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Originally posted by interestedalways
My misgivings have nothing to do with the word Lucis and the relationship with Lucifer, it just seems like they want "you" or "us" to channel entities which might take your soul!!!!!
Originally posted by moonleaf
See it was never Lucifer Trust it was "Lucifer Publishing Company". Well, I guess that makes it okay?!
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
I disagree, as a student in the Arcane School of Lucis Trust.
Originally posted by siriuslyone
Originally posted by Cug
Originally posted by siriuslyone
I do not have anytime for Crowley followers, I have investigated all I need to know about him..as you surely are a satanist--------------be gone~
Originally posted by siriuslyone
You are very defensive, if you do not respect other's belief systems, there is no need to be nasty or childish.
Be gone? I have honestly answered your questions in the past and tried to be helpful and I get a be gone??
do Nice example you are setting on behalf of the Lucis Trust.
I know it is a nice example of AAB,Lucis as we shun devils and evil, but of course you would not know that......
Originally posted by siriuslyone
I am a vessel for the Grays, this is NOT a life one would choose if they had not agreed to it before this lifetime.
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When out of body, the Grays will accompany me to any place I wish and yes the spaceship Pluto is and as well as the constellation of Canis Majora.
Not all members of the White Lodge are human and it is a error to 'see' them that way..
Originally posted by Tamahu
Next thing you know they're going to say that Buddha was from outer-space.
Originally posted by Nameless Hussy
On another note, this post sheds some light onto a dream I recently had, where I was walking around a swanky hotel with all black and red decor, and the lighting was all red as well, looking for my lost backpack... near the end, I passed a beautiful glass sign that was also back lit by a red light, and etched into the glass was "LUCIS". That dream was odd on so many levels...
I disagree, as a student in the Arcane School of Lucis Trust.
Servers are entirely neutral. They will not vow for or against something, as initiates know and see the 'good' there is in 'evil'. They do not judge. They are not 'Lightworkers' in the modern New Age sense, although they work with Light, they are no 'Darkworkers', although they would act in a way others would deem negative if it's needed in a situation. They are Workers. Servers.
On Crowley: there is a strong First Ray message in his earliest little work about his Law. Do As Thou Willst, very true. On personality level I feel he's exaggerated a bit, and adapted some behaviour I would not like to commit to. But he gave way to a revival of an old symbolic, ritual kind of thinking, which has its value. It should not be viewed too lightly, let alone put in practize without enough power and experience to harness the energies. It's working with lower elementals...they tend to be stubborn...
LODGES OF MAGIC: Article by H. P. Blavatsky
There is a secret body--whose diploma, or Certificate of Membership, is held by Colonel Olcott alone among modern men of white blood--to which that name was given by the author of "Isis Unveiled" for convenience of designation,2 but which is known among Initiates by quite another one, just as the personage known to the public under the pseudonym of "Koot Hoomi," is called by a totally different name among his acquaintance. What the real name of that society is, it would puzzle the "Eulian" phallicists of the "H. B. of L." to tell. The real names of Master Adepts and Occult Schools are never, under any circumstances, revealed to the profane; and the names of the personages who have been talked about in connection with modem Theosophy, are in the possession only of the two chief founders of the Theosophical Society. And now, having said so much by way of preface, let us pass on to our correspondent's letter. He writes:
"A friend of mine, a natural mystic, had intended to form, with others, a Branch T.S. in his town. Surprised at his delay, I wrote to ask the reason. His reply was that he had heard that the T.S. only met and talked, and did nothing practical. I always did think the T.S. ought to have Lodges in which something practical should be done. Cagliostro Understood well this craving of humans for something before their eyes, when he instituted the Egyptian Rite, and put it in practice in various Freemason lodges. There are many readers of LUCIFER in __________ shire. Perhaps in it there might be a suggestion for students to form such lodges for themselves, and to try, by their united wills, to develop certain powers in one of the number, and then through the whole of them in succession. I feel sure numbers would enter such lodges, and create a great interest for Theosophy."
"A."
In the above note of our venerable and learned friend is the echo of the voices of ninety-nine hundredths of the members of the Theosophical Society: one-hundredth only have the correct idea of the function and scope of our Branches. The glaring mistake generally made is in the conception of adeptship and the path thereunto. Of all thinkable undertakings that of trying for adeptship is the most difficult. Instead of being obtainable within a few years or one lifetime, it exacts the unremittent struggles of a series of lives, save in cases so rare as to be hardly worth regarding as exceptions to the general rule. The records certainly show that a number of the most revered Indian adepts became so despite their births in the lowest, and seemingly most unlikely, castes. Yet it is well understood that they had been progressing in the upward direction throughout many previous incarnations, and, when they took birth for the last time, there was left but the merest trifle of spiritual evolution to be accomplished, before they became great living adepts. Of course, no one can say that one or all of the possible members of our friend "A." 's ideal Cagliostrian lodge might not also be ready for adeptship, but the chance is not good enough to speculate upon:
Western civilization seems to develop fighters rather than philosophers, military butchers rather than Buddhas. The plan "A." proposes would be far more likely to end in mediumship than adeptship.
Two to one there would not be a member of the lodge who was chaste from boyhood and altogether untainted by the use of intoxicants. This is to say nothing of the candidates' freedom from the polluting effects of the evil influences of the average social environment. Among the indispensable pre-requisites for psychic development, noted in the mystical Manuals of all Eastern religious systems, are a pure place, pure diet, pure companionship, and a pure mind. Could "A." guarantee these? It is certainly desirable that there should be some school of instruction for members of our Society; and had the purely exoteric work and duties of the Founders been less absorbing, probably one such would have been established long ago. Yet not for practical instruction, on the plan of Cagliostro, which, by-the-bye, brought direful suffering upon his head, and has left no marked traces behind to encourage a repetition in our days. "When the pupil is ready, the teacher will be found waiting," says an Eastern maxim. The Masters do not have to hunt up recruits in special __________ shire lodges, nor drill them through mystical non-commissioned officers: time and space are no barriers between them and the aspirant; where thought can pass they can come. Why did an old and learned Kabalist like "A." forget this fact?
Peace The Fifth
The likes of Manly P. Hall, Samael Aun Weor, and Rudolf Steiner would say that H.P. Blavatsky, rather than performing seances to attain info for her books, was able to utilize her Astral body in order to visit and study in Temples in the Astral Plane.
In other words H.P.B. shunned mediumship after the Theosophical Society was formed.
We can see in H.P. Blavatsky's writings that she was against mediumship(which is much different than Astral Projection)
For Secret Doctrine is entirely new. There will not be there 20 pages quoted by bits from Isis. . . . In four Parts -- Archaic, Ancient, Mediaeval and Modern Periods. Each Part 12 chapters, with Appendices and a Glossary of terms at the end. Countess here, and she sees I have almost no books. Master and Kashmiri (M and KH) dictating in turn. She copies all. -- Theos., Aug. 1931, 667
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Please answer immediately. The whole almost is given by the "old gentleman" and Master and there are wonderful things there I tell you. But someone must see to the Sanskrit and the corrections of the exoteric renderings. -- Theos., March 1925, 787
Questions as to who wrote The Secret Doctrine and how it was written have been asked ever since the book appeared. HPB made no claim for the entire production. As she explained to Sinnett in her letter of March 3, 1886:
There's a new development and scenery, every morning. I live two lives again. Master finds that it is too difficult for me to be looking consciously into the astral light for my S.D. and so, it is now about a fortnight, I am made to see all I have to as though in my dream. I see large and long rolls of paper on which things are written and I recollect them. -- The Letters of H. P Blavatsky to A. P. Sinnett, 194
The Master KH gives further insight into the writing of the SD in his letter to Olcott, August 1888:
I have also noted, your thoughts about the "Secret Doctrine". Be assured that what she has not annotated from scientific and other works, we have given or suggested to her. Every mistake or erroneous notion, corrected and explained by her from the works of other theosophists was corrected by me, or under my instruction. It is a more valuable work than its predecessor [Isis], an epitome of occult truths that will make it a source of information and instruction for the earnest student for long years to come. -- Letters from the Masters of the Wisdom, No. 19, 1:47, 5th ed.
The co-authorship of The Secret Doctrine is also made plain in joint letters from the Mahatmas M and KH to Dr. Hubbe-Schleiden, received by him in Germany in early January 1886.