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It doesn't surprise me that if somebody is in the know that they would want to remain anonymous.
Rick Doty first says:
"Some of us blend a few facts with a lot of fiction as part of our job to protect our nation's security. We don't ask questions. We do what is expected of us.
"Others", whose definition of national security may be different from ours, endlessly sift and resift our fictions in an effort to find the facts they feel are rightfully theirs. Yet on those happy occasions when they actually do stumble upon a real truth, instead of recognizing it for what it is, they immediately seek to transform it into something it isn't - something THEY want it to be. And this is good, for now it has become fiction again, and, although it may be wearing a new coat, it is as well covered as it was at the beginning. Of course, I am referring to the Tau-9 treaty. Mr. Burisch, the person of questionable intelligence and verifiable ignorance, claims its factual, but has never released it nor has he stated who signed it. There isn't one single reference to any treaties with ETs in any USG documents.
"We" all must do what we must do, Mr. Deppeller. And just as I have no obligations to you, so , in return, you have none to me. In that sense, some might think we find ourselves at a standoff - except for one small detail. As in all games, someone has to make the rules; and in this game, that someone is not you. For you, there are two choices. You can play on and do the best you can. Or you can face reality, recognize that the best you can do isn't going to be near good enough to win and save yourself and Mr. Burisch a great deal of future consternation by dropping out here and now. I have a great deal of information about Mr. Burisch that sits in a filing cabinet. But its time to open that cabinet and spread the "Word" about this Mr. Burisch. He cannot win. Mr. Burisch has been proven to be a liar and his released documents were proven to be hoaxes. I will air all this and let the public be the jury; and they lets see who wins.
Let the games begin."
Originally posted by Serpentime
"Serpo" is meant to appear to us as a tasty dish... but does it come with Strawberry Ice Cream on top, too?
Originally posted by Centrist
I suspect that, if this is based on authentic information, is that the Ebens have had the capability to traverse interstellar distances for 2,000 years. They may have moved amongst planets and fought a battle with a civilization within their own solar system prior to that.
Originally posted by Boogie
but once they got to Serpo they uh, made up some new physics and time so that they could mess with people's heads on Earth. (sarcasm off)
Good find HAL9000...I suggest you forward that to the consistencies page on Bill's website.
Originally posted by Rren
Even in the most theoretical FTL stuff i know off, there's no reason dilation would be sidestepped. Although i guess if you're violating relativity maybe dilation is moot... i don't know.
The only thing they have to spread is either what is already known, or more Serpo crapola!
Remember now: they believe in SERPO! Laughing
MY SUGGESTION? RICK DOTY WANTS HIS 15 MINUTES! SO, WHY NOT GIVE IT TO HIM? SPREAD HIS WORDS, FAR AND WIDE! Laughing COAST TO COAST, EVERYWHERE! HE HAS JUST ADMITTED TO LYING TO EVERYONE...AGAIN!
"Some of us blend a few facts with a lot of fiction as part of our job to protect our nation's security. We don't ask questions. We do what is expected of us. "Others", whose definition of national security may be different from ours, endlessly sift and resift our fictions in an effort to find the facts they feel are rightfully theirs."
Ladies and gentlemen, it has now come time, now that I have received a briefing a few minutes ago, to take leave of the internet. Anything that I say after this will just be used to twist the truth, by the lying cowards who feel they can moderate what you are ready to be told. They wish, quite simply, and this is verified by Doty's words, to be the mediators of what you are allowed to know. They will spread lies, lies admitted to already, as far and as wide as they can. But, they will fall short.
For those who know my private contact information, I will still be available.
For the rest, the appointed time comes.
HEY RICK, HAVE FUN PLAYING WITH YOUR DRAWERS! Laughing
See everyone in awhile!
This site (serpo) has interested me for awhile now, and this thread started off really well. However, now on the 33rd page, and even with Bill Ryan here, it has lost a lot of steam.
Originally posted by Centrist
More seriously, I think that we've reached a very interesting point -- we have two people promising disclosure (or, perhaps, two "groups") and disputes arising between them.... how much more dramatic can this get? You've got to admit, this is a lot more fun than leafing through dusty boxes of ancient documents scanning for keywords.
Originally posted by sexymon
I hear time and time again posters asking "human" questions about alien cultures. There is no human answer, just an answer, and for the majority of us, one that is misunderstood.
[edit on 12/16/2005 by sexymon]
former aerospace employee with a clearance. worked on many defense and related projects, but the most interesting being a project to file and archive much to do about UFO's and the like.....
Originally posted by porky1981
just post the pictures.
Originally posted by porsche2006
what do you think we'll get to see in these images?
Originally posted by Freenrgy2
What does everyone think about the images from the "Public Acclimation Program" handbook posted under the Consistencies section. If you want to ponder on images, what do think about these? Fake? A very good photoshop job? Is this manual for real?
I wanted to point out what's been going on with the "debate" over the Serpo vs. DB stories. Some time ago, within the past two months, certain of us found ourselves on a quite lengthy email list that includes some of the bigger names in ufoology. Even Rick Doty admits that he suddenly found himself on this list which was new to him as it was to me. I'm now under the impression that someone put us all on the same list in order to promulgate the Serpo story. Bill Ryan took up the cause with genuine enthusiasm (and complete but understandable naivete) when he offered to establish the serpo.org website, and Victor Martinez continued to be the point man for receiving the 'anonymous' postings.
I think that a careful analysis of this entire exercise will show that everything was orchestrated from on high (the Aviary) and believe it or not, they may have used the development of the Golden Thread as a model. There is ONE BIG DIFFERENCE: we are here as a result of an organic development, as opposed to having been 'brought together'. No-one put the original populants of Vol. 1 of this thread together artificially; we all found it first on GLP, of our own volition, and thereafter through the days on ED (before the stewardess of note decided it was her own personal fiefdom to tyrannize), a brief moment when Marci stepped in to the rescue, and finally to here, where we are evolving a working synthesis between 'inside' and 'outside' to help birth Disclosure.
Dan has said that Rick Doty "isn't part of the conversation"; that's true, he isn't part of this conversation, but he's been made a part of the larger conversation that will be taking place in the larger global consciousness. At least someone included him on their master 'list'. Since then, he's been attempting to maintain his high profile as an 'expert witness' in this struggle, just as George Knapp has. Well, as Dan points out, those chaps have had their day, and despite their fierce protestations, their mindset has been found wanting by newer energies.
The "Class of the 1980s" never graduated. Stanton Friedman, voted Most Likely to Succeed, succeeded in besting Phil Klass, true. He's still searching for a 'Bob Woodward' to uncover the 'cosmic Watergate', while Mr. Woodward himself has become the 'official court stenographer' for the present regime. Jaime Shandera; what ever happened to him? Linda Moulton-Howe, while given the opportunity of interviewing Dan, has recently admitted that it was her superiors at the network who pressed her to hand Mr. Doty an ultimatum [back-in-their-day] to have the then-current Administration go on record with affidavits to verify the claims that she, Linda, would then issue to the public. (If that were the case, Linda, what use would they have for you?). Mr. Doty abruptly terminated the nascent effort, as should have been expected. Bill Moore admitted to being co-opted and helping foist disinfo onto the public in his understandable effort to learn even more secret secrets, and therefore his word too has been discredited, just as Mr. Doty's was. Bill Cooper, once he rebelled, was coralled into funadmentalism in an effort to hold onto his sanity, but nonetheless ended up dead as a result of a shoot-out in the Wild Wild West, where Bob Lazar also ended up, retired in New Mexico having exploited his minute insight to its fullest. Too bad he hadn't taken the time to fully absorb all those briefing books up at the Ranch before taking the rash course of action. There were more in that Class, not to mention the bad boy Branton and Commander X, but the reader gets the idea.
The Class of the 1990s fared somewhat better, in that Dr. Greer was able to muster hundreds of gov't. witnesses that were and are willing to go on the record before Congress, if only the call would come. I heard many of them first-hand, having attended the Disclosure Conference that week in 2001, but that Conference was more of an Amway distributor's convention, and despite the many news crews that were there, nary a one of them was shown on American television....unless perhaps buried in the wee hours of cable. The only attention paid to it by the media heavyweights in print journalism was a light-hearted jab by a jokemeister, one Joel Achenbach, for the Washington Post. This should prove to the interested viewer exactly HOW controlled the seemingly-stupid mass media is. That vapidity is highly-contrived, of course. They DO know better, their puffed talking heads actually sitting in the gallery when the vaunted Committee of the Majority would meet. How can one fight City hall when even those that are professionally trained to do just that are on the City Hall payroll? Or rather, both they and City Hall draw their sustenance from the same "hand that feeds" (check out the new Nine Inch Nails disc for a great treatement of that concept).
So what am I leading up to? I was speaking of this carefully-orchestrated attempt to put us 'in the mix', either to see how we would fare in comparison to the Serpon(a)uts, or in a naive belief we would join in with them in promulgating a hoax which would then be exposed and having the DB saga flushed right along with them when the handle was pulled. Now I would suggest that we have at least won "Round One" in that these people are squirming about having Affidavits used as the currency for Disclosure. They argue endlessly about the tecnicalities and meaninglessness of those things, but the fact is as plain as day: if you are sincere enough to swear that you are telling the truth (as Dan has done) then you should have no fear of being dragged into a court of law for perjury. Here's the latest, as of 2:51am my time last night/this morning:
Rick Doty (to the 'list'):
“Tell Mr. Deppeller the Penalty of perjury does not exist until one is in a court of law.”
My reply (to the 'list'):
"My point exactly. The bamboozler makes every attempt to avoid accountability for telling falsehoods, which can land him in a court of law. If his statements are true, and the facts sworn to, there is no fear of a court of law finding his statements perjurious. If the nominal cost (between $1 and $2 USD per Affidavit, if not free) is a burden, I'm happy to pay it. This list could take up a collection if penury becomes a defense.