US Denies Mini-Guantanamo in Kosovo

Originally posted by Souljah
Is there a Country where CIA does NOT have a Secret Detention Camp?

Originally posted by deltaboy


Simple answer. China!!! Should the camps be secret or should they be displayed to the world where the people be laughing at them? Its kind of like Al Zawahiri when he was caged back in Egypt and was televised.

Is there a Country where CIA does NOT have a Secret Detention Camp?
Frankly I think this Has gone Way Out of HAND.
I hope that Europe will do Something against this...

In 2003, NBC News acquired a videotaped statement of Muhammad Talal al-Jafar al Tallani Ackbar al-Walid, described as al-Qaeda's Deputy Under-Emir for Defensive Intelligence and Holy War Operations, denouncing US and calling for world Jihad against the West. The report then goes on to describe Muhammad Talal as one that was “involved in noteworthy military operations in the past, serving in covert operations alongside the CIA in Afghanistan and in Bosnia and Kosovo before joining al-Qaeda.” The report cites that American soldiers Lt. Gen. William Boykin and Will Dunham contributed to the report.

AMERICAN intelligence agents have admitted they helped to train the Kosovo Liberation Army before Nato's bombing of Yugoslavia. The disclosure angered some European diplomats, who said this had undermined moves for a political solution to the conflict between Serbs and Albanians.

Both the CIA and German intelligence (BND) supported the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), a terrorist organization with links to Al Qaeda.

Despite its links to organized crime and Al Qaeda, the KLA rebel army had been skillfully heralded by the Western media in the months preceding the 1999 NATO bombings as broadly representative of the interests of ethnic Albanians in Kosovo. Its leader Hashim Thaci had been "designated" (by US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright) as chief negotiator at the Rambouillet peace talks.

"Samedin Xhezairi, also known as Commander Hoxha, joined the Kosovo Liberation Army when armed conflict in Kosovo began, fighting in three operation zones. He was a fighter in Chechnya, trained in Afghanistan and acted as the commander of the Mujahideen 112th Brigade operating in the summer of 2001 in the region of Tetovo [Macedonia]. In August of the same year 80 members of the 3/502 battalion of U.S. paratroopers evacuated him from Aracinovo [Macedonia], together with his Albanian extremists and 17 instructors of the U.S. private military company MPRI which was training the Albanian paramilitary formations."

"The official Dutch inquiry into the 1995 Srebrenica massacre, released last week, contains one of the most sensational reports on western intelligence ever published. Officials have been staggered by its findings and the Dutch government has resigned.... Now we have the full story of the secret alliance between the Pentagon and radical Islamist groups from the Middle East designed to assist the Bosnian Muslims... in flagrant violation of the UN security council arms embargo against all combatants in the former Yugoslavia. The result was a vast secret conduit of weapons smuggling though Croatia. This was arranged by the clandestine agencies of the US, Turkey and Iran, together with a range of radical Islamist groups, including Afghan mojahedin and the pro-Iranian Hizbullah.... Initially aircraft from Iran Air were used, but as the volume increased they were joined by a mysterious fleet of black C-130 Hercules aircraft. The report stresses that the US was 'very closely involved' in the airlift. Mojahedin fighters were also flown in... the Pentagon's own secret service was the hidden force behind these operations."

Originally posted by ludaChris
And why wouldnt the CIA be wherever Al Queada is, its their job to track them, that is what they are paid for.

Originally posted by Souljah
The Problem arises when you Find yout that CIA actually CREATED all of these Terrorists Organisations. They FOUNDED them. They TRAINED them. They ARMED them. They HELPED them get form one to another Country. What makes you think that they are not on CIA Payrole anymore?

Originally posted by IAF101
The CIA Created nobody, they meerly supplied arms and provided training to "already present" rebels in Soviet Afganistan, in effect they trained and equipped a people that were fighting against the Russians in Afganistan, nothing more and nothing less. What ever these people do 30 years after they beat the Russians cannot be attributed to the CIA or America.

The "Islamic Brigades" are a creation of the CIA. In standard CIA jargon, Al Qaeda is categorized as an "intelligence asset". Support to terrorist organizations is an integral part of U.S. foreign policy. Al Qaeda continues to this date (2002) to participate in CIA covert operations in different parts of the World. These "CIA-Osama links" do not belong to a bygone era, as suggested by the mainstream media.

The U.S. Congress has documented in detail, the links of Al Qaeda to agencies of the U.S. government during the civil war in Bosnia-Herzegovina, as well as in Kosovo. More recently in Macedonia, barely a few months before September 11, U.S. military advisers were mingling with Mujahideen mercenaries financed by Al Qaeda. Both groups were fighting under the auspices of the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), within the same terrorist paramilitary formation.

The CIA keeps track of its "intelligence assets". Amply documented, Osama bin Laden's whereabouts were always known. Al Qaeda is infiltrated by the CIA. In other words, there were no "intelligence failures"! In the nature of a well-led intelligence operation, the "intelligence asset" operates (wittingly or unwittingly) with some degree of autonomy, in relation to its U.S. government sponsors, but ultimately it acts consistently, in the interests of Uncle Sam.

www.911dossier.co.uk...

Originally posted by Souljah
Yea, Sure.
And you found out that on...

Sorry - but Al-Qaeda WAS and still IS CIA's Baby, and probably MI5 along with MOSSAD, designed to keep the Terror Threat Levels Up.

Check this Thread: Fabricated Al-Qaeda Links and read post Post Number: 1819989 (post id: 1841882), mmmkey?

Originally posted by IAF101
Face it, with people like YOU on ATS I can hardly say that ever word on ATS is the truth! Even logically ATS is a conspiracy site, how can you link it to fact?? HAve you finally exhausted all the millions of sites that spread propaganda ?
Questions, questions...!!

None the less, the link in that post is flawed in many ways, for one it doesnt ever mention the ISI which has played a pivotal role in the whole Mujahideen situation during the Soviet Ocuupation. Also the link fails to mention that the CIA actually paid the afgans to return their weapon and this did not suceed. It vaugely claims that the US is "involved" in this "conspiracy" which is unsubstantiated by any credible source of information and only provides mention of these assertions by quoting back and forth to various article published on the same site by the same people. That in itself is enough to show that the articel is devoid of any semblence of the truth or fact because of which, other points of verification are redundant.

Originally posted by Souljah
But the Problem here is, that China does not Dictate other countries what to do, YET (such as Iran and North Korea).

What makes you think that they are not on CIA Payrole anymore?

Originally posted by Seekerof
Where you been Willis?
Souljah, China has been dictating to Taiwan and a number of other nations for quite sometime.

Ummmm, errr, because the same organization [the CIA] that trained, armed, founded, and created them, as per your saying so, has indicated that they are not on their or US payrolls any longer.

Originally posted by Souljah
And with People like YOU, .........

Before the CIA came to Afganistan there were NO Mujahedeen.

Remember Rambo 3 - the Embodyment of US Special Forces, fighting alongside with Taliban? I guess your current "anti-islamic" Agenda has forced you to completly forget and ignore that FACT from the Past.

Originally posted by IAF101
..... The mujahideen were doing a bang up job themselves ....