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Above Top Secret War Game Scenario

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posted on Dec, 4 2005 @ 01:30 AM
US Forces in the Pacific are returned to Condition Yellow, Weapons Tight. Uss Lincoln and Nimitz and groups are diverted to Pearl Harbor, and all aircraft are stood down. F/A-22s, and F-15Es are still deploying to Okinawa for exercises with Korea.

posted on Dec, 4 2005 @ 01:30 AM
North Korea requests details of agreement.

posted on Dec, 4 2005 @ 01:35 AM
NK, the PRC will contact you through secure diplomatic channels (U2U).

All Chinese forces in pacific ocean have stood down or are standing down, Chinese combat air partols have now backed off to 50 miles outside of US no-fly zone, 250 miles away from BG. Chinese surface fleet has halted in Yellow Sea and is maintained position. The two PLA-N HK Subs have turned back for base.

50 per cent of ground based figheters on Chinese mainland still remain on 5 minute alert, and no radar stations have stood down.

posted on Dec, 4 2005 @ 01:37 AM
US P-3 and E-3 patrols are continuing, and LA SSNs have been pulled back to near the CBGs and are continuing to watch for any sign of non-US SSNs in the area.

posted on Dec, 4 2005 @ 01:54 AM
The PRC shuts off 50 per cent of its ground based EWR stations.

The PRC also requests that the US submit a formal apology to the United Nations Assembly, apologising for its unlawful actions in International Waters.

posted on Dec, 4 2005 @ 01:56 AM
The US will abide by the agreement with the PRC, but still insists on the right to defend our carriers by any and all means necessary and refuses to submit an apology to the UN.

posted on Dec, 4 2005 @ 02:01 AM
The PRC accepts this (grudgingly) and let's the Imperialists slip this once.

Good fun, heh? No war is better than a war, don't you think, everyone?

posted on Dec, 4 2005 @ 02:02 AM
I'm having a BLAST. You shoulda seen me here scrambling trying to think of SOMETHING to keep from pulling the trigger.

posted on Dec, 4 2005 @ 02:04 AM

Originally posted by howmuchisthedoggy
Come on chinawhite! All the rest of you!!

Named me

I would but it would be very embarrasing for chinese forces becauses of the difference in technology/funding between the two forces.

One side we have nearly one third of the worlds richest countries and one the other we have a small isolated country and a up and coming power(both third world countries).


Anyway im in

EDIT::: Can i still join?

[edit on 4-12-2005 by chinawhite]

posted on Dec, 4 2005 @ 02:25 AM
so is this over or wat? wat happens now?

posted on Dec, 4 2005 @ 02:29 AM
Well, I think LiquidationOfDiscrepancy has already got enough points off of this thread. Should we call it quits, or is there still some lingering resentment?

posted on Dec, 4 2005 @ 02:31 AM
there's still a lot that can happen. There's still South and North Korea, and Japan to worry about. It's only the US and China that have a temporary agreement.

posted on Dec, 4 2005 @ 02:33 AM
NK remains on high alert and is extremely concerned with troop movements in SK, the possible upcoming war games between Japan, US, and SK.

Troops will remain at a high state of readiness and continues its support of China. Seveal subs have returned to port, others maintain coastal patrol, while others are conducting far reaching recon missions.

The Air Force continues to patrol the skies and the our airspace demands remain the same, any incursion into NK space will be considered an act of war by South Korea.

posted on Dec, 4 2005 @ 02:33 AM
OOC : china requests details of " secret agreement "

[ diplomatic protest ] PRC condems the japanese for mining sealanes

demands that full m mine maps and tech specs of weapons deployed be made public

[ POINT OF ORDER ] can we have a map update of jap mine laying

[ press ] headline " japs attempt to sink ships "

[ IAEC investigation ] THE PRC formal requests that the IAEC conducts a FULL audit of all japanese nuclear facilities and programs , in light of japans recent outbursts .

PRC will under absoltly NO circumstances tolerate vilotions of japans constitution or treaty obligations in this area

[ press ] headline " japanese nuke threats "

[ freindly exercises invitation ] in a move to calm international tensions - the PRC extends the olive branch to great britain - inviting RN units to participate in exersise " stoic emperor " - an exercise scheduled to test the responses of a major port city to seaborn terrorism - in this case shanghai

posted on Dec, 4 2005 @ 02:36 AM
18 F/A-22s and 12 F-15Es arrive in Okinawa for exercises with SK. Several Patriot PAC-III, I-Hawk, and Avenger systems arrive in Taiwan, SK, and Japan.

[edit on 12/4/2005 by Zaphod58]

posted on Dec, 4 2005 @ 02:45 AM
foreign intelligence agencies intercept radio chatter between a chinese sub and the PLA navy headquarters

the discussions seems "heated"

posted on Dec, 4 2005 @ 02:52 AM
FYI - NK going to be offline for a few hours.

posted on Dec, 4 2005 @ 03:04 AM
US releases the LA SSNs to independant patrol shadowing any unknown SSNs, and watching for threats to the CBGs. All SSNs will remain in international waters.

posted on Dec, 4 2005 @ 03:24 AM
My List

About 5-10 years from now

Let me start this off with everyone knowing my disgust about the division of teams.

The chinese armed forces are called the Peoples liberation army(PLA for short). The ground forces are also called the PLA the Navy the PLAN and the airforce the PLAAF.

China currently has 2.3 million men under arms. 1.6million being involed in ground operations and support whilst the remainder being in the navy and air force. Currently chinese forces are under going extensive moderisation and reform which by 2010 we will see a much more leaner PLA but more high tech also.


The PLAAF is composed of 330,000 personnel. The PLAAF is in control of all airborne assets and Anti aircraft systems. The PLAAF currently operates 3,500aircraft and over 1000 SAM systems. It is going to be slimmed down soon and will have a lower pilot to aircraft ratio increasing the standard of training

Here is a brief break down on the aircraft and SAMs

J-10 - From engine purchases, we know that there are more than 40 J-10 in production or produced. Numbers for a plane like this is a big what if but my rough estimate is that by 2010 there will be 100+ in chinese service depending on more engine purchases on the WS-10A program

J-11- China has a confired figure of 90-100J-11s already produced with a possible 100 more depending if the contract is still valid. i roughly say that 70% will be upgraded to the J-11B standard

Su-27SK. A total of 76 aircraft has been confirmed. This is also a what if considering how well J-11B upgrades go. but i say about 70% of these will be upgraded

Su-30MKK - 76 of these multi-role aircraft have been confirmed and wouldn't recieve upgrades now or near future

Su-30MKK2 - This shouldn't really be included in this because it is a Anti-ship model and china is not going to get close to indias navy

Su-30MKK3 - It has been rumoured on the internet tat china will recieve its own MKI standard aircraft. But from all these new upgrades it seems unlikey that chian wil buy more aircraft but this cant be ruled out

FC-1 - It is quite possible that the PLAAF will recieve this aircraft. With all these new upgrades being rumoured it would be very attractive for the PLAAF to buy in bulk to replace F-6s and all early model F-7s and J-8s. This aircraft from its rumoured pictures looks pretty forminable. DSI and a little influence from the F-18 i wouldn't count it out.

J-7 - China has 500 of these planes which are upgraded and now able to fire AAM and do a little bombing. But it has very short legs

J-8II - This aircraft is still a mistery to me. What is the PLAAF going to do with this aircraft make more or leave and upgrade. 240 have already been built ranging from a primitive plane to the J-8H which fires BVR missiles.



FT-2000 / HQ-9 - This SAM system range of 12 ~ 100 km. The FT-2000 is a anti-radtion missile and is used to hunt AWACS aircraft

S-300PMU - Russian SAM china has brougt numerous launchers. A possible anti cruise missile function

HQ-7 (FM-80) - A low attitude anti aircraft missile with limited anti missile capability. range of 15km

HQ-2- old ass missile all with upgrade electric gear.



The PLA forces are divided into 7 military regions which are called the following

Shenyang MR
Beijing MR
Lanzhou MR
Jinan MR
Nanjing MR
Guangzhou MR
Chengdu MR

Here is a map
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The PLA is a large and mainly obsolete force consisting of 8,000 tanks, 4,000 armoured vehicles, and 25,000 artillery guns and multiple rocket launchers (MRLs). The PLA use to be focused on large numbers to overwhelm technolocially superior frces but nowdays like the other branches of the PLA are going through reforum and moderisation.

Chinas army is composed of 258,000 men trained to american standards with the rest supports this elite force. they are chinas RRU which leave to a crisis in under 24hours.


Type 98/G- This is the PLAs greatess tank. There are about 200 tanks in service according to forum chit chat. Stationed in the beijing military distict as a spearhead againest invading forces.

Type 96- This tank is the touted to be the main PLA tank for the majority of the PLA tank force. It is about the same standar as the T-98 but has a lower price and a little less sofiticated inside

Type 88/80 /Type 59/Type 79/69 - These tanks have about the same capability so i grouped them together(and because im to lazy). This tank is the back bone of the PLA tank force. Some are being upgraded some are not. And these upgrades will give any MBT a challenge


Anti tank missiles

The PLA has numerous ATGM in its arsenal and any invasion of chian will be met by thousands of them

HJ-9 - This is the PLAs newest anti tank missile with a Armour Penetration of 1,200mm. It is deployed on moblie platforms.

HJ-8 - The chinese milan. Not becauses its the chiense milan copy but it has similar cpabilities. Armour Penetration 800 ~ 1,000 mm

HJ-73- This missile has been involed enough to give it a new name. It has laser gudience on its newest version and a better warhead Armour Penetration: >500mm


~ The PLA has numerous speical force units and gets the most funding out of all PLA branches. They are well equipped for their operations and are well trained.

~ chinas 15th Airborne Corps is its paratroops. It has three divisions of 10,000Men and its not known if the whole 15th airborne can be transported at once.

~ The Marine Corps has about 14,000 groups organised in brigades.
A typical marine brigade includes:

* An armour regiment, consisting of two tank battalions (Type 63A amphibious tank) and three mechanised infantry battalions (Type 86 IFV and Type 63/89 APC with special modifications for long distance swimming)
* A marine infantry battalion (about 750 personnel)
* A special operations force battalion
* A missile battalion (HJ-73/HJ-8 ATGM and HN-5 shoulder-launched air defence missile)
* An engineering and chemical defence battalion
* A communications and electronic warfare battalion

Each Military region in china has 1,000 or more RRP under its command they are used for speical operations and are well trained.



The PLAN has been getting the most funding from the PRC government out of all forces. It has been getting two different versions of destroyers instead of having to go for one type of system each. It was a mainly submarine fleet but in recent years has been getting more and more destroyers and large surface fleets.

Surface Fleet

Type 052C- These are stilling being built as protectors for a future PLAN air carrier. It has 48 VLS missile cells and has the HQ-9 missile

Type 052B - This version has some air defence capabilities and has powerful anti ship missiles

Project 956 - This destroyer has the powerful moskit missile which is higly capble. It has a good anti ship missile capability

Type 054 - A new stealth frigate. Has average defence capabilites. It is going through a upgrade which miht invole a VLS system

The rest of the ships are old and i dont have time to write them up. But numerous anyway



Type 092 -Only one chinese SSBN. It has 16 1800km range nuclear missiles. old and nosiy

Type 091 - China has 5 nuclear attack submarines. Like the 92 it is old and nosiy. But has been upgrade so its not known their current capability

Type 877/636 - A russian built submarine named the black hole by Nato forces in the cold war. Very quite and a possible AIP system. has the Club missile system. china will have 12 submarines in 2006

Type 039 - A chinese subamrine which is very quite and has a possible AIP system. Has a modern Command and control system. Can fire Ashm underwater. more than 7 submainres with more being built

Type 035 /Type 033 - Old and nosiy but are still in use for patrols and such. Lots of them in service

China is currently building new nuclear submarines and a new conventional subamrine


I would expect that the main PLA attack would be againest taiwan so here is a list of chinese forces 500km from taiwan

Those unit are the following
1st Group Army (83011 Unit), Xuzhou, Jiangsu

* 10th Armoured Division, Suzhou, Jiangsu
* 1st Amphibious Mechanised Division*, Hangzhou, Zhejiang
* 3rd Motorised Infantry Brigade, Jinhua, Jiangsu
* 9th Artillery Division
* 5th Army Aviation Group (Helicopter)
* Tactical Surface-to-Surface Missile Brigade**, Shangrao, Jiangxi
* Air Defence Brigade (SAM/AAA)

12th Group Army (83226 Unit), Xuzhou, Jiangsu

* 2nd Armoured Division, Xuzhou, Jiangsu
* 34th Motorised Infantry Brigade, Anhui
* 36th Motorised Infantry Brigade, Xinqi, Jiangsu
* 179th Motorised Brigade ('Linfen Brigade'), Nanjing, Jiangsu
* 137th Specialised Landing Brigade, Pukou
* Artillery Brigade, Xuzhou, Jiangsu
* AAA Brigade, Huaian, Jiangsu

31st Group Army (32404 Unit), Xiamen, Fujian

* Amphibious Armoured Brigade, Changtai, Fujian
* 91st Motorised Infantry Division, Zhangzhou, Fujian
* 92nd Motorised Infantry Brigade, Nanping, Fujian
* Artillery Brigade
* 13th Air Defence Brigade (SAM/AAA)***

Shanghai Garrison

* 1st Coast Defence Brigade, Shanghai (Baoshan)
* 2nd Coast Defence Brigade, Shanghai (Jinshan)
* 3rd Coast Defence Brigade, Shanghai

Units Directly Subordinated to MR

* MR Special Operations Group
* Tactical Surface-to-Surface Missile Brigade**, Shangrao, Jiangxi
* Electronic Warfare Regiment
* 31st Pontoon Bridge Regiment, Nanjing, Jiangsu
* 14th Air Defence Brigade (SAM/AAA), Anhui
* Tank Training Regiment

NOTE:* 1st Amphibious Mechanised Division is the PLA's first armoured unit designed for amphibious assault landing operations. It is mainly equipped with amphibious tanks and APCs

** Nanjing MR deploys two tactical SSM brigades equipped with DF-11 (M-11) and DF-15 (M-9) ballistic missiles. These are the PLA's only two ballistic missile units under the command of Army, not the Second Artillery Corps.

***13th Air Defence Brigade has several AAA battalions and a SAM regiment, which controls 2 HQ-7 battalions and one Tor-M1 (SA-15) battalion.

The PLAAF have 4 Fighter, 1 attack and 1 bomber division in the Nanjing Military region.

And for the PLAN: one of the primary missions for the East Sea Fleet is to support the PLA in a potential amphibious landing on Taiwan Island. As a result of the worsening situation between China mainland and Taiwan since the mid 1990s, the East Sea Fleet has been receiving the latest warships and aircraft imported from Russia, including four Kilo class diesel-electric submarines and two Sovremenny class missile destroyers. A further two Sovremenny class destroyers are currently under construction in Russia, and expected to be delivered to the East Sea fleet between 2005 and 2006. The East Sea Fleet Naval Air Force is also equipped with the Ka-28 antisubmarine warfare helicopter and latest Sukhoi Su-30MK2 two-seat, twin-engine long-range fighter-bomber equipped with supersonic anti-ship missiles.


* Destroyer flotilla X 1
* Frigate flotilla X 1
* Conventional submarine flotilla X 1
* Fast attack craft flotilla X 1
* Landing ship flotilla X 1
* Logistic support ship flotilla X 1


* Destroyer X 6: Nanjing (131), Hefei (132), Chongqing (133), Zunyi (134), Hangzhou (136), Fuzhou (137)
* Frigates X 21: Shaoxing (510), Nantong (511), Wuxi (512), Huaiyin (513), Zhenjiang (514), Xiamen (515), Jiujiang (516), Nanping (517), Ji'an (518), Jiangxing (521), Lianyungang (522), Putian (523), Sanming (524), Ma'anshan (525), Wenzhou (526), Ningbo (533), Jinhua (534), Anqing (539), Huainan (540), Huaibei (541), Tongling (542)
* Conventional submarine X 7: Four Kilo class (364, 365, 366, 367) and three Type 039/Song class (320, 321, 322)


* 4th Naval Aviation Division, Luqiao (J-7B/E)
* 6th Naval Aviation Division, Dachang (JH-7, J-6,)
* Training Regiment (JJ-6, JJ-7)
* Shipborne Helicopter Group, Wuhu (Ka-27/28, Z-8, Z-9C)
* Special Mission Group, Dachang (Y-8AEW)

posted on Dec, 4 2005 @ 03:29 AM
OK i read the thread and it seemed to have already fnished.

Anyway i dont even know how to conduct a war games

[edit on 4-12-2005 by chinawhite]

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