in the woods on base.

And Carter happened to see a light in the forest that just so happened to be Red Blue and White lights.... (Red White and Blue) think a prank pulled at the expense of the President on behalf of the lions club.

In regards to the question about the space race, no that only had to do with keeping up with the Russians.



posted on Jan, 20 2006 @ 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by timb3r
Skeptic Overlord:

Is there any chance you could go into more detail about this IP. ie. what you guys think it's origins or true implications may actually be ?

You can't drip information infront of us like that and no expect people to want to go for a swim


Thanks in advance.



indeed, there is no need for secrecy.
too many people know the rumour, and if it's true, there are probably many email respondants / friends of mr ryan here who should be informed asap.



posted on Jan, 20 2006 @ 06:01 PM
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*BURSTS OUT LAUGHING*

okay, sorry, there WAS a long winded post here about something I thought was fishy about spooky people visiting my web site,,, turns out it's an ATS member who works for someone who works for someone who works for someone and wasn't really alla that spooky after all...

there may be some replies to my original post farther down the page that don't make much sense, sorry 'bout that, but I've decided to edit out my original post so nobody gets in trouble for surfing my web site while at work.

rock on
twj


[edit on 20-1-2006 by torbjon]



posted on Jan, 20 2006 @ 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by rdube02







10) The Eben's energy device was analyzed over and over again by our team. Since our team did not have access to scientific microscopes or other measuring equipment, we could not understand the function of the energy device.

But, regardless of the electrical demand, the Eben energy device provided the proper current and wattage. Out team surmised the device had some sort of regulator that sensed the required current/wattage and then supplied that specific amount. (Note: Our Team Members brought back two energy devices for analysis.)


This is one of the more interesting sections to me... Not so much because the device could provide the correct current and wattage automatically based on the electrical demand, but because of the statement "regardless" of electrical demand. I would have to guess that's an incorrect statement made by the observer. Unlimited power generation? Now that is a technology that would certainly be powerful for any nation to have...


-rdube02





Science Fiction Theatre

January 26, 1957

THE MAGIC SUITCASE A mysterious stranger leaves his suitcase
behind and its contents baffle the world of science.

Originally aired: January 26, 1957
Writer: Lou Huston
Director: Paul Guilfoyle
Story: William P. Epperson
Show Stars: Truman Bradley (Host)
All Guest Stars: Rachel Ames (Eileen Scott) , Charles Winninger (Grandpa Scott),
William Vaughan (John Scott), James Seay (Security Chief Miller),
Freddy Ridgeway (Terry Scott), George Douglas (Dr. Jorgenson),
Theodore Lehmann, Arthur Marshall

A young boy and his grandfather find a mysterious suitcase that appears
to be a power plant capable of producing an unlimited amount of energy.

In this episode, the kid first plugs his model train set into the suitcase.
Then the adults start plugging more and bigger things into it. Everything
works just fine, regardless of current or wattage.

[edit on 20-1-2006 by Theox]



posted on Jan, 20 2006 @ 06:21 PM
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torbjon, i don't think it's the coffee, lol.

my mr 'anon' says this story is bigger than this place is officialy letting on.



posted on Jan, 20 2006 @ 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by rdube02

I've done a lot of work personally through the years with vacuum systems, and I find the prospect of "extracting" energy from a vacuum a little contradictory. The process of creating a vacuum within a chamber (in the 10 to the -8 exponential micron range or less) involves mechanical and/or diffusion pumps (at least for us lowly earthlings) - so you would have to be able to extract significant energy from the vacuum to make up for this loss of energy in order to create the vacuum in the first place. Without more data it's hard to say - although I'd love to read any of the scientists notes regarding how they might have extracted energy from the vacuum...


Hi, rdube02 –

I'd strongly recommend you get hold of Exempt from Disclosure. There's a lot more about the Energy Device there than was posted by Anon, with an almost identical account of its features.

It's supported by four pages of leaked documentation which are shown (codewords POP STRIKE and ARC WELD). Someone with your background and experience would find it fascinating. Jack Sarfatti has just got hold of the book in the last few days and is absorbed in the physics – saying [paraphrase]: Why didn't someone tell me about this before?

Best, Bill



posted on Jan, 20 2006 @ 06:29 PM
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I have just recently filed a FOIA request to the DIA regarding Project Serpo. I'm not expecting to get anything, but heck it's always worth a shot. I've sent and recieved over 80 FOIA requests in 6 years to many different agencies like the Air Force, DIA, CIA, NSA, DOD, DOE, FBI, ect.

PS - Exempt from Disclosure is a good book. I suggest it also. I just wish these people who leak information such as Project Serpo would make themselves more "known" instead of just throwing out information that everyone is just supposed to believe. I'm also waiting for Dan Burisch to start talking...



[edit on 20-1-2006 by meshuggah1324]



posted on Jan, 20 2006 @ 06:29 PM
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That's pretty damn interesting Torb! What other explanation is there? O.o

My take on this whole thing:
Fairly neutral, pretty interesting read and you should definately read up about other related topics.
It sounds like a sugarcoated version of what william cooper was talking about! haha
Which gives me the thought, is this disinformation. Is it the truth about an exchange program, filled with nice stories about another world which will be proven fake which in turn will detract credibility from williams whose story is quite similar? Is williams the real one? The fact that william died kind of adds more varacity. Really going out on a limb there though, was just a thought.

I highly doubt that members of planet earth visiting a whole new planet, the most important time in history, would be so casual in their logs, as to say oh we have entered some sort of room, now we're eating mushy stuff that tastes like paper.

How did their friend fall and die? They seemed rather casual about this too, in their descriptions. Was he wandering around an unknown world all by himself and unfortunately tripped?

I do not find the ability for the aliens to set up a meeting time with us all that strange. It was only stated that they found it difficult to understand why we account for time in this way. Not so much as saying that they could not grasp the concent entirely. As everyone knows, time is a quite strange thing and if you have not been brought up to view it in a certain way, it would probably be hard to change your view of it later on.

Btw, only going by memory of what i read a few days ago, too sleepy to check up anonymous actual wording. Pretty poor research i know


I do believe it is possible to keep this a secret, even with the large amount of people involved. Like all undisclosed projects, things do leak and leak slowly, from various unreliable sources afraid of repercussions yet still human and perhaps have had a change of heart. This matter seems to be disclosing in the ways that many other projects have in the past. Hopefully it won't be the same as many others, and never be completely solved.

The absence of pictures is concerning, if i were in his position i would be planning the release of photos very carefully and surely. If I knew i was possibly the last link that could reveal the truth.



posted on Jan, 20 2006 @ 06:30 PM
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Originally posted by Theox

A young boy and his grandfather find a mysterious suitcase that appears
to be a power plant capable of producing an unlimited amount of energy.

Hi, Theox! Brilliant. I think this has to be my favorite post of the entire thread.


Best, Bill



posted on Jan, 20 2006 @ 06:56 PM
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This would be the email I used to send a FOIA request regarding Project Serpo to the DIA just the other day:

FOIA@dia.mil




posted on Jan, 20 2006 @ 07:37 PM
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Originally posted by T0by
That's pretty damn interesting Torb! What other explanation is there? O.o


Hi T; hi guys,

Mod Edit: Offensive comment removed.

I cannot and will not claim to be a scientist, but from the information provided thus far it is clear that it's not targetted at the Uni-crowd. All the info given thus far has been provided for the layman to understand; i.e. not for the specialists to run away with and mis-represent and disclose as meaningless junk.

Military minds are very seldom scientific minds, therefore is it not possible that the non-scientific info would come to the fore first. From my understanding we were about to reach the scientific parts of the 3000 page document. Could we be waiting for the scientific data to be interpreted into layman's terms? (just a thought)

Best Wishes

J


[edit on 20-1-2006 by ZeddicusZulZorander]



posted on Jan, 20 2006 @ 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by Bill Ryan


I'd strongly recommend you get hold of Exempt from Disclosure. There's a lot more about the Energy Device there than was posted by Anon, with an almost identical account of its features.


Best, Bill



Bill,

Strange coincidence, but I was just thinking that the "POP STRIKE"/"ARC WELD" ED materials could be featured on your "Consistencies" page...


[If Mr. Collins were to agree?]


Regards,

Serpentime



[edit on 20-1-2006 by Serpentime]



posted on Jan, 20 2006 @ 11:12 PM
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Has our "Rare Bird" flown south for the winter?






We LOVE you Anon!

Please fly home soon...


...Sing us your song again!!



Love,

All your loyal fans at ATS!!



Serious mode: Rebooting....



posted on Jan, 21 2006 @ 12:30 AM
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Originally posted by Serpentime
Serious mode: Rebooting....


If Anon is out there... I hope he saw that and is laughing, too. Then sends up a smoke signal or something.

If he's done, shouldn't he have sent a "kiss-off" letter?



posted on Jan, 21 2006 @ 04:09 AM
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I was thinking that Anonymous should bring up more data about the waste disposal system the Ebens use. To me it would be more useful!



posted on Jan, 21 2006 @ 04:22 AM
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Originally posted by Bill Ryan


So, let me get this straight, he won't go into detail about an "energy device" because he is concerned about national security implications...

Hi, celticniall – my take on this is that if the energy device exists ... then this poses a different kind of national security implication...

Energy is power... If this device exists, I can understand why it'd be classified... those that have access to this kind of advanced technology could rule the world economically.


Ok, this is a real problem. which also has other implications.
Would the men who decided not to share this energy source commit a crime against humanity? Today we may have to face dramatic climat changes in the near future, more and more people suffer from allergies.. because of all the pollution (mostly by burning petrol, ...)

If this serpo story is true, and the truth comes out, I would not be glad to be part of all those men who kept this secret so long. So I could well understand a "As long as I live I am not going to stand a trail against all the humanity by telling the mass we had a free energy device for 50 years sleeping in some military store".



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