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Project Serpo: Postings by "Anonymous" -- Breaking news?

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posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 12:05 AM
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Hal9000 i just want to thank you for the article on J-Rod, also do any of you guys know if there is already a thread for J-rod.


also this is completely a theory but maybe someone found him and well lets just say Anonymous never got to post the pics...




posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 12:28 AM
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Hmnn...

1. Anon never said that he would post on a daily basis. In fact... if he posted on a daily basis his story would be less credible. This is because:
a.Older people do not have the same 'must check email every ten minutes' syndrome that GenXers do.
b.If you're really a retired government worker who is interested in slowly leaking info out to the public you probably... I don't know... spend most of your day golfing or checking up on your fantasy football team. You guys have to think of Anon as a 67 year old man... not a guy who is on 'Geek time'.

2.Yes, there are links to books on the site, but they are pretty much links to books/sites by different authors... and they only occur when people ask for collaborating evidence. These are also books that are very familiar to the ufology community. The irony, here, is that people have asked for collaborating evidence. When those testimonies are linked to the same people who asked for them cry foul. It's a Catch 22 for Anon and the website's authors.

To be frank, I think that the lack of advertisements, in general, helps to support the story. If you look at the website with a fair mind... there are very, very few links to outside sources. If we are to reject Anon based on the few books he has mentioned... we also have to reject ATS.

3.Tracking the website back to the UK is no big deal. The webmaster has appeared on American radio shows and clearly identified himself as being British.



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 12:34 AM
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Originally posted by ATSGUY
Hal9000 i just want to thank you for the article on J-Rod, also do any of you guys know if there is already a thread for J-rod.

It's definitely an interesting read, and I never put much credibility to the story, but now I wonder if there is something to it.



also this is completely a theory but maybe someone found him and well lets just say Anonymous never got to post the pics...

We need to give it a few more days. I have watching the pattern of posts, and I would expect something in a day or two. The last post was after 6 days, and previous posts have at least 1 or 2 days between them. Something tells me that there is something causing the delay. Possibly the posts need to be authorized, or the poster could be leading us on. The next post will be the deal breaker. If it is another lead in, then this is probably a hoax. If Anon posts the journal and photos, it will be more credible and we will have to go from there. This is where we wait and see, I guess. All I can think of is ummm… patients is a virtue.



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 12:43 AM
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Once the public sees these photographs, even our skeptics, die-hard debunkers and those who claim that this is all a "non-event disclosure," will scratch their heads in total amazement! [They're not from a Hollywood movie set.]

— one photograph shows the entire Team standing next to an Eben home, with several Ebens standing in the background;
— another photograph shows the Team's new home in the north;
— another photograph shows an Eben village in the north;
— another photograph shows a group of Ebens playing their "soccer" game.

You'll love them!





one question what kind of cameras di they have in 1978?





[edit on 11-12-2005 by ATSGUY]



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 01:15 AM
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Originally posted by ATSGUY

one question what kind of cameras di they have in 1978?


[edit on 11-12-2005 by ATSGUY]


The team left Earth in 1964 (according to the story)... so we can assume that they were using cameras from that era. However... it's also reasonable to assume that they were using the most advanced hand held cameras that were available to US intel agencies at the time. I sincerely doubt that they were sent on a 37 light year journey with the cheapest cameras that could be found at the local drug store.



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 05:37 AM
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Originally posted by onlyinmydreams

3.Tracking the website back to the UK is no big deal. The webmaster has appeared on American radio shows and clearly identified himself as being British.



Did you read any of my posts ? As I stated, we know he is British anyway, this isnt the point, infact it's far from the point..... re-read what I've posted instead of clinging onto the hope that disclosure will come through some random website instead of the national media or proper channel.....



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 05:42 AM
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Anyway, I've sent an email to Bristol University to confirm if Bill Ryan did actually graduate in 1974 in Mathematics with Physics and Psychology.

Because if you do the background work on the messenger, you get a chance at looking at the clearer, bigger picture.

People get so hyped in the actual story/information, they seem to forget that there is a self claimed normal person who's not supposed to be affiliated with any UFO group, suddenly posting potentially the worlds largest and single most important disclosure on a personal website.

And yet, no one finds that odd.....



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 06:27 AM
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People, as much as i'd like to see the pictures, it wouldnt surprise me if they were never posted.
This isnt the first time or the last time to suffer a dissapointment.


I hate hoaxes. This better be true.



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 07:43 AM
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Originally posted by timb3r
re-read what I've posted instead of clinging onto the hope that disclosure will come through some random website instead of the national media or proper channel.....


National media? You've got to be kidding! hehe
It is pretty safe to say that national media only exposes what it's allowed to expose from the government for fear of committing some sort of national security violation. It's still ridiculous to assume that UFO/aliens are here ONLY for the country they're spotted in, but the government, here, seems to think that it's treason (or whatever) to talk about the subject to civilians.

It's all ego. Governments always need to one-up their people so they feel more elite and the funny thing is, the best excuse I've ever heard of why they won't openly admit it's happening, is because they know they have no control over it...so they ignore it, kind of like the pink elephant in the room. And even though they'll lean over and talk to the elephant every now and then, they know deep down that the elephant still has ultimate control of the situation.

....not to mention the fact that if they ever finally said they've known about UFO's for this long, any kind of trust that the few people have of our government will be shattered, no matter *what* excuse they come up with.

"What ELSE do you know that you're not telling us about, Big Brother?!?!"



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by Hydden

Originally posted by timb3r
re-read what I've posted instead of clinging onto the hope that disclosure will come through some random website instead of the national media or proper channel.....


National media? You've got to be kidding! hehe
It is pretty safe to say that national media only exposes what it's allowed to expose from the government for fear of committing some sort of national security violation. It's still ridiculous to assume that UFO/aliens are here ONLY for the country they're spotted in, but the government, here, seems to think that it's treason (or whatever) to talk about the subject to civilians.

It's all ego. Governments always need to one-up their people so they feel more elite and the funny thing is, the best excuse I've ever heard of why they won't openly admit it's happening, is because they know they have no control over it...so they ignore it, kind of like the pink elephant in the room. And even though they'll lean over and talk to the elephant every now and then, they know deep down that the elephant still has ultimate control of the situation.

....not to mention the fact that if they ever finally said they've known about UFO's for this long, any kind of trust that the few people have of our government will be shattered, no matter *what* excuse they come up with.

"What ELSE do you know that you're not telling us about, Big Brother?!?!"



My point was that if "someone in authority", regardless of country, wanted to release this information to the general public, they would have to choose a mass channel, not a specialist one. Afterall, if you think about it, people who don't think about UFO's or the paranormal look down upon the people who do. Why ? Because there are so many nutjobs out there who make us all look bad; people who seek attention, money, fame or are just plain bonkers - they've unfortunately set the standard to how the general public really look upon people who research most unexplained phenomena.

For instance, say they took David Ike to Area 51 and say they really do have recovered alien craft/reverse engineered technology and then Ike'y baby takes this information to the world. Who will believe him ? The masses won't, but the die-hards or the people who don't think he's mad will quite happily lap it up and the information almost worthless, because the person providing the evidence isnt taken seriously.

The same could be said about Bill Ryan, but we don't know yet. No one seems to know anything about him and that's what I'm trying to find out




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Granted, a channel to disclose this sort of information wouldnt include the national media of a country or countries - but you know what I meant



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 10:22 AM
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People get so hyped in the actual story/information, they seem to forget that there is a self claimed normal person who's not supposed to be affiliated with any UFO group, suddenly posting potentially the worlds largest and single most important disclosure on a personal website.

And yet, no one finds that odd.....


No. It's odd, alright
As I said a few days ago...



A military unit within the DIA acting as a courier to (no offense to Bill Ryan)... but to Bill Ryan? Rather than try to speculate further on what they'll do to get out of this apparent jam, I decided to look into who Bill Ryan was and what he's published in the past. The only thing I could find was this article, which makes me wonder why they chose him?


Good work to those of you tracking down the info about the domain and Billy Ryan's background. I'm still not sure what to make, if anything, of it.

I have confirmed that Victor Martinez's list is what they say it is, although no one had verified the members of the list. Given that they claim it to be 150 people strong, I'm surprised that there's not more public condemnation of the story, unless there's information on the list that we don't have and the members have agreed to allow Serpo.org to be the sole source of disclosure.

Then again, there are some Ufologists who might feel as though they deserve a more active role when "disclosure" finally comes, so I'm wondering why there hasn't been anyone speaking out on this.

Count me down as another one who won't be surprised if the photos are never revealed and this whole thing fades into osbscurity.



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 11:04 AM
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Or look for the site to become a pay site when the photos are released.



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by Centrist

Then again, there are some Ufologists who might feel as though they deserve a more active role when "disclosure" finally comes, so I'm wondering why there hasn't been anyone speaking out on this.



Likely because Ufologists are not paying any attention.

The first thing I thought when I first read about this " Anonymous " person was that everything the guy is saying is absolutely worthless.

1. The guy is "anonymous".

2. The "anonymous" guy has "Anonymous" documents.

3. We don't have the documents to examine for ourselves.

4. We have to rely on an "Anonymous" person and his opinions about his "Anonymous" documents.

Unless the guy can make these documents available for public scrutiny there is nothing to this story.



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 11:53 AM
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Hopefully the pictures have been on their way for some time, and not just being posted because this story has gotten a lot of interested followers.

I find the story intruiging, but we have seen quite a few scams as this one in the recent years..

I expect the pictures to be pretty bad, and a lot of stuff in them could be anything.



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 12:00 PM
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It surprises me to some degree how negative people become because this 'disclosure' (if that's what it turns out to be) isn't happening the way they think it should go. Please bear in mind that this whole thing is a very new event. We have very little knowledge of who is involved on the inside, the source of the information, what's behind its release, how the information is being obtained, etc. This Serpo Project, if it exists, has been ongoing for 50+ years. Imagine the amount of information and layers of internal processes that are/have been in place for its security and storage. We can't possibly know at this stage the process involved with getting it. Whay are these particular individuals involved? Who knows. Becasue they were deemed the best solution for those on the inside for reasons only they know? It doesn't take a statistician to know that the odds of this being for real are astronomical (no pun). But especially here we need to patiently wait for this thing to play-out and be vetted or implode. It will happen soon enough.



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 12:22 PM
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VICTOR: What idiot wrote this?! One must think in different terms of science, not Earth-based but Serpo-based science. Ebens were thousands and thousands of years more advanced than us. They had different forms of navigation systems, which I will discuss in great detail later, probably 2006.


Above a quote from the latest "disclosure from Anonymous 10b"

I find this from "Victor" a bit out of line in the sense that he (not Anonymous) will discuss in great detail later.....almost as if Victor knows for a fact already more than what has been "disclosed" by the Anonymous group.

and then the very last entry:



Enough for now; I must go back to bed. Keep up the great work.


Is this Victor or Anonymous "logging" off in such an "unprofessional" way?

I do "wish" we can believe this saga, but unfortunately get the feeling someone is playing games with us and is preparing us for another new book that's coming up.....if the photos are actually published and they are authentic, our skepticism will be reduced considerably.

You know the song: " Why are we waiting, getting......"

By the way Centrist - great work!



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by onlyinmydreams

Originally posted by ATSGUY

one question what kind of cameras di they have in 1978?


[edit on 11-12-2005 by ATSGUY]


The team left Earth in 1964 (according to the story)... so we can assume that they were using cameras from that era. However... it's also reasonable to assume that they were using the most advanced hand held cameras that were available to US intel agencies at the time. I sincerely doubt that they were sent on a 37 light year journey with the cheapest cameras that could be found at the local drug store.


This reminds me of the supposed alien autopsy film. How much time do you have between finding a dead alien and performing an autopsy? You're telling me you can't keep the guy on ice for long enough to get at least 3 or 4 of the highest quality color cameras? Instead, you have to use a single piece of crap b&w, fixed focus camera? I don't buy it.

So I agree. If the pictures we see aren't from state-of-the-art cameras circa 1964 or they aren't in focus then we should all have a good chuckle at how lame the hoax is.



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 12:43 PM
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until I see hard evidence...i.e., his eben UFO pics, I will not believe this game, or whatever it is.



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 12:56 PM
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It appears a "Bill Ryan" from England reviewed "Exempt from Disclosure" on December 2, 2005???

Coincidence????



posted on Dec, 11 2005 @ 12:56 PM
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www.amazon.com...=cm_cr_auth/103-6905876-4375837?%5Fencoding=UTF8



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