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Originally posted by Valhall
Originally posted by jagzz
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
Smells like hoax.
Not to mention, the laughable claim that physics would be different in another solar system really hurts the overall credibility.
How on Earth could you possibly know or understand how physics would operate in another solar system, if you are going to go on a website like this you need to open your mind to different possibilities.
How much a given physical model can be reduced is what is in question here. Kepler's Law is a specialized, simplified reduction of Newton's Laws for a single central attractor acting on an orbiting body. The only argument here is that when you throw two central attractors within the model you must step back to the more general Newtonian laws, and not try to apply the simplified situation of Kepler's Law.
BUT, the PHYSICS still remain the same.
Originally posted by noise
Another point that should be made is that "Anonymous" does not seem to be well versed in scientific means. I think its safe to assume that he/she could very well be a pencil pusher in the government. Lets not rule out the possibility that he may not be using the correct terms for certain things. After all, according to his story he is just thumbing thru this book. He has even stated that he does not have the ability to explain some of the more scientific things in this book.
Now consider this: Even though each Team Member was taught the Eben tonal sounds/language, it was difficult for the Team Members to remember each tone and the use of other sounds with the tones. The two linguists on the Team practiced and learned enough to basically communicate, according to the documents I read. Posting 10, December 2, 2005
Somehow, I never knew this information, but a meeting date was set for April 1964 near Alamogordo New Mexico. The Aliens landed and retrieved the bodies of their dead comrades. Information was exchanged. Communication was in English. The aliens had a translation device. Anonymous' Original Posting -- Undated
I have never seen or read anything about the exchange program. I once heard a little bit of information from Linda Howe, but she didn't have much information. Original Posting -- Undated
My colleagues and I are discussing several different options regarding the release of this information. First, we must obtain proper sanction from past officials. Posting 5, November 13, 2005
Many have died, but we still have a few around. We are asking their approval for release. Next, we must obtain current official sanction. This may be a little more difficult. Current DIA officials have very little knowledge of this subject matter. However, we will move ahead with our plans. Our main supporter is _____ ______ ______ , a former director of __________. He is in our corner and will support our gradual release plan. id.
So... am I saying that this is real? Not necessarily. What I am saying, though, is that text that seems to contradict itself may not point to a hoax... simply because people routinely use language that is not precise.
Between the first message sent by our Earth-based team in the summer of 1952 to the first message received from the Ebens was about four months. We have no way of knowning when the Ebens received our message, how long it took them to study it and how long it took them to send it back.
Originally posted by Valhall
Does anybody have any theories on how this could be possible?
Anonymous says:
Between the first message sent by our Earth-based team in the summer of 1952 to the first message received from the Ebens was about four months. We have no way of knowning when the Ebens received our message, how long it took them to study it and how long it took them to send it back.
Roundtrip communication cycle completes in 4 months. Serpo is 37 light years away.
Originally posted by Boogie
To me too much just ties in with the "UFO folklore" that exists. A little is taken from here and a little from there and we cut and paste it together and come up with something new that still sounds familiar. I don't know if you can totally erase 12 people's lives (class photos with them in there, graduation announcements, family members asking "hey where did my kid go?"). It would of been easier to just say they died doing military "stuff"...which I'm sure Anon is going to say in one of his future posts.
Originally posted by Valhall
Does anybody have any theories on how this could be possible?
Anonymous says:
Between the first message sent by our Earth-based team in the summer of 1952 to the first message received from the Ebens was about four months. We have no way of knowning when the Ebens received our message, how long it took them to study it and how long it took them to send it back.
Roundtrip communication cycle completes in 4 months. Serpo is 37 light years away.
Originally posted by Byrd
Originally posted by Valhall
Does anybody have any theories on how this could be possible?
Anonymous says:
Between the first message sent by our Earth-based team in the summer of 1952 to the first message received from the Ebens was about four months. We have no way of knowning when the Ebens received our message, how long it took them to study it and how long it took them to send it back.
Roundtrip communication cycle completes in 4 months. Serpo is 37 light years away.
The simple explaination is that Anon is lying or Anon knows so little about science that he/she can't tell when their sources are lying.
No tachyons have been definitely found and most physicists would doubt their existence. There was a claim that experiments to measure neutrino mass in Tritium beta decay indicated that they were tachyonic. It is very doubtful but not entirely ruled out. Tachyon theories have problems because, apart from the possibility of causality violations, they destabilise the vacuum.