First off I have to say thank you for your input Valhall I respect your thoughts and comments with the utmost of consideration. I know sometimes my
thoughts do not come across clearly as I am running through words my fingers sometimes type words other then my thoughts... But let me address a few
things
Originally posted by Valhall
Translation, the "team" gets there then learns how to translate the EBEN language for the most part yet, for a good portion of 5 years prior to
their trip the govement has been communicating with the EBEN through a device that EBE #1 showed them how to use and over time they developed a loose
translation of the EBEN written alphabet tablet, close enough to correspond with landing co-ordinates and dates and times for the "visits".
I believe this is wrong. Unless I'm missing something, the device to translate Eben and English into text was not supplied to Earth until April 24,
1964 - a few months before the 12 left on their journey.
The first crash and subsequent EBE #1 occured in 1947 and if this account would be true that EBE #1 died in 1952 then he was around 5 years, during
which time he showed the Goverment how the communicator operated. He sent signals to their home planet "SEPRO" trying to arrange the visitation and
ultimately setting up the condition of the "TEAMS" visit. After he died our scientists tried using the communictor over the next 12 years with
limited success. It was near the time of his death or soon after that the translators (on earth) translated the message from his planet saying the
landing party would not arrive for another 10 years or more. During this time frame both planets exchanged different sets of data with limited
understanding of by each side. Finally near 1963 we had a pretty good handle on most of their information, But they on the other hand found our
langauge too confusing and difficult beyond basic noun and pronouns
The time frame from the first visit then the EBEN decide at that time that they would not take the team but on an additional visit, I think they said
was 5 months later in 1964 yet even when that ship arrives the travel time back to SEPRO takes 9 months, which would mean the second ship would have
had to leave already from the home planet to earth prior to the arrival of the first inteded ship to pick up the "team".
This statement is based on the assumption Earth would have been notified that the ship was already on its way. That's not necessarily a valid
assumption. It could have been on its way when the April 24, 1964 meeting took place. He states that the conversation in that meeting has not been
made public yet.
... the initial landing party arrived in 1963 at which time they notified us that the time was not right to take the "TEAM" back with them and that
they would have to come at a later date. But I believe if I remember correctly that the next date the April 24,1964 was less then the 9 month travel
time it took to get here.(added, he said the "TEAM" was sent to some facility for 6 months and was to not have any contact with the outside world
basically) Meaning the second ship must have already been enroute to earth at the time of the first proposed landing in 1963
These massive ships would have to have some sort of landing port on the home world I would imagine yet nothing is said of it.
Did they have a landing port here? If the Zamora/Socorro sighting is the same as the ships that arrived on April 24, 1964, then apparently they need
no landing port.
It is already assumed that the "EBEN" do not have a facility here on earth constructed specifically for them to land in. Having means to land on or
near our planet surface was adequate enough for a temporary stop.
The Landing port I mentioned would have to be on their home world "SEPRO" to refuel, load supplies, maintenance etc. I would imagine that these
crafts were built on the surface of the planet and not in space as there was no mention about complex orbiting stations around the planet. A kind of
way point before jumping on the interstellar highway.... added curiously enough this would have been an interesting tie in to incorporate the first
star trek movie when we see the enterprise for the first time in the orbiting space dock.... he threw in so many other movie details might as well add
star trek to the list too.... but no mention
They have complex industry and space travelling craft yet the live in mud huts lacking technological comforts such as modern cooking devices. Here is
an advanced society that went to war with space partical beams weapons whos intensity is enough to blow up a planet yet they have no refrigeration or
use any means of cooling for anything?
This is anthropomorphizing of another species. I'm not sure that being technologically advanced beyond our capabilities mandates they live in
something of the Jetson style. Maybe they got smart enough to figure out little was better and conservation was the future.
added.. with the mud huts yet some technology I think he is drawing on tattoine as his reference... Star Wars the skywalker home in the desert,
without the holographic communication device nor the modern electronic convienances.
So they have cars that levitate and have no wheels, interstellar space craft, particle beam weapons, yet there homes have no electricity, or signs of
powered devices and they put there waste excrement in a small box in a room of their huts, no sanitation system, no running water, no refrigeration,
no stores, no monetary system. Yet there is plenty of vehicles, which in turn must mean there is manufacturing of said vehicles which in turn means
there must be machinery to produce these vehicles which means there must be raw materials manufactured into components to produce these vehicles which
means there must be a transportation and distribution system to move and disperse these manufacturing materials and end products. Yet no mention of
roads or transportation hubs. No accounting devices to track materials or to account for dispersion no record keeping no documents no filing, no
personal tracking of data. And yet when the EBEN noticed that the "TEAM" was getting sick from the water they built a water purification plant. And
due to the amount of waste that the "TEAM" generated they built a waste processing site. Without knowing what harmful affect handling the human
waste would have on the EBEN. Building this sites must have taken tractors and building machines to erect these sites. But alas no mention of
construction workers. And better yet after he tells use that the EBEN made these sites he later tells us that the "TEAM" moved to the northern
quadrant where the EBEN found it in-hospitable yet the EBEN constructed a village for the "TEAM" to live in. So this begs the question then did the
EBEN then transport food and the now human purified compatible water to the north for the humans and then return with some stockpile of human waste to
be deposited at the human specific EBEN built human waste site......
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