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The biggest conspiracy of all........... is conspiracy itself?

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posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 11:55 AM
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What do you think about the conspiracy theory that many/most conspiracy theories are actually disinformation to keep people off the trail of the real conspiracies?

I think there is a very tangible 'conspiracy', of greed and power. Those with power want to keep it and increase their share of it, whilst keeping everyone else as their little worker bees.

I think such a conspiracy takes in politics, commerce and finance - and thus it is proveable (however difficult) - As the saying goes "follow the money trail" - That is, if you want to know what's really going on look at who is profiting from whatever event you are questioning (a war for example).

Less tangible and proveable conspiracies, such as Aliens, are disinformation, put out to keep inquisitive people occupied, and away from the real conspiracy.



Disinformation, in the context of espionage, military intelligence, and propaganda, is the spreading of deliberately false information to mislead an enemy as to one's position or course of action. It also includes the distortion of true information in such a way as to render it useless.

SOURCE: en.wikipedia.org...



I'll give an example of a possible disinformation scenario..........

It's widely know that German scientists were transferred to the US to work for the military/intelligence agencies. (Operation Paperclip)

Soon after this, we see the upsurge of UFO activity, flying saucers. The Nazi's were working on saucer-shaped craft [link]

If zero-gravity craft has been developed and in use for all these years, it's clear those in power do not wish the general populace to have access to this technology - One possible reason for this is because it would mean our reliance on petrol, for cars, would rapidly decline. Since oil is a BIG money spinner, they keep the technology to themselves. Again, greed and power is the motivation.

In order to explain any sightings of these craft, the story of Aliens is disseminated. Before long a whole host of crack-pot theories about Aliens are thought up by people - Greys, Reptiles, Nordics, Cat people!.......... The list goes on. Hollywood perpetuates and crystalises images and ideas about Aliens in the public consciousness.

Now to explain abductions - I don't follow abduction stories, so excuse my lack of knowledge on them, but I'm under the impression that reported Alien abductions went through a sort of 'boom' in the 60's and 70's, with far fewer reports these days (same goes for catal mutilations) - Could this be because military/intelligence black operations were doing the abductions, for progressive genetic science? The drop off in abductions means they no longer have need for the experiments/samples carried out because either a) They no longer have an interest in that area of science, or, b) They can now have the technology to breed/clone people, thus don't have to rely on abducting civillians.

Abductees reports of 'greys' or 'reptiles' are meerly products of mind control false memories implanted in them by the real abductors, and their reports perpetuate the Aliens myth.


Not to say I necessarily think Aliens are not real, but could this a viable theory? That the only conspiracy is the rich and powerful want to stay that way?




posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 01:37 PM
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That is a totally viable theory.

However, there is much strangeness in this world.

Why is there an Illuminati all seeing eye on the American $1 bill?

What was the deal with Hilter's obsession with the occult?

Why do Goverment and mass media stories change so drasticly?

Why does the Cathlic Church preach love and tolerant while being ruthlessly intolerant?

How exactly does a buffoon manage to take office against the popular desired of a voting population (twice!)?

How much of this is connected?

Who are the informants and who are the dis-informationists?

There's lots of questions who's answers we'll likely never know. All we can do is theorise and maybe, just maybe, we can come up with enough good guesses to keep the bad guys on their toes.



posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by BitRaiser

Why is there an Illuminati all seeing eye on the American $1 bill?

For the benefit of those who may awaken who are in the general population, so they will know they are not alone.


What was the deal with Hilter's obsession with the occult?

Anything that could be used to support his ideals would be best used if turned into a tool, to benefit their cause. He wanted to understand.


Why do Goverment and mass media stories change so drasticly?

They see no other choice.


Why does the Cathlic Church preach love and tolerant while being ruthlessly intolerant?

Perceptions, Intentionality, of both the target, and the observer.


How exactly does a buffoon manage to take office against the popular desired of a voting population (twice!)?

Control peoples fears, you control their intentions. Control their intentions, you control them. Control them and it is easy to get the majority who are baffoons to vote to be led by another baffoon. Baffoons relate better to baffoons.


How much of this is connected?

There is no measurable degree of seperation.


Who are the informants and who are the dis-informationists?

Dis-information is only possible if people will believe the dis-information. In order for this to work, we need baffoons.





[edit on 29-11-2005 by Esoteric Teacher]



posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 06:49 PM
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Bastage!

You're not familiar with the concept of rhetorical questions?
:p



posted on Nov, 30 2005 @ 10:15 AM
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I'm familiar with rhetorical questions. But, I also find it amusing (to myself) to answer them out loud with a little originality from between my ears. Are my answers the best? Probably not, but I know they were some of the most truthful answers I could supply and be true to myself.

A relative point being made is: Everyones own logic supplies you with the logic you will need to debunk their own logic.

What I mean by that is: You can disprove any statement made by anyone with statements they already know and accept as true.

Besides, I likes the questions.

Your new good friend,

Esoteric "Bastage" Teacher, aka John



posted on Dec, 7 2005 @ 11:30 AM
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Conspiracys aren't always about money, so following a money trail is futile.

All conspiracys are about power, follow the power.

Some people don't believe in conspiracy, even tho there is credible evidence that clearly shows conspiracy.

For example: THE FRANKLIN COVER-UP, PROJECT NORTHWOODS, GULF OF TONKIN CONSPIRACY, MK-ULTRA to name just a few undisputed conspiracys.



posted on Dec, 7 2005 @ 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by one last time
Conspiracys aren't always about money, so following a money trail is futile.

All conspiracys are about power, follow the power.


Power is a relative term known only to those whose minds are ruled by fear. Remove fear from the equation and the truth of the conspiracy reveals itself. Power is not the root of all conspiracy. Power is an illusion created from the minds of fear.

1)Power is control

2)Control is only necessary when the concept of: fear losing love is present.

3)Fearing losing that which is loving is what justifies the existance of fear and hate.

Now, removing fear from the equation presents a different perspective.

Those in power are not performing actions and behaviors that are supporting a mind that is operating on fear. There are other motivations besides money and power.

The root of all intentions are motives. The root of all motives is truth. Maybe not your truth, but their truth. How can we help our collective truth meet the truth?

Look at all that has happened worldwide.

What is the cause that supports the effects?

Removing fear it becomes clear the intentions of what motivates the cause, I know the cause because the effects are measurable, but they are only truly measurable when viewing the truth, and the truth is the truth has nothing to fear because the truth is the truth regardless.

The actions and behaviors of those who currently hold power demonstrate to me that "they" (We) have a primary intention of developing and implementing a worldwide communication system that leaves "No Child Left Behind", and a system that will be able to address all souls simultaneously.

Peace,
John




posted on Dec, 7 2005 @ 03:12 PM
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Simple, use conspriaries against "CT"s and the "CT" will be ignored. So we sort, and study, and fall in love with boybands.
-Okay, it happens. But my point is, to very simple make it so the "awaken people" in society will be ignored(like in "The Matrix").



posted on Dec, 7 2005 @ 04:18 PM
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The material world is to blame for the ignorance. Most people can't help but be decieved because they are weak minded. But I also say screw em. It's every man for himself.

They'll find out the truth through pain if need be. I especially have no sympathy for people who think they can call something a conspiracy theory and expect that solves the argument.

Especially if they are Masons. They have the best chances of discovering the illuminati out of anyone in the population so if they don't discover the truth they are either in denial or complicit in the cover up.


mod edit related to Vulgarity and The Automatic ATS Censors

[edit on 7-12-2005 by DontTreadOnMe]



posted on Jan, 14 2006 @ 09:48 PM
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The group of individuals who you refer to are called Oligarchist. You are not born into this group. You have to be invited. To be invited you have one common bond. Very high IQ's and/or talents that can be used for their own benefit which is to rule the world. These people are in goverments, business, and our media. They are the grand masters of the powerful secret societies. Most of there idealology is about power but some is entertainment. It is entertaining to people of higher intelligence (who feel they are superior to people of lesser intelligence)to manipulate the masses who are less intelligent therefore less superior than themselves. A large part of that is miss information. They are constantly looking for new people through the learning skills test we all take in school. MAT, ACT, and SAT. Another fact about them is they all are firm believers in Good and Evil. God and Satan.



posted on Jan, 15 2006 @ 10:41 PM
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wow, my mind is SO BLOWN.


actually, i've considered this a lot, and come to the conclusion that people need to use a filter, seperate the fake conspiracies from the legit ones.



posted on Dec, 2 2008 @ 04:53 PM
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The rich and powerful have always and always will rule the world. We the middle class and poor are puppets that are manipulated mentally on a daily basis. We are bain washed, that is those of us that can be bainwashed.

All that is going on right now is a conspiracy so the rich and powerful can have even more power. It is pathetic and appalling that rich people can have that much power and control.

The more you can suppress people through negative and depressive thinking the more power they have and you lose.



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 05:27 AM
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Moral of the story: don't believe just anything you read on the internet. There's a lot of information out there, but there's no guarantee how true it is. I've got my opinions, and so does everyone else.

And so far, that's fine. But if you're going to speak passionately about a topic, I'd ask for you to make reasonably sure it's true first.



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