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Project Serpo: Postings by "Anonymous" -- Breaking news?

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posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 01:07 PM
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I don't know if people check this or not... but the serpo page was last modified on:

Saturday, December 10, 2005 6:46:26 PM

I'm not sure what the modifications were... was the last post labled 10b? It's labled 10a now....

*shrugs*

also, my netscape thingy says:

Refering URL: (no referrer)

does this mean it's not coming from a Redirect??


rock on
twj




posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 01:09 PM
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Originally posted by jgbjgb


VICTOR: What idiot wrote this?! One must think in different terms of science, not Earth-based but Serpo-based science. Ebens were thousands and thousands of years more advanced than us. They had different forms of navigation systems, which I will discuss in great detail later, probably 2006.


Above a quote from the latest "disclosure from Anonymous 10b"

I find this from "Victor" a bit out of line in the sense that he (not Anonymous) will discuss in great detail later.....almost as if Victor knows for a fact already more than what has been "disclosed" by the Anonymous group.

I don't think Victor wrote this, I think it is a message to Victor from Anon. Victor is the moderator and always puts his comments in brackets.



and then the very last entry:



Enough for now; I must go back to bed. Keep up the great work.


Is this Victor or Anonymous "logging" off in such an "unprofessional" way?

I think it is also Anon, and don't know what to make of it. Sounds like maybe this is keeping him up at night.



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 01:22 PM
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until I see hard evidence...i.e., his eben UFO pics, I will not believe this game, or whatever it is.


Now that there is such a great promise of pictures, there's no reason to believe it until the pictures are released and examined. In fact, if those pictures aren't released in a period of time that can be explained once we know their source, or if those pictures aren't as good as Anon indicates, then this whole thing will be dismissed as a badly executed hoax.

Of course, all of the people who have tied their wagons to this adventure will have their reputations seriously tarnished -- Bill Ryan, Victor Martinez, Richard Doty. Sure, none of them claim to be the source and each has made various skeptical comments (i.e., CYA). Does anyone think that any serious researcher (take Stanton Friedman, for example) would let their names be associated with such a crude hoax, unless there was truly some evidence that they've been shown to interest them?



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by torbjon
I don't know if people check this or not... but the serpo page was last modified on:

Saturday, December 10, 2005 6:46:26 PM

I'm not sure what the modifications were... was the last post labled 10b? It's labled 10a now....

*shrugs*



10a has always been labeled 10a. I think a poster mistyped above.
I think there were some changes on the introductory page. None of the 'content' pages seem to have changed.



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by Centrist
Does anyone think that any serious researcher (take Stanton Friedman, for example) would let their names be associated with such a crude hoax, unless there was truly some evidence that they've been shown to interest them?


That has been the only question in my mind which has given me a small amount of hope that this is real. Supposely, the cream of the crop in regards to ufologists are involved in this email ring. All of their names can presumably be revealed. Needless to say, they've got a lot to lose.

Other than that, things are starting to smell more fishy by the day.



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 01:59 PM
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Originally posted by Shawnna
www.amazon.com...=cm_cr_auth/103-6905876-4375837?%5Fencoding=UTF8


Damn fine job finding that !



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 02:23 PM
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Thank you!

I'm grateful to all of you on this site - so nice to 'hear' others feel as I do!



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by timb3r
Granted, a channel to disclose this sort of information wouldnt include the national media of a country or countries - but you know what I meant


Yes, I knew what you meant...and I'm glad you took it lightly.
It was just something that had to be said...and you're right about credibility when it comes to who is presenting the evidence. By now, I don't believe anything the government says when it tries to come with excuses for problems. They've lied so much and have been caught red-handed so many times that anything they say, now, is suspect.



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 02:32 PM
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People keep stating that the photos need to appear immediately if they are to be considered legitimate. I disagree for the following reasons:

1) Sorry, but we are all on 'geek time'. This means that we spend more time on the net than most people and think in terms of emails being replied to within minutes instead of hours or days. If Anon is a 67 year old retired government bureaucrat (or something like that) you can be sure that he spends most of his time golfing. Hell, he's probably watching football right now. So... we shouldn't expect him to operate on our time. Besides, a few days have gone between each of these posts, anyways.

2)The news cycle: Big news is always released on a monday or tuesday. This is because it gets the most coverage (or, in the case of the internet, the most forwards) if it is released at the beginning of the weekly business cycle. If news is released on a friday or saturday it gets lost amid weekend activities. That's why governments always release bad news on a friday and good news at the beginning of the week. If Anon is real he'll want to make the biggest splash possible... which means he'll either release the shots right before the business cycle starts (on a sunday night, for example) or right as it starts (monday morning).

3)A time lag does not mean the photos are being faked. If, anything, I would expect a hoaxer to have his pics already faked before starting his website.



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by Freenrgy2
Or look for the site to become a pay site when the photos are released.


Oh damn! I didn't even think of *that*.

Yeah....that would be the straw that broke the camel's back, there.



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by torbjon
I don't know if people check this or not... but the serpo page was last modified on:

Saturday, December 10, 2005 6:46:26 PM

I'm not sure what the modifications were... was the last post labled 10b? It's labled 10a now....

*shrugs*


I think right below where the pictures are mentioned, he added the line that reads:

[BR: We don't yet know when to expect these photographs. It may be several weeks yet – possibly even in the New Year. We ask all readers to be patient, as we are ourselves.]



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 02:38 PM
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Sorry - looks like we were posting this at the same time. Note sure how to delete mine?


[BR: We don't yet know when to expect these photographs. It may be several weeks yet – possibly even in the New Year. We ask all readers to be patient, as we are ourselves.]

This is from the serpo.org site.



[edit on 11-12-2005 by Shawnna]



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by Hal9000
I think it is also Anon, and don't know what to make of it. Sounds like maybe this is keeping him up at night.


He was up so late because they were listening to the Coast to Coast AM radio show, from what was mentioned right before that. That's where all the "Good job"'s came from.

((it was a good show, too))



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 02:50 PM
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By the way, if someone would be willing to host the files, I don't mind sending them the C2C show that Bill appeared on the other night. I'm a C2C member and download all the shows to archive so...I've paid my dues, plenty.

And not to detract from any sign-ups at C2C, I highly recommend the $7 monthly fee to download the complete shows. The topics are all interesting, the hosts are super (c'mon, even Art Bell is still around from time to time) and the commercials/bumper music, etc is all edited out for smooth play on my mp3 player. I listen to the previous night's show on the way to work in the mornings. It's addicting...and you can consider this a tease.


Anyway, whoever...send me a U2U and I'll upload the files to ya.
Let me know



[edit on 11-12-2005 by Hydden]



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by Shawnna
Sorry - looks like we were posting this at the same time. Note sure how to delete mine?


don't worry about it Shawnna. We were answering 2 different questions anyway, I think.

Looks like you were answering when we'd see the pictures....and I was answering what had been "modified" on the site since last update.
No biggie!



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 02:56 PM
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Originally posted by onlyinmydreams
People keep stating that the photos need to appear immediately if they are to be considered legitimate.


I disagree with you. If someone had sure fire proof and was only concered with the truth getting out and not interested in the hype surrounding the story then why bother informing the public that you're going to post pictures? You just post them and let the public decide.

Making big cliams like Anon has of definitive proof, and now that they are saying that the pictures might not be posted until the new year? He might as well post claiming the goverment is onto him and he has to leave for a few months to be safe, cause this thing can't scream HOAX anymore than it already is.



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by Hydden
He was up so late because they were listening to the Coast to Coast AM radio show

Yeah, that’s right I forgot. I misunderstood his comment about going back to bed. He probably stayed up to listen to the show.



((it was a good show, too))

Yes it was. I may listen to it again if I get time. But I think hosting it here would probably be an infringement on C2C copyrights, so you should probably ask a mod first.

I don't know what to make of the photos not being posted till next year. Does this guy want to get this information out or not?



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by futureafter

Originally posted by onlyinmydreams
People keep stating that the photos need to appear immediately if they are to be considered legitimate.


I disagree with you. If someone had sure fire proof and was only concered with the truth getting out and not interested in the hype surrounding the story then why bother informing the public that you're going to post pictures? You just post them and let the public decide.



If he dumped everything out all at once even UFO enthusiasts would be freaked out (if it's true). Besides, from day one the site has said that Anon was interested in a gradual, slow release of information. His philosophy from the start, apparently, is that releasing everything at once would be a bad idea.

I will keep an open mind until we get charged to look at the pictures. So far I haven't had to spend one cent on that website. If the pics are realistic looking, there is no charge to see them, and the team member's journal has a lot of detail... people should be willing to open up their minds a little.

Besides... IF he is transcribing a team member journal... I would expect him to take a few days to compose his next post.



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by Hal9000
Yes it was. I may listen to it again if I get time. But I think hosting it here would probably be an infringement on C2C copyrights, so you should probably ask a mod first.


Oh, I wasn't implying that ATS would host it, I just meant privately sent to someone who could possibly put it up for grabs somewhere else....but if that's stepping on any toes, I'll pass. I love my C2C and wouldn't want to do anything to infringe on them.



[edit on 11-12-2005 by Hydden]



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 03:52 PM
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This supposed quote of the late Ben Rich on the home page of the Serpo site bothers me as well.




“We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity….. anything you can imagine we already know how to do.”


Why does Bill Ryan sensationalize the site with a quote of "dubious" authenticity? I would really like to read / listen to this so called lecture where the late Ben Rich apparently said this. Would a man with such high security clearance become a "blabbermouth" in his retirement years, very doubtful. "Googling" the exact quote indicate that various UFO sites sensationalize their material with this. Here it is stated that Ben Rich said it to a small group AFTER his lecture. This about the quote sounds more believable:


Wayne Busse wrote:
>
> For Ben Rich to become a blabbermouth in his waning years,
> is so uncharacteristic as to be almost laughable.
>
> In his last years, numerous interviews nearly always contained
> at least one " I can't comment on that.".
> For Ben Rich to suddenly leak significant information to an individual
> who would assuredly publicize it, requires a real leap of imagination for me.
>
> "Unnamed sources", is frequently a footnote synonym for "Bull---- "


And the game continues.....



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