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Originally posted by IAF101
Wrong. As soon as the Soviets attacked Afganistan their wasnt any organized force set up by America to counter the Soviets, various Afghan sections were fighting independently against the God less soviets and thus they declared jihad against the Soviets and those jihadi's were called the mujahideen or the "strugglers". The US came much later when they recognized the potential of the resistence movement and how effective it was against the Soviets. The US then financed, trained and equipped them. And the rest is history.
Do I need to give you a history lesson every time on every topic ??
This is just foolish !! Rambo 3 is your idea of the US Special Forces ?? YOu are definitely deluded, Rambo 3 is garbage and nothing more, a fantasy that was NOTHING like what really happened. The US provided weapons, training and money to the Mujahideen- that is true but sent in Special Forces to take out the Soviets? Why would they need to ? The mujahideen were doing a bang up job themselves and maybe the CIA guys did get their hands dirty but never the US army Special Operiation!
Originally posted by Seekerof
Where you been Willis?
Originally posted by Souljah
Sure. CIA Cover operations began even BEFORE the Soviet Invasion of Afganistan for your Information.
And when the Rambo 3 came out, the War in Afganistan was in full effect - and the Movie was the mirror of current events.
Why are you living in Denial?
Even mister Reagan said that Mujahideen were Freedom Fighters.
Originally posted by ludaChris
But that is not the issue. Why is this an issue if it is inspected every year by the Red Cross. If the Red Cross is saying the conditions meet the standards then thats good enough for me. I trust them more than I do Amnesty International.
Originally posted by IAF101
This is the problem, you havent read the entire article properly nor do you know of the history of the USSR. :shk: The Sinatra doctorine was preceeded by the Brezhnev doctrine that clearly stated that the soviets would ultimately end the rebillion in Afghanistan under the communist party and thus ensure that Afghanistan is part of the Warsaw pact. This could not happen and thus the CIA was asked to carry out "covert propaganda operations against the pro-Soviet regime" which is NOT the same as giving the mujahideen stingers!
So some X-vietnam vet in Afganistan slammed a T72 into a mi-24 and survived ?? and also did he take out a whole soviet base and shoot explosive arrows?
Yeah thats reality allright !!
I dont know what you understood from my post but you have not understood what I was saying. I never said that the Mujahideen were not Freedom Fighters THEN, also I never said that the US didnt support them THEN . What is this all about ??
Originally posted by Souljah
I am talking about the IDEA of the Movie, how USA is FRIENDS with the Taliban and how the US special forces worked side by side with the Mujahideen rebels, who are today treated as Terrorists.
How come that the members of Iraqi resistance today are not Freedom Fighters, when they are fighting an Invasion and an occupation of their Country?
There is a word, that starts with an -H- and ends with a -Y-...
Originally posted by Souljah
The Problem arises when you Find yout that CIA actually CREATED all of these Terrorists Organisations. They FOUNDED them. They TRAINED them. They ARMED them. They HELPED them get form one to another Country. What makes you think that they are not on CIA Payrole anymore?
Originally posted by LA_Maximus
I would hang him over a pool of Great Whites to get the info we needed.
I do beleave there are secret prisons for top Al Quaeda operatives and I Thank God that there is....this is war.
Originally posted by Conspiracy Theorist
So no tactics are off limits because its war... but you would be the first scream TERRORISM if al qaeda started kidnapping people off the streets in mainland america for interrorgation purposes... but hey... this is war.
America is such an arrogant country, thinking it can do what it wants at the same time as dictating to others what they can and cant do.... Such a sad ironic state of affairs
Originally posted by LA_Maximus
Example: If our boys catch a Muslim with Nuclear Triggers that are used to trigger a Nuclear Device.....what happens if this guy does'nt want to talk Souljah? What if he was caught with a street plan of YOUR city???
The contract to service Camp Bondsteel is the latest in a string of military contracts awarded to Brown & Root Services. Its fortunes have grown as US militarism has escalated. The company is part of the Halliburton Corporation, the largest supplier of products and services to the oil industry.
In sectors controlled by other Western powers, KFOR soldiers who are living in bombed out apartment blocks and old factories joke, “What are the two things that can be seen from space? One is the Great Wall of China, the other is Camp Bondsteel.”
Originally posted by Souljah
Originally posted by Seekerof
Where you been Willis?
Hey SEEKERof - didcha know what the word TALIBAN means?
The Taliban (Persian and Pashto طالبان (plural), from the Arabic طالب (singular), meaning "SEEKER" or "student").
So if we translate your name to Persian/Pashto it means Taliban!
Originally posted by Souljah
There is a BIG Difference between a "Muslim Terrorist with a Nuclear Trigger" and a SUSPECTED Enemy Combatant.
And the Majority of the Prisoners in Detention Camps are Suspects! Meaning, they are NOT actually accused of Anything!
I think that if we both would found that out, we would be two very pissed individuals.
Originally posted by IAF101
Yeah, the SUSPECTED enemy combatant was just standing around with some people with AK and grenade launchers shooting at people. Or the SUSPECTED enemy combatant might have just been fixing up his car with TNT, nothing wrong with that is their ?
What kind of logic is that anyway? Do you need to see the person blow himself up with TNT before you say he is a terrorist ?
Originally posted by Souljah
THATS what I am talking about - and he sure is not the only Case, since there were around 300 landings of CIA aircraft in Europe Only! I wonder how many people there are with the Same Story - being Guilty until proven Otherwise.
Kindof SS Tactics, don't you think?
Whats your Logic - arrest and interrogate every Muslim on this Planet?
Originally posted by nukunuku
look IAF101 if your country can put to trial serial killers that kill 100 people why dont these people that are not yet guilty of anything get a fair trial ?
hmmmm?
Originally posted by IAF101
Do you know how many german firm were involved in the oil for food scam? Do you know tht the Germans were the ones that helped Saddam with his chemical warfare technology ?
All that was done was interrogation and if he was truly innocent he has nothing to be afraid of? Or would you prefer Stalins methods of dealing with suspicious people ?