Originally posted by shadow watcher
For those of you who have friends/influence in the ufo community, why can't we get an interview with Victor for ATS?
QUESTION: Can you tell us a little about yourself -- how long you have been interested in UFOs and actively engaged with the UFO community? What do
you do when you're not running the UFO Thread List? Bill mentioned that you also run a political list? What's this?
ANSWER: I've been interested in UFOs since about age 16, or 34 years ago, when I first started seriously questioning the beliefs I had been ingrained
with as a Catholic. I used whatever money I had from my paper route to purchase books on the subject of UFOs; one of my very first was John Keel's
"Our Haunted Planet," of which I have the original edition. I also checked out many books from the local public library since I couldn't afford to
buy all of the ones I wanted.
Now all of that was in the early '70s. I didn't become actively engaged in the UFO community until I actually got online on or about 1997 and even
then, I was just Web surfing for articles on the subject. To this day, I've never been a member of any clubs, organizations, discussion forums,
online discussion groups, or participated in chat rooms, etc.
Instead, I would forward copies about UFOs to a very small group of friends who would in turn refer others to me. Years later, it snowballed into what
it is today: One of the most influential UFO thread lists in the country loaded with a "who's who" of Ufology and consisting of former and current
USG "black world" ops.
Because not everyone is going to be interested in the subject of UFOs, the paranormal and other New Age topics, I also maintain a current affairs
topics list. Actually, it would be more accurate to state that the current affairs/political stream list came FIRST and the UFO Thread List was born
out of that with those people wanting ONLY that information though there are some which receive postings from BOTH lists.
I presently have approx 900 on my current affairs stream list and 220 on my UFO Thread List.
When I'm not streaming articles about either of these topics, I'm a substitute teacher for various school districts as well as being a tutor, a
"reader" and an editor for various authors.
QUESTION: How long have you been running your UFO list? How did it begin?
ANSWER: I've been running my UFO Thread List since about March 2001 which was born out of my current affairs list. Many recipients didn't want the
generally bad news items sent them that they could obtain from TV and newspapers; news stories about UFOs and related subjects were much more
difficult to come by in the mainstream press, so many suggested that I stream articles ONLY about those topics, so that gave me the idea of starting a
UFO stream list only.
QUESTION: It's membership is a veritable "Who's Who" of the UFO and parascience research scene of the past 30 years or more -- how was it that all
these people came to be on board?
ANSWER: True, it is and I'm still amazed at not so much the number of people on it, but rather WHO is on it. A few prominent people in the UFO
research and "black world" intell community came on board initially via referrals.
Some of them wanted their views known on some controversial issues, but did not want their names ascribed to what they had written, so they sent it to
me asking me to stream it to my list in confidence and anonymously which I did without ever revealing the origin of the author. After I did that over
and over, those individuals referred others of a like mindset to my list where ANYone could approach me and 100% confidentiality would be assured.
Whether one is an online, print or broadcast media journalist, CREDIBILITY is one's single most valuable currency, so that is what's led to so many
joining my UFO Thread List and my receiving so many referrals over the years.
My coup de grace was when ANONYMOUS approached me for the incredible "Project SERPO" postings; he's on my stream list, but I've never revealed his
ID nor any hints of WHO he really is.
QUESTION: How long had the list been running before the "Project SERPO" material first came to your attention -- what was the sequence of events
leading up to and following this?
ANSWER: My UFO Thread List was running since about March 2001. Nothing out of the ordinary had occurred prior to my first being contacted by ANONYMOUS
on 11-1-05 with an incredible tale to tell, though he had been monitoring my e-mail streams for about six (6) months prior to officially contacting
me. Once he started posting through me, my list grew exponentially and, after every new posting, grows with many new "add me's."
QUESTION: Do you know who ANONYMOUS is? [Of course I'm not expecting you to tell me WHO it is!] I imagine that numerous educated guesses have been
ANSWER: Correct: Many educated guesses have been made, but I have NEVER tried personally to find out and here's why: I was always more interested in
the INFORMATION he was supplying rather than who he was. Also, if word ever got back to him that I was trying to ID him, he would simply have packed
up his bags and found another UFO list moderator to release his incredible story through.
QUESTION: Do you discuss UFO or "Project SERPO" material with any of your list members like with military or intelligence backgrounds? Do you get
the sense that they are just as puzzled and intrigued by the subject as the rest of us? Do you think the "truth" really does lie somewhere within
the labyrinthine halls of government?
ANSWER: Yes. In fact, I do discuss the "Project SERPO" material privately with many members of the intell and scientific community and while they
found it hard to believe at first, they have found/located others in the "know" who have told them that, in fact, such a program really did take
place. It's difficult to discuss it with the few members of the general public who are on my list since they don't have the necessary connections
and prior knowledge to verify any of the material.
However, the intell ops on my list are just as baffled as to WHY this material is being released now and what exactly it is finally building up to and
HOW it is finally going to be laid out in the "final curtain call."
QUESTION: Do you have a gut feeling about the "Project SERPO" material? Given the past adoption of UFOs for use by the intelligence services, it
seems difficult to exclude the possibility that this is, or was, part of a disinformation project. Again, have any of your insiders shed any light on
ANSWER: At this point, I have so much confirmation that such a human-ET exchange program project DID take place, that I'm not now presently
entertaining the possibility that it's part of a grand USG disinformation campaign.
Some of the actual details like of whether it was all men who went or 10 men and two women may be muddied, BUT the overall core story is true and
correct: That there was an exchange program which took place between 1965 -1978 in which 12 U.S. military service people went to live on an alien home
world for approx 13 years on a planet 38.42 light years away.
The CORE STORY is intact.
[Personally I've found the suggestion that the SERPO documents are actually real, but were generated some time in the past as dis- or misinformation,
to be the most satisfactory version I've heard so far. The Alice Bradley Sheldon story is most interesting, and I've put feelers out into the
serious Sci-Fi community for more biographical information about her.]
COMMENT: And if "Project SERPO" is based on Alice Sheldon's sci-fi writings, I hope someone will let me know ASAP!
QUESTION: Do you sense that there's an upsurge in interest in the UFO subject again, after a few fallow years?
ANSWER: Yes, there has been a sort of “malaise" over the UFO community for a while since the sensational revelations of Bob Lazar and then the
MJ-12 documents before that, but there's a renewed interest with the "Project SERPO" disclosures and those of former Canadian Defense Prime
Minister Paul Hellyer; without a doubt, these are the two (2) hottest topics in the UFO field.
Many thought that the Dan Burisch story would be huge as well, but it turned out to be nothing but a simple hoax, though it did acquire a fanatical,
cult-like following which remains small, but vocal and obsessed with Dan to this day.
Victor Martinez, 1st February 2006