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Originally posted by xmotex
I think the USMC, namely the SOC MEU's, still use the M1911 A1.
Originally posted by HowlrunnerIV
Spec ops of the calibre of Delta can choose any weapon they want for any mission they want, as long as they can a) use it and b) justify it.
Witness Randy Shughart in Mogadishu using an M14 in .30cal/7.62NATO instead of an M16 variant.
Originally posted by Winchester Ranger T
Military history has shown us time and time again that the MOST effective handgun rounds use large, heavy bullets moving at modest velocities.
Originally posted by Lonestar24
And BTW, the HK MP7 is optimized for the 4.6X30mm PDW round. The 5.7x28mm you quote cartridge for the FN P90.
Originally posted by orangetom1999
I wouldnt get all excited over a 17 round .45ACP handgun. One of the problems with these and even large frame revolvers is can one satisfactorily handle a weapon like this. They are heavy when you load them with 17 rounds of .45ACP ammo. Like alot of stuff ..this looks good on paper but not practical for the bulk of peoples. This is one of the reasons they looked at the 9mm in the first place.
Originally posted by Captain_Sensible
Originally posted by Browno
If the US Military is going back to the .45 ACP, They should look at these!!!!!
Whoah there, those are seriously hardcore!
The .45 model can carry 17 rounds?!?
"Thatsa spicy meataball!"
Originally posted by SurfDiveSail
I'm with ch1466. The pistol is a special forces/officers weapon that has sweet FA use in a squad.
For officers, all they are going to do with it is wear it and wave it, whatever the calibre is, so what we're looking at here is which round is best for SF. The .45 is excellent; Lots of stopping power with subsonic velocity. The 9mm parabellum on the other hand, is all over the place; pretty much every subgun in production is chambered for it. A special forces team, operating long term, deep in enemy territory will find it easier to procure 9mm ammo than .45. The .45 may be more effective, but the 9mm is more practical.
In the end, it's the soldier's choice. For a short, fast stealthy mission they might choose a .45, maybe the Mk.23, maybe the USP Tactical, maybe whatever else they prefer. For a longer insertion they might choose a 9mm of thier preference. Or they might not.
Ultimately, SF soldiers will do what they damn well want, and the opinions of us armchair experts will affect them not at all.
If it doeth unto the enemy before they doeth unto you, do you really care about the number on the cartrige?