Originally posted by grimreaper797
Originally posted by HowlrunnerIV
[It's called Dereliction of Duty and cops can be charged with it, too. It's called "reasonble standard of care" and "negligence". One of which
the government, and thus its organs, owes you and the other is the crime they are charged with when they fail to provide it.
bring that up with the people that left, not nagin
Nagin is their boss. They work for him.
Are you reading what I post?
im reading what you post and well apparently your saying the same thing as before, when i answered you the first time.
Clearly you aren't answering. Or you could tell me why there was no NO emergency management department. Not to mention all the other things.
I will say it again, and this time try and listen,
Oh, would you look at that!
...Do you know what Forward Planning is? How many days
warning do you have when a Hurricane flattens Cuba?
you do remember how quickly katrina started up OVER THE GULF right? it wasnt nearly that much of a threat til then.
Oh, that's okay then. It's unreasonable for the city to go up an alert level the moment a tropical storm forms..."Oh come on, man, this is, like,
the fiftieth one this year, do I have to go check out that warehouse again? On Sunday."
Why haven't you already got them?
you would if you could transport them to the superdome. if they are already there then you should be asking the person whos in charge of doing that
why its not done. is nagin in charge of making sure supplies are at the superdome during something like this? i doubt he had the time to go down there
check and come back himself. you cant solely put the blame on him for this plain and simple
You still haven't given me a compelling reason for why New Orleans, or Tallahassee, Miami, Mobile etc, don't have a warehouse full of palletised
loads of supplies such as water, tinned food etc, ready for just such an emergency. Said pallets can be loaded onto trucks by forklift, transported
across town and unloaded by forklift into the parking garage, which I assume is under the 'Dome (possibly not the best situation given NO's
below-seal level circumstances, I admit), from where city workers can distribute them to the citizens sheltering in the 'Dome. I'm sure the Red
Cross would volunteer to help in the distribution, they're nice like that.
If DHL can track my parcels all the way across the world why the hell can't the US Government
keep their eye on a few bottles of water?
So the US has no compulsory requisition policy?
again are you expecting the mayor to go down and break open the stores and start transporting it? nope your expecting the chain of command to work
when it didnt. somewhere along the line things fell apart with people who werent doing there job, maybe that includes the mayor, maybe it doesnt. i
have a question though, were you down there right before, during, and/or right after the hurricane? if not how can you even be sure what
I've lived through bushfires in Australia. I have family who have lived through tropical cyclones. Why don't you check the history of Darwin circa
Christmas 1974 for an example of how these things should be managed after the event.
You bet I'm expecting the Chain of Command to work, that is the ONLY
thing it gets paid for. If it can't do its job it should resign. In
Japan the mayor would have committed Harakiri. Gruesome, but honourable.
Speaking of Japan, why don't you check out their disaster preparedness.
Forward planning enables you to cope, that's what it is for. You haven't given me a single reason that excuses ANYBODY, not just Nagin, for failing
to forward plan. Do you know what the word "contingency" means?
I realise Americans are fundamentally stupid and ungrateful people, but some of them might be thankful you saved and LOOKED AFTER them.
jamming them into the superdome when the chain of command fell apart leaving you in a severe lack of supplies would make me pretty ungrateful as well.
for all you know i might have had a better chance to make it in my home had i been left there. for those that dont have a home obviously evaccuating
them would be priority number one. or getting them in the superdome. they should have been the only ones put in there in the first place though. the
supplies would have lasted longer as well.
Had it been properly Forward Planned
then nothing would have fallen apart. Which part of this don't you get?
The fault doesn't lay in the week leading up to Katrina, it lies in the years
leading up to Katrina.
If you live in a Hurricane zone why does the city not a have an emergency management department of its own? One whose job it is to
co-ordinate this kind of stuff?
All I saw was blame being shifted around after the horse had bolted.
Four people were involved here, everybody, anybody, somebody and nobody.
Everybody was responsible, anybody could have taken responsibility, if somebody had taken responsibility nobody would have had to resign.
But NOBODY took responsibility.
basically like i said it was a failure on many levels, why try to blame one man when its obvious he isnt the only one at fault. where was FEMA
At no point do I excuse FEMA, Brown or Bush. Go read my earlier posts. But they are not the "point" people on this. Nagin is.
You still can't answer this:
Why didn't New Orleans have a comprehensive and drilled Hurricane plan?
Why didn't Louisiana have a comprehensive and drilled Hurricane plan?
Why didn't FEMA (and therefore the US Government) have a comprehensive and drilled Hurricane plan?