Bush "We will not back out of the war as long as i am President

There you have it. No end in sight.

Surely, we didnt think there would be a timeline, did we?

I'm just sick over that which he calls a speech.

[edit on 30-11-2005 by dgtempe]

And if you wanted to read the report....

National Security Council Report

-DT

I watched for about 5 minutes and then got bored of the "Hurrays and very planned applauses".

The opening was very well executed, nice presidential background and introduction, well groomed and clean audience and occurs plenty of patriotism and approval.

Just like a movie.

Then the Blah, Blah and Blah of the president speech was lost in the splendor of the moment with so many groomed followers.

Yes Mr. Bush should be proud of his public relations crew they sure knows how to put up a class A show.

I wonder why Bush can not just walk on the streets in America and give a speech in front of real American people . . . specially the ones that elected him.



[edit on 30-11-2005 by marg6043]

I thought it was up to the American public and Congess and stuff, I thought that was what "freedom" was about? Being able to say NO to your governement is true freedom, no? So... does that mean that the US citizens are no longer free to determine their countries future? Does this mean that all their democracy really means is that they get to pick whoever is going to lie to them for the next 4 years?

OH! Thats right, they have given up the right to determine their countries own future in return for bad television programs! I forgot.

"Dental Plan!"
"Lisa needs new braces!"
"A free keg of beer for your meetings!"
"Dental Plan!"
"Lisa needs new braces!"

We were able to fold our governement here in Canada over a kick back scheme and about a million in questionable finances.. does that mean we Canadians have MORE freedom and democracy then the Americans? Does AlCIADuh hate us more then?

So whoever wins the next election will have to deal with the mess that exists in Iraq still.. long after Bush is gone? Does this also mean that the American public (who do not want the war to continue - with the exception of a few blood thirsty individuals who haven't figured out that basically everyday events we USE to call masacures are now daily occurences over there) has been completely betrayed by its whole governement?

Why isn't anyone speaking up for the starving Americans who all just lost their jobs at GM and have to pay outragous heating and gas bills (merry xmas) this season BECAUSE of Bush's war (not to mention the wiping out of an entire city because of cut backs to that cities infastructure to pay for that war)... how is it you are all not completely outraged?

Anyone who believes anymore that the public is in ANY control over its governement anymore is completely nieve and isn't paying attention. His popularity is so low that its dangerous for him to remain in office anymore but no one will "do" anything about him. How is this situation possible?

Its not that 30% of Americans approve of what he is doing on the job. Its that70% do NOT APPROVE of what he is doing on the job.

If you had a job and either 70% of the managers, or 70% of the rest of the staff didn't like you.. or 70% of the customers didn't like you, wouldn't you just like... save yourself the grief and go find a roll that you will be more appreciated in, a place that you'll fit in better? Wouldn't you? Of course you would, thats because you are sane... only the insane figure that things are going to get better in a situation like this.. that things could start "looking up any time soon". Thats crazy. Period. But for some reason, no one is firing this guy and everyone is allowing him to continue his destructive path which is destroying the country and the world. Thats crazy too.

Why is he able to hold on the white house with this attitude? There must be something huge being planned, and it must have to do with the police tactics in Miami... they KNOW something is coming, they just didn't want to trigger a terror alert this time "because we didn't want you all to think that it was because of slumping approval ratings.. we didn't want to be accused of that.. so we just put more police on the street to scare the terrorists instead" (sure) ... and its the only way for them to get out of this mess really is a major terror attack. Crazy thought. But with this attitude they must know that something is coming down that will make us all remember these times as the "good ol days".

This is all crazy!

"DENTAL PLAN!"

-VMX

PS: Is he hinting that the only way to end the war is to end his presidency? Does he need help with that? Is that what this was about?

Why isn't anyone speaking up for the starving Americans who all just lost their jobs at GM

What you really need to do is contact GM if you have complaints.

They are a COMPANY, not part of our GOVERNMENT.

There is a difference.

- One Man Short ®

[edit on 30-11-2005 by One Man Short of Manhood]

Really only a person with their head in the sand would believe that there was ever a chance of a pull-out before the end of Bush's second term. Honestly I don't think we will see a removal of troops into the first term of whomever gets the office after Bush and you can bet your hind quarters that when the removal happens its going to be a total mess. Were going to take losses up to the last flight out of Iraq with RPG fire chasing that plane down the runway.

I stood up and cheered when Bush said that. Finally he is standing up and being a leader again.

HELL YEAH!

Bush is a strong leader. Does he think that this is the war he should have fought thirty years ago? Oh wait a minute, YES HE DOES! His daddy helped him by getting him out of Vietnam service back in the 1970s. Bush says he served, but the military has no record of Bush Jr. and his time of service.

Originally posted by Vis Mega
I thought it was up to the American public and Congess and stuff, I thought that was what "freedom" was about? Being able to say NO to your governement is true freedom, no? So... does that mean that the US citizens are no longer free to determine their countries future?

Vis Mega, all i can say after seeing this and other of your posts is that you just do not get it. Your hatred for our president and you inferiority complex as a canadian cloud any objective thought you might have. And thats a real nice photo in you mini-profile. Real classy

Marge if you know anything about the military you would know that they always salute and cheer for their commander in chief, no matter who he is.

Now as for his policy in Iraq. I agree that we should not set any timetable, instead we should withdraw in a time of out choosing and when Iraq is ready to take control for itself. The current situation on the ground should dictate military decision not public opinion.

Can I get a V!
Can I get an I!
Can I get a C!
Can I get a T!
Can I get an O!
Can I get an R!
Can I get a Y!

VICTORY!

I saw this on CNN and I almost lost my Lunch.

I think W. should stick to being a Cheerleader and not a Commander in Chief - because when he #s up, the only thing that can go wrong is the Cheerleader Coordination and not the entire Planet.

What a Story - from Cheerleader to President...



I think US forces are gonna Leave Iraq when the Oil Reserves run out.
US president just does not have the balls to say it.

Can I get a V!
Can I get an I!
Can I get a C!
Can I get a T!
Can I get an O!
Can I get an R!
Can I get a Y!

And here I thought we were going to have a civil discussion, boy was I wrong. Go ahead continue with your lame attack at Bush’s past. When you want to have a real discussion, give me a U2U.

zoso:

Your hatred for our president and you inferiority complex as a canadian cloud any objective thought you might have.

Inferiority complex as a Canadian? Try Superiority Complex.

Nobody hates us except some people in the US (and who gives creedence to the ignorant, right?), we have a thriving democracy, national health care, porn on cable tv at 8pm, a strong dollar, a trade SURPLUS (imagine), no natural disasters to worry about, powerful beer, and are free to travel anywhere in the world without fear of being shot. Our biggest health crisis is NOT obesity, we have no death penalty, we can actually hold our elected officials accountable (and fire them), and we rank higher than the US in quality of life and education and literacy.

So, why exactly should he feel inferior?

Just asking.

I really did not mean to attack Canada per say, just get miffed at the people who go overboard with the anti US anti Bush stuff. However, i am not sure i would bring up your country's health care system and economy as shining examples.

PS- Love "the Dude"

[edit on 30-11-2005 by zoso28]

No one really hates Canada. It is honestly a lame old joke taken way too far by people with a limited cognitive capacity and a pugilistic worldview.

Allow me to speak for my impaired countrymen and say that I actually like hockey, I occasionally drink Labatt, and I enjoy the work of several Canadian-born comedians, actors, and musicians.

Originally posted by dgtempe
There you have it. No end in sight.

Did you think it would be easy? Did you think the Sunni's would throw rose-petals at our soldiers?

We are fighting some of the most vicious bastards on earth.......trying to give the good Iraqi's a chance at freedom.

Im proud of our good President, he made some mistakes (like any other Man), but I like him and one day we will all look back and see the good he did in the Middle-East....he brought freedom to millions.

Hell he freed millions of woman in Afghanistan and gave them the right to VOTE......funny dgtemp how you never gave President Bush credit for that.

Maximu§

zoso: But doesn't he say some truths? When did criticizing the decisions of your President become a crime.

People get arrested outside his ranch all the time, there are now "Demonstration Zones" during visits, when his (lack of) war policy is criticized people are called cowards, etc.


You're either with us or against us is what he said, didn't he? So if I'm not with him that means I'm against him. He said it, I am only goinf according to his wishes.

As much as you don't like people criticizing your Prez, the rest of the world doesn't like being bullied by a simpleton who, let's be honest, only ever made it to the office of the President because of his family and their connections... He's no diplomat, he's no orator (ha!), no intellectual, and he's no warrior. For me, he has no leadership qualities at all, in fact quite the opposite, he only inspires disdain in me, but that's a personal observation.

Originally posted by Jakomo
zoso: But doesn't he say some truths? When did criticizing the decisions of your President become a crime.People get arrested outside his ranch all the time, there are now "Demonstration Zones" during visits, when his (lack of) war policy is criticized people are called cowards, etc.

The people who are arrested in Crawford, Texas are not arrested for critisizing Bush. They are arrested for tresspassing on private land and for blocking the highway. A rancher who was simpathetic to the protesters cause offered his land to use but no one uses it because it is 1/2 a mile away from Bushs ranch.
As for him being a simpleton and all the other derogatory remarks that is fine, it's your opinion. Thanks for the civil discussion Jakomo. And love The Dude

'The American Dream' is turning into The American Nightmare with a quickness and nobody really wants a part of it anymore, I assure U.
Canada is the more appealing of the 2 now to most who were looking to move to the US.

In a nutshell ~~~>

Originally posted by SouljahI think US forces are gonna Leave Iraq when the Oil Reserves run out.
US president just does not have the balls to say it.

This is getting so tired ... He is really tired and I'm tired of seeing/reading about this and his #. Give him his freakin oil so we can call it a day ... and get to the next part of the agenda

Im Jaded, your name says it all. The american dream is alive and well. The american dream is not democrat or republican. the immigration #'s for the US and Canada disprove your statement