Willaim cooper dead, phil schneider dead.

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posted on Nov, 28 2005 @ 01:57 PM
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Someone posted a thread about phil schneider, and it got interesting.
Then i watched this video about william cooper, hoax or not, still died in mysterious circumstances.

www.ch... ecktheevidence.com/video/William%20Cooper%20-%20The%20Secret%20Government,%20UFO's,%20MJ12%20and%20Drugs%20(1989).wmv

Thats the video.

This is a news article about his death.

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Well, it seems people that shout the loudest die.

Bear with the video, he yabbles a while but explains it well.

Verdicts please.




posted on Nov, 28 2005 @ 02:19 PM
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www.burlingtonnews.net...

So is there a cover up?

Are people labelled mad, killed for a reason.?


Do you believe?



posted on Nov, 28 2005 @ 02:24 PM
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www.apfn.org...



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[edit on 28-11-2005 by Denied]



posted on Nov, 28 2005 @ 02:37 PM
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I don't quite understand this statement from the news article:
"Near the door of his house, Cooper turned toward the officer who was urging him to surrender, shooting him in the head and wounding him seriously."


Is there a time where getting shot in the head is not a serious wound?



posted on Nov, 28 2005 @ 05:15 PM
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Originally posted by DrussRob


Is there a time where getting shot in the head is not a serious wound?

Yes.



posted on Nov, 28 2005 @ 05:33 PM
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center of the head... between the brains...?



posted on Nov, 28 2005 @ 05:38 PM
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Denied: Thanks for video . This is just the very tip of the iceberg....You think william cooper died in mysterious circumstances ? I guess its just a conicedence that 88 Scientists
And Microbiologists are dead ? You would think Microbiologists have one of the most dangerous jobs on earth



March 1982 - Professor Keith Bowden, 46

-- Expertise: Computer programmer and scientist at Essex University engaged in work for Marconi, who was hailed as an expert on super computers and computer-controlled aircraft.
-- Circumstance of Death: Fatal car crash when his vehicle went out of control across a dual carriageway and plunged onto a disused railway line. Police maintained he had been drinking but family and friends all denied the allegation.
-- Coroner's verdict: Accident.

April 1983 - Lt. Colonel Anthony Godley, 49

-- Expertise: Head of the Work Study Unit at the Royal College of Military Science.
-- Circumstance of Death: Disappeared mysteriously in April 1983 without explanation. Presumed dead.

March 1985 - Roger Hill, 49

-- Expertise: Radar designer and draughtsman with Marconi.
-- Circumstance of Death: Died by a shotgun blast at home.
-- Coroner's verdict: Suicide.

November 19, 1985 - Jonathan Wash, 29

-- Expertise: Digital communications expert who had worked at GEC and at British Telecom,s secret research centre at Martlesham Heath, Suffolk.
-- Circumstance of Death: Died as a result of falling from a hotel room in Abidjan, West Africa, while working for British Telecom. He had expressed fears that his life was in danger.
-- Coroner's verdict: Open.

August 4, 1986 - Vimal Dajibhai, 24

-- Expertise: Computer software engineer with Marconi, responsible for testing computer control systems of Tigerfish and Stingray torpedoes at Marconi Underwater Systems at Croxley Green, Hertfordshire.
-- Circumstance of Death: Death by 74m (240ft.) fall from Clifton Suspension Bridge, Bristol. Police report on the body mentioned a needle-sized puncture wound on the left buttock, but this was later dismissed as being a result of the fall. Dajibhai had been looking forward to starting a new job in the City of London and friends had confirmed that there was no reason for him to commit suicide. At the time of his death he was in the last week of his work with Marconi.
-- Coroner's verdict: Open.

October 1986 - Arshad Sharif, 26

-- Expertise: Reported to have been working on systems for the detection of submarines by satellite.
-- Circumstance of Death: Died as a result of placing a ligature around his neck, tying the other end to a tree and then driving off in his car with the accelerator pedal jammed down. His unusual death was complicated by several issues: Sharif lived near Vimal Dajibhai in Stanmore, Middlesex, he committed suicide in Bristol and, inexplicably, had spent the last night of his life in a rooming house. He had paid for his accommodation in cash and was seen to have a bundle of high-denomination banknotes in his possession. While the police were told of the banknotes, no mention was made of them at the inquest and they were never found. In addition, most of the other guests at the rooming house worked at British Aerospace prior to working for Marconi, Sharif had also worked at British Aerospace on guided weapons technology.
-- Coroner's verdict: Suicide.

January 1987 - Richard Pugh, 37

-- Expertise: MOD computer consultant and digital communications expert.
-- Circumstance of Death: Found dead in his flat in with his feet bound and a plastic bag over his head. Rope was tied around his body, coiling four times around his neck.
-- Coroner's verdict: Accident.

January 12, 1987: Dr. John Brittan, 52

-- Expertise: Scientist formerly engaged in top secret work at the Royal College of Military Science at Shrivenham, Oxfordshire, and later deployed in a research department at the MOD.
-- Circumstance of Death: Death by carbon monoxide poisoning in his own garage, shortly after returning from a trip to the US in connection with his work.
-- Coroner's verdict: Accident.

February 1987 - David Skeels, 43

--Expertise: Engineer with Marconi.
--Circumstance of Death: Found dead in his car with a hosepipe connected to the exhaust.
--Coroner's verdict: Open.

February 1987 - Victor Moore, 46

-- Expertise: Design Engineer with Marconi Space and Defence Systems.
-- Circumstance of Death: Died from an overdose.
-- Coroner's verdict: Suicide.

February 22, 1987 - Peter Peapell, 46

-- Expertise: Scientist at the Royal College of Military Science. He had been working on testing titanium for its resistance to explosives and the use of computer analysis of signals from metals.
-- Circumstance of Death: Found dead allegedly from carbon monoxide poisoning, in his Oxfordshire garage. The circumstances of his death raised some elements of doubt. His wife had found him on his back with his head parallel to the rear car bumper and his mouth in line with the exhaust pipe, with the car engine running. Police were apparently baffled as to how he could have manoeuvred into the position in which he was found.
-- Coroner's verdict: Open.

March 30, 1987 - David Sands, 37

--Expertise: Senior scientist working for Easams of Camberley, Surrey, a sister company to Marconi. Dr. John Brittan had also worked at Camberley.
--Circumstance of Death: Fatal car crash when he allegedly made a sudden U-turn on a dual carriageway while on his way to work, crashing at high speed into a disused cafeteria. He was found still wearing his seat belt and it was discovered that the car had been carrying additional petrol cans. None of the 'normal' reasons for a possible suicide could be found.
--Coroner's verdict: Open.

April 1987 - George Kountis (age unknown)

-- Expertise: Systems Analyst at Bristol Polytechnic.
-- Circumstance of Death: Drowned the same day as Shani Warren (see below) - as the result of a car accident, his upturned car being found in the River Mersey, Liverpool.
-- Coroner's verdict: Misadventure.
(Kountis, sister called for a fresh inquest as she thought 'things didn't add up.')

April 10, 1987 - Shani Warren, 26

-- Expertise: Personal assistant in a company called Micro Scope, which was taken over by GEC Marconi less than four weeks after her death.
-- Circumstance of Death: Found drowned in 45cm. (18in) of water, not far from the site of David Greenhalgh's death fall. Warren died exactly one week after the death of Stuart Gooding and serious injury to Greenhalgh. She was found gagged with a noose around her neck. Her feet were also bound and her hands tied behind her back.
-- Coroner's verdict: Open.
(It was said that Warren had gagged herself, tied her feet with rope, then tied her hands behind her back and hobbled to the lake on stiletto heels to drown herself.)

April 10, 1987 - Stuart Gooding, 23

-- Expertise: Postgraduate research student at the Royal College of Military Science.
-- Circumstance of Death: Fatal car crash while on holiday in Cyprus. The death occurred at the same time as college personnel were carrying out exercises on Cyprus.
-- Coroner's verdict: Accident.

April 24, 1987 - Mark Wisner, 24

-- Expertise: Software engineer at the MOD.
-- Circumstance of Death: Found dead on in a house shared with two colleagues. He was found with a plastic sack around his head and several feet of cling film around his face. The method of death was almost identical to that of Richard Pugh some three months earlier.
-- Coroner's verdict: Accident.

May 3, 1987 - Michael Baker, 22

-- Expertise: Digital communications expert working on a defence project at Plessey; part-time member of Signals Corps SAS.
-- Circumstance of Death: Fatal accident owhen his car crashed through a barrier near Poole in Dorset.
-- Coroner's verdict: Misadventure.

June 1987 - Frank Jennings, 60

-- Expertise: Electronic Weapons Engineer with Plessey.
-- Circumstance of Death: Found dead from a heart attack.
-- No inquest.

January 1988 - Russell Smith, 23

-- Expertise: Laboratory technician with the Atomic Energy Research Establishment at Harwell, Oxfordshire.
-- Circumstance of Death: Died as a result of a cliff fall at Boscastle in Cornwall.
-- Coroner's verdict: Suicide.

March 25, 1988 - Trevor Knight, 52

-- Expertise: Computer engineer with Marconi Space and Defence Systems in Stanmore, Middlesex.
-- Circumstance of Death: Found dead at his home in Harpenden, Hertfordshire at the wheel of his car with a hosepipe connected to the exhaust. A St.Alban,s coroner said that Knight,s woman friend, Miss Narmada Thanki (who also worked with him at Marconi) had found three suicide notes left by him which made clear his intentions. Miss Thanki had mentioned that Knight disliked his work but she did not detect any depression that would have driven him to suicide.
-- Coroner's verdict: Suicide.

August 1988 - Alistair Beckham, 50

-- Expertise: Software engineer with Plessey Defence Systems.
-- Circumstance of Death: Found dead after being electrocuted in his garden shed with wires connected to his body.
-- Coroner's verdict: Open.

August 22, 1988 - Peter Ferry, 60

-- Expertise: Retired Army Brigadier and an Assistant Marketing Director with Marconi.
-- Circumstance of Death: Found on 22nd or 23rd August 1988 electrocuted in his company with flat electrical leads in his mouth.
-- Coroner's verdict: Open

September 1988 - Andrew Hall, 33

-- Expertise: Engineering Manager with British Aerospace.
-- Circumstance of Death: Carbon monoxide poisoning in a car with a hosepipe connected to the exhaust.
-- Coroner's verdict: Suicide.

Above list compiled by Raymond A. Robinson in 'The Alien Intent'
(A Dire Warning)

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(Thanks Joe C. for the web archive link.)

1988 - Stanley Irving Sigal, 35

-- Expertise: Top AIDS researcher at Merck.
-- Circumstance of Death: In seat number 13B on Pan American Flight that was shot down over Lockerbee Scotland.
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Date? - Dr. C. Bruton

-- Expertise: He had just produced a paper on a new strain of CJD. He was a CJD specialist who was killed before his work was announced to the public.
-- Circumstance of Death: died in a car crash.

1994/95? - Dr. Jawad Al Aubaidi

-- Expertise: Veterinary mycoplasma and had worked with various mycoplasmas in the 1980s at Plum Island.
-- Circumstance of Death: He was killed in his native Iraq while he was changing a flat tire and hit by a truck.
Source - Patricia A. Doyle, PhD

1996 - Tsunao Saitoh, 46

-- Expertise: A leading Alzheimer's researcher
-- Circumstance of Death: He and his 13 year-old daughter were killed in La Jolla, California, in what a Reuters report described as a "very professionally done" shooting. He was dead behind the wheel of the car, the side window had been shot out, and the door was open. His daughter appeared to have tried to run away and she was shot dead, also.

Dec 25, 1997 - Sidney Harshman, 67

-- Expertise: Professor of microbiology and immunology.
"He was the world's leading expert on staphylococcal alpha toxins," according to Conrad Wagner, professor of biochemistry at Vanderbilt and a close friend of Professor Harshman. "He also deeply cared for other people and was always eager to help his students and colleagues."
-- Circumstance of Death: Complications of diabetes

July 10, 1998 - Elizabeth A. Rich, MD, 46

-- Expertise: An associate professor with tenure in the pulmonary division of the Department of Medicine at CWRU and University Hospitals of Cleveland. She was also a member of the executive committee for the Center for AIDS Research and directed the biosafety level 3 facility, a specialized laboratory for the handling of HIV, virulent TB bacteria, and other infectious agents.
-- Circumstance of Death: Killed in a traffic accident while visiting family in Tennessee

September 1998 - Jonathan Mann, 51

-- Expertise: Founding director of the World Health Organisation's global Aids programme and founded Project SIDA in Zaire, the most comprehensive Aids research effort in Africa at the time, and in 1986 he joined the WHO to lead the global response against Aids. He became director of WHO's global programme on Aids which later became the UNAids programme. He then became director of the Francois-Xavier Bagnoud Center for Health and Human Rights, which was set up at Harvard School of Public Health in 1993. He caused controversy earlier this year in the post when he accused the US National Institutes of Health of violating human rights by failing to act quickly on developing Aids vaccines.
-- Circumstance of Death: Died in the Swissair Flight 111 crash in Canada.

March 2000 - Larry C. Ford

-- Expertise: Served as a consultant to both the CIA and the chemical and biological-weapons program of the South African Defense Forces, headed by Wouter Basson. His contributions to Basson's program included lectures on converting ordinary items into lethal biological weapons.
He provided samples of virulent, designer strains of cholera, anthrax, botulism, plague, and malaria, as well as a bacteria he claimed had been mutated to be "pigment specific" for the white minority government of South Africa.
www.edwardhumes.com...
-- Circumstance of Death: Died of a shotgun blast at his home in Irvine, Orange County, California. His death was later ruled a suicide.
www.visioncircle.org...

April 15, 2000 - Walter W. Shervington, MD, 62

-- Expertise: An extensive writer/ lecturer/ researcher about mental health and AIDS in the African American community.
-- Circumstance of Death: Died of cancer at Tulane Medical Hospital.

July 16, 2000 - Mike Thomas, 35

-- Expertise: A microbiologist at the Crestwood Medical Center in Huntsville.
-- Circumstance of Death: Died a few days after examining a sample taken from a 12-year-old girl who was diagnosed with meningitis and survived.

December 25, 2000 - Linda Reese, 52

--Expertise: Microbiologist working with victims of meningitis.
--Circumstance of Death: Died three days after she studied a sample from Tricia Zailo, 19, a Fairfield, N.J., resident who was a sophomore at Michigan State University. Tricia Zailo died Dec. 18, a few days after she returned home for the holidays.

May 7 2001 - Professor Janusz Jeljaszewicz

-- Expertise: Expert in Staphylococci and Staphylococcal Infections. His main scientific interests and achievements were in the mechanism of action and biological properties of staphylococcal toxins, and included the immunomodulatory properties and experimental treatment of tumours by Propionibacterium.

November 2001 - Yaacov Matzner, 54

-- Expertise: Dean of the Hebrew University-Hadassah Medical School in Jerusalem and chairman of the Israel Society of Hematology and Blood Transfusions, was the son of Holocaust survivors. One of the world's experts on blood diseases including familiar Mediterranean fever (FMF), Matzner conducted research that led to a genetic test for FMF. He was working on cloning the gene connected to FMF and investigating the normal physiological function of amyloid A, a protein often found in high levels in people with blood cancer.
-- Circumstance of Death: Professors Yaacov Matzner and Amiram Eldor were on their way back to Israel via Switzerland when their plane came down in dense forest three kilometres short of the landing field.

November 2001 - Professor Amiram Eldor, 59

-- Expertise: Head of the haematology institute, Tel Aviv's Ichilov Hospital and worked for years at Hadassah-University Hospital's haematology department but left for his native Tel Aviv in 1993 to head the haematology institute at Ichilov Hospital. He was an internationally known expert on blood clotting especially in women who had repeated miscarriages and was a member of a team that identified eight new anti-clotting agents in the saliva of leeches.
-- Circumstance of Death: Professors Yaacov Matzner and Amiram Eldor were on their way back to Israel via Switzerland when their plane came down in dense forest three kilometres short of the landing field.

November 6, 2001 - Jeffrey Paris Wall, 41

-- Expertise: He was a biomedical expert who held a medical degree, and he also specialized in patent and intellectual property.
-- Circumstance of Death: Mr. Walls body was found sprawled next to a three-story parking structure near his office. He had studied at the University of California, Los Angeles.

Nov. 16, 2001 - Don C. Wiley, 57

-- Expertise: One of the foremost microbiologists in the United States. Dr. Wiley, of the Howard Hughes Medical Institute at Harvard University, was an expert on how the immune system responds to viral attacks such as the classic doomsday plagues of HIV, ebola and influenza.
-- Circumstance of Death: Police found his rental car on a bridge outside Memphis, Tenn. His body was found Dec. 20 in the Mississippi River.

Nov. 21, 2001 - Vladimir Pasechnik, 64

-- Expertise: World-class microbiologist and high-profile Russian defector; defected to the United Kingdom in 1989, played a huge role in Russian biowarfare and helped to figure out how to modify cruise missiles to deliver the agents of mass biological destruction.
-- Background: founded Regma Biotechnologies company in Britain, a laboratory at Porton Down, the country´s chem-bio warfare defense establishment. Regma currently has a contract with the U.S. Navy for "the diagnostic and therapeutic treatment of anthrax".
-- Circumstance of Death: The pathologist who did the autopsy, and who also happened to be associated with Britain´s spy agency, concluded he died of a stroke. Details of the postmortem were not revealed at an inquest, in which the press was given no prior notice. Colleagues who had worked with Pasechnik said he was in good health.

Dec. 10, 2001 - Robert M. Schwartz, 57

-- Expertise: Expert in DNA sequencing and pathogenic micro-organisms, founding member of the Virginia Biotechnology Association, and the Executive Director of Research and Development at Virginia´s Center for Innovative Technology in Herndon.
-- Circumstance of Death: stabbed and slashed with what police believe was a sword in his farmhouse in Leesberg, Va. His daughter, who identifies herself as a pagan high priestess, and several of her fellow pagans have been charged.

Dec. 14, 2001 - Nguyen Van Set, 44

-- Expertise: animal diseases facility of the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization had just come to fame for discovering a virulent strain of mousepox, which could be modified to affect smallpox.
-- Circumstance of Death: died at work in Geelong, Australia, in a laboratory accident. He entered an airlocked storage lab and died from exposure to nitrogen.

January 2002 - Ivan Glebov and Alexi Brushlinski.

-- Expertise: Two microbiologists. Both were well known around the world and members of the Russian Academy of Science.
-- Circumstance of Death: Glebov died as the result of a bandit attack and Brushlinski was killed in Moscow.

January 28, 2002 - David W. Barry, 58

-- Expertise: Scientist who codiscovered AZT, the antiviral drug that is considered the first effective treatment for AIDS.
-- Circumstance of Death: unknown

Feb. 9, 2002 - Victor Korshunov, 56

-- Expertise: Expert in intestinal bacteria of children around the world
-- Circumstance of Death: bashed over the head near his home in Moscow.

Feb. 14, 2002 - Ian Langford, 40

-- Expertise: expert in environmental risks and disease.
-- Circumstance of Death: found dead in his home near Norwich, England, naked from the waist down and wedged under a chair.

Feb. 28, 2002 - Tanya Holzmayer, 46

- -Expertise: a Russian who moved to the U.S. in 1989, focused on the part of the human molecular structure that could be affected best by medicine.
-- Circumstance of Death: killed by fellow microbiologist Guyang (Matthew) Huang, who shot her seven times when she opened the door to a pizza delivery. Then he shot himself.

Feb. 28, 2002 - Guyang Huang, 38

-- Expertise: Microbiologist
-- Circumstance of Death: Apparently shot himself after shooting fellow microbiologist, Tanya Holzmayer, seven times.

March 24, 2002 - David Wynn-Williams, 55

-- Expertise: Respected astrobiologist with the British Antarctic Survey, who studied the habits of microbes that might survive in outer space.
-- Circumstance of Death: Died in a freak road accident near his home in Cambridge, England. He was hit by a car while he was jogging.

March 25, 2002 - Steven Mostow, 63

-- Expertise: Known as "Dr. Flu" for his expertise in treating influenza, and a noted expert in bioterrorism of the Colorado Health Sciences Centre.
-- Circumstance of Death: died when the airplane he was piloting crashed near Denver.

August 05, 2002 - David R. Knibbs, PhD, 49

-- Expertise: Director of Electron Microscopy at Hartford Hospital and had a doctorate in pathobiology from the University of Connecticut. He also served as an adjunct faculty member at the University of Hartford.
-- Circumstance of Death: He collapsed and died after an evening
run (one of his joys in life).

Nov. 12, 2002 - Benito Que, 52

-- Expertise: Expert in infectious diseases and cellular biology at the Miami Medical School
-- Circumstance of Death: Que left his laboratory after receiving a telephone call. Shortly afterward he was found comatose in the parking lot of the Miami Medical School. He died without regaining consciousness. Police said he had suffered a heart attack. His family insisted he had been in perfect health and claimed four men attacked him. But, later, oddly, the family inquest returned a verdict of death by natural causes.

April 2003 - Carlo Urbani, 46

-- Expertise: A dedicated and internationally respected Italian epidemiologist, who did work of enduring value combating infectious illness around the world.
-- Circumstance of Death: Died in Bangkok from SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) - the new disease that he had helped to identify. Thanks to his prompt action, the epidemic was contained in Vietnam. However, because of close daily contact with SARS patients, he contracted the infection. On March 11, he was admitted to a hospital in Bangkok and isolated. Less than three weeks later he died.

June 24, 2003 - Dr. Leland Rickman of UCSD, 47

-- Expertise: An expert in infectious disease who helped the county prepare to fight bioterrorism after Sept. 11.
-- Circumstance of Death: He was in the African nation of Lesotho with Dr. Chris Mathews of UCSD, the director of the university's Owen Clinic for AIDS patients. Dr. Rickman had complained of a headache and had gone to lie down. When he didn't appear for dinner, Mathews checked on him and found him dead. A cause has not yet been determined.



July 18, 2003 - Dr. David Kelly, 59

-- Expertise: Biological warfare weapons specialist, senior post at the Ministry of Defense, an expert on DNA sequencing when he was head of microbiology at Porton Down and worked with two American scientists, Benito Que, 52, and Don Wiley, 57.
-- Helped Vladimir Pasechnik found Regma Biotechnologies, which has a contract with the U.S. Navy for "the diagnostic and therapeutic treatment of anthrax"
-- Circumstance of Death: He was found dead after seemingly slashing his wrist in a wooded area near his home at Southmoor, Oxfordshire.



Oct 11, 2003 - Michael Perich, 46

-- Expertise: LSU professor who helped fight the spread of the West Nile virus. Perich worked with the East Baton Rouge Parish Mosquito Control and Rodent Abatement District to determine whether mosquitoes in the area carried West Nile.
-- Circumstance of Death: Walker Police Chief Elton Burns said Sunday that Perich of 5227 River Bend Blvd., Baton Rouge, crashed his Ford pickup truck about 4:30 a.m. Saturday, while heading west on Interstate 12 in Livingston Parish. Perich's truck veered right off the highway about 3 miles east of Walker, flipped and landed in rainwater, Burns said. Perich, who was wearing his seat belt, drowned. The cause of the crash is under investigation, Burns said.
"Mike is one of the few entomologists with the experience to go out and save lives today."
~ Robert A. Wirtz, chief of entomology at the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

November 22, 2003 - Robert Leslie Burghoff, 45

-- Expertise: He was studying the virus that was plaguing cruise ships until he was killed by a mysterious white van in November of 2003
-- Circumstance of Death: Burghoff was walking on a sidewalk along the 1600 block of South Braeswood when a white van jumped the curb and hit him at 1:35 p.m. Thursday, police said. The van then sped away. Burghoff died an hour later at Memorial Hermann Hospital.

December 18, 2003 - Robert Aranosia, 61

-- Expertise: Oakland County deputy medical examiner
-- Circumstance of Death: He was driving south on I-75 when his pickup truck went off the freeway near a bridge over the Kawkawlin River. The vehicle rolled over several times before landing in the median. Aranosia was thrown from the vehicle and ended up on the shoulder of the northbound lanes.

January 6, 2004 - Dr Richard Stevens, 54

-- Expertise: A haematologist. (Haematologists analyse the cellular composition of blood and blood producing tissues eg bone marrow)
-- Circumstance of Death: Disappeared after arriving for work on 21 July, 2003. A doctor whose disappearance sparked a national manhunt, killed himself because he could not cope with the stress of a secret affair, a coroner has ruled.

January 23 2004 - Dr. Robert E. Shope, 74

-- Expertise: One of the world's top experts on viruses and infectious illnesses who was the principal author of a highly publicized 1992 report by the National Academy of Sciences warning of the possible emergence of new and unsettling infectious illnesses. He had accumulated his own collection of virus samples gathered from all over the world and worked on a Defense Department project to develop antidotes to viral agents that terrorists might use.
-- Circumstance of Death: The cause was complications of a lung transplant he received in December, said his daughter Deborah Shope of Galveston. Dr. Shope had pulmonary fibrosis, a disease of unknown origin that scars the lungs.

January 24 2004 - Dr. Michael Patrick Kiley, 62

-- Expertise: One of the world's leading microbiologists and an expert in developing and overseeing multiple levels of biocontainment facilities. He was at the forefront in the early studies of Lassa fever, the Ebola virus and mad cow disease while at the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta, Ga.
-- Circumstance of Death: Died of massive heart attack. Coincidently, both Dr. Shope and Dr. Kiley were working on the lab upgrade to BSL 4 at the UTMB Galvaston lab for Homeland Security. The lab would have to be secure to house some of the deadliest pathogens of tropical and emerging infectious disease as well as bioweaponized ones.

March 13, 2004 - Vadake Srinivasan

-- Expertise: Was one of the most-accomplished and respected industrial biologists in academia, and held two doctorate degrees.
-- Circumstance of Death: He died in a mysterious single car accident in Baton Rouge, La. Crashed car into a guard rail and ruled a stroke.

April 12, 2004 - Ilsley Ingram, 84

-- Expertise: Director of the Supraregional Haemophilia Reference Centre and the Supraregional Centre for the Diagnosis of Bleeding Disorders at the St. Thomas Hospital in London.
-- Circumstance of Death: unknown

May 5, 2004 - William T. McGuire, 39

-- Expertise: NJ University Professor and Senior programmer analyst and adjunct professor at the New Jersey Institute of Technology in Newark.
-- Circumstance of Death: His dismembered body was found floating in three suitcases in the Chesapeake Bay.

May 14, 2004 - Dr. Eugene F. Mallove, 56

-- Expertise: Mallove was well respected for his knowledge of cold fusion. He had just published an open letter outlining the results of and reasons for his last 15 years in the field of new energy research. Dr. Mallove was convinced it was only a matter of months before the world would actually see a free energy device.
-- Circumstance of Death: Died after being beaten to death during an alleged robbery.

May 25, 2004 - Antonina Presnyakova

-- Expertise: Former Soviet biological weapons laboratory in Siberia --Circumstance of Death: Died after accidentally sticking herself with a needle laced with Ebola.

June 22, 2004 - Thomas Gold, 84

--Expertise: He was the founder, and for twenty years the director, of the Cornell Center for Radiophysics and Space Research, where he was a close colleague of Planetary Society co-founder Carl Sagan. Gold was famous for his provocative, controversial, and sometimes outrageous theories. Gold,s theory of the deep hot biosphere holds important ramifications for the possibility of life on other planets, including seemingly inhospitable planets within our own solar system. Gold sparked controversy in 1955 when he suggested that the Moon's surface is covered with a fine rock powder.
--Circumstance of Death: Died of heart failure.

June 24, 2004 - Dr. Assefa Tulu, 45

-- Expertise: Dr. Tulu joined the health department in 1997 and served for five years as the county's lone epidemiologist. He was charged with tracking the health of the county, including the spread of diseases, such as syphilis, AIDS and measles. He also designed a system for detecting a bioterrorism attack involving viruses or bacterial agents. Tulu often coordinated efforts to address major health concerns in Dallas County, such as the West Nile virus outbreaks of the past few years, and worked with the media to inform the public.
-- Circumstance of Death: Dallas County's chief epidemiologist, was found at his desk, died of a
stroke.

June 27, 2004 - Dr Paul Norman, Of Salisbury, Wiltshire, 52

-- Expertise: He was the chief scientist for chemical and biological defence at the Ministry of Defence's laboratory at Porton Down, Wiltshire. He travelled the world lecturing on the subject of weapons of mass destruction.
-- Circumstance of Death: Died when the Cessna 206 crashed shortly after taking off from Dunkeswell Airfield on Sunday. A father and daughter also died at the scene, and 44-year-old parachute instructor and Royal Marine Major Mike Wills later died in the hospital.
news.bbc.co.uk...

June 29, 2004 - John Mullen, 67

--Expertise: A nuclear research scientist with McDonnell Douglas.
--Circumstance of Death: Died from a huge dose of poisonous arsenic.
(Note: McDonnell Douglas did not exist in 2004. It merged with Boeing in 1997.)

July 1, 2004 - Edward Hoffman, 62

-- Expertise: Aside from his role as a professor, Hoffman held leadership positions within the UCLA medical community. Worked to develop the first human PET scanner in 1973 at Washington University in St. Louis.
-- Circumstance of Death: unknown

July 2, 2004 - Larry Bustard, 53

-- Expertise: A Sandia scientist who helped develop a foam spray to clean up congressional buildings and media sites during the anthrax scare in 2001. Worked at Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque. His team came up with a new technology used against biological and chemical agents.
-- Circumstance of Death: unknown

July 6, 2004 - Stephen Tabet, 42

-- Expertise: An associate professor and epidemiologist at the University of Washington. A world-renowned HIV doctor and researcher who worked with HIV patients in a vaccine clinical trial for the HIV Vaccine Trials Network.
-- Circumstance of Death: Died of an unknown illness

July 21, 2004 - Dr Bassem al-Mudares

-- Expertise: He was a phD chemist
-- Circumstance of Death: His mutilated body was found in the city of Samarra, Iraq and had been tortured before being killed.

July 21, 2004: Dr. John Badwey 54

-- Expertise: Scientist and accidental politician when he opposed disposal of sewage waste program of exposing humans to sludge. Biochemist at Harvard Medical School specializing in infectious diseases.
-- Circumstance of Death: Suddenly developed pneumonia like symptoms then died in two weeks.

August 12, 2004 - Professor John Clark

-- Expertise: Head of the science lab which created Dolly the sheep. Prof Clark led the Roslin Institute in Midlothian, one of the world,s leading animal biotechnology research centres. He played a crucial role in creating the transgenic sheep that earned the institute worldwide fame.
-- Circumstance of Death: He was found hanging in his holiday home.

September 5, 2004 - Mohammed Toki Hussein al-Talakani

-- Expertise: Iraqi nuclear scientist. He was a practising nuclear physicist since 1984.
-- Circumstance of Death: He was shot dead in Mahmudiya, south of Baghdad.

October 13, 2004 - Matthew Allison, 32

-- Expertise: (please help provide information - thank you MJH)
Fatal explosion of a car parked at an Osceola County, Fla., Wal-Mart store was no accident, Local 6 News has learned. Found inside a burned car. Witnesses said the man left the store at about 11 p.m. and entered his Ford Taurus car when it exploded. Investigators said they found a Duraflame log and propane canisters on the front passenger's seat.

November 2, 2004 - John R. La Montagne

-- Expertise: Head of US Infectious Diseases unit under Tommie Thompson. Was NIAID Deputy Director.
-- Circumstance of Death: Died while in Mexico, no cause stated.

December 21, 2004 - Taleb Ibrahim al-Daher

-- Expertise - Iraqi nuclear scientist
-- Circumstance of Death: He was shot dead north of Baghdad by unknown gunmen. He was on his way to work at Diyala University when armed men opened fire on his car as it was crossing a bridge in Baqouba, 57 km northeast of Baghdad. The vehicle swerved off the bridge and fell into the Khrisan river. Al-Daher, who was a professor at the local university, was removed from the submerged car and rushed to Baqouba hospital where he was pronounced dead.

December 29, 2004 - Tom Thorne and Beth Williams

-- Expertise: Two wild life scientists, Husband-and-wife wildlife veterinarians who were nationally prominent experts on chronic wasting disease and brucellosis
-- Circumstance of Death: They were killed in a snowy-weather crash on U.S. 287 in northern Colorado.

January 7, 2005 - Jeong H. Im, 72

-- Expertise: A retired research assistant professor at the University of Missouri-Columbia. Primarily a protein chemist.
-- Circumstance of Death: He was stabbed several times and his body was found in the trunk of his burning white, 1995 Honda inside the Maryland Avenue parking garage.

January 24, 2005 - Roger L. Blair, 54

-- Expertise: He worked for the Kennedy Space center as a micro-biologist and most recently for Wuesthoff Medical Center as a Medical Laboratory Technician.
-- Circumstance of Death: Died suddenly

April 5, 2005 - Barbara Kalow, 45

-- Expertise: A FEDERAL government veterinary scientist and was a researcher before being hired by the feds in 1992 as a meat inspector.
She then moved to veterinary biologics and was promoted to the science branch to advise on animal health issues.
-- Circumstance of Death: She died of asphyxiation after being smothered by a pillow in her hotel room while on vacation in Arizona.

Aril 18, 2005 - Douglas Passaro, 43

-- Expertise: He was an associate professor of epidemiology at the University of Illinois at Chicago School of Public Health and had been an outbreak investigator with the Epidemic Intelligence Service for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention before completing an Infectious Diseases Fellowship at Stanford University in 2001.
-- Circumstance of Death: Died suddenly at his Oak Park home.

May 8, 2005 - David Banks, 55

-- Expertise: He was the principal scientist with Biosecurity Australia and was involved in containing pest and disease threats. His primary mission was protecting livestock and plants in the country, and keeping diseases from crossing into Australia. He was an expert in the propagation of diseases by insect vectors, among other things.

-- Circumstance of Death: He died along with 15 other people when the commuter plane he was traveling in went down in Queensland, Australia.

May 20, 2005 - Robert J. Lull, 64

-- Expertise: A prominent physician at San Francisco General Hospital who once headed the San Francisco Medical Society. Lull focused on improvements in diagnosis and treatment of thyroid cancer. Lull was a highly revered expert in the field of nuclear medicine, a specialty that performs diagnostic screens such as bone scans for cancer patients. Last year, Lull lectured in San Francisco about the threat of nuclear terrorism.
-- Circumstance of Death: He was found stabbed to death inside the doorway of his Diamond Heights home.

June 7, 2005 - Leonid Strachunsky (age unknown)

-- Expertise: World Health Organization expert and director of the Anti-Microbe Therapy Research Institute who specialized in creating microbes resistant to biological weapons, to the hepatitis outbreak.
-- Circumstance of Death: He was found dead in his hotel room in Moscow, where he came from Smolensk en route to the United States. He had been hit on the head with a champagne bottle, and some of his possessions were missing.


www.rense.com...



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posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 03:23 AM
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But that just makes this even more scary.
WTF's going on.
Ok, sure some might of died tragically, but all of them.

Did we make a deal in 1947 with one particular alien species, and knock back another.

I wish we had taken the offer from the more peaceful race, although that would mean giving up all nuclear weapons.
Which as stated in the video, at that time, it would never of been an option.

Were these people a threat to national security, or just pissed off the people in the know.

I feel we are coming to times where we may have some sort of disclosure, but perfectly controlled by the people that control everything else in this world.



posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 03:32 AM
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Feb. 14, 2002 - Ian Langford, 40

-- Expertise: expert in environmental risks and disease.
-- Circumstance of Death: found dead in his home near Norwich, England, naked from the waist down and wedged under a chair.

Expertise: Scientist at the Royal College of Military Science. He had been working on testing titanium for its resistance to explosives and the use of computer analysis of signals from metals.
-- Circumstance of Death: Found dead allegedly from carbon monoxide poisoning, in his Oxfordshire garage. The circumstances of his death raised some elements of doubt. His wife had found him on his back with his head parallel to the rear car bumper and his mouth in line with the exhaust pipe, with the car engine running. Police were apparently baffled as to how he could have manoeuvred into the position in which he was found.
-- Coroner's verdict: Open.

1996 - Tsunao Saitoh, 46

-- Expertise: A leading Alzheimer's researcher
-- Circumstance of Death: He and his 13 year-old daughter were killed in La Jolla, California, in what a Reuters report described as a "very professionally done" shooting. He was dead behind the wheel of the car, the side window had been shot out, and the door was open. His daughter appeared to have tried to run away and she was shot dead, also.

Expertise: Expert in DNA sequencing and pathogenic micro-organisms, founding member of the Virginia Biotechnology Association, and the Executive Director of Research and Development at Virginia´s Center for Innovative Technology in Herndon.
-- Circumstance of Death: stabbed and slashed with what police believe was a sword in his farmhouse in Leesberg, Va. His daughter, who identifies herself as a pagan high priestess, and several of her fellow pagans have been charged.

The above lot are very weird, plus theres more odd ones there......

Makes you think......



posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 03:37 AM
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Than there is the scientist that went missing that was linked on Tom Bearden's site than there was the NASA guy..what was his name?

What do they learn that requires death?

Should it be kept secret?



posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 04:59 AM
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Originally posted by japike


What do they learn that requires death?



The truth



posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 05:31 AM
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www.cyberclass.net...

Here is a little bit of it.

"Cooper had made it known that he would take action against law enforcement from years back stating, "trespassers will be shot on discovery." He also denied violating any laws during that period as well. Cooper has a history of harassing and threatening local residents with deadly force, according to the report. He was recently charge with aggravated assault and endangerment, as well as wanted by the U.S. Marshall's Service on unrelated felony charges. Cooper had spent the last month challenging the government's claims about what caused the destruction of the World Trade Center on September 11.

Most who knew of Cooper all state that he was a hard man to get along with - if at all. His demeanor and attitude was
"unfriendly" at best. Although state-sponsored media called Cooper a "national militia leader", no one has yet to come forward who was under his command, nor has anyone to this point come forward to claim his 'militia rank'. None of those who
knew Cooper and spoke to Sierra Times wanted to go on the record, but the best statement was, "he was a son-of a bitch,
but he was our son-of-a bitch".

The new Patriot Act of 2001 has many wondering if the Cooper take down was just the beginning in silencing the voices on opposition in the Country. "Are they just starting in alphabetical order?" one person asked. Cooper was best known for being the first to provide evidence of explosives being found inside the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995, including the type of explosive used.

According to his webmaster, "It appears at this time to be totally unrelated to the disputes he had with the federal government." There were no federal agents involved with the gunfight."

He died very close after 9/11.....?

I more interested in the whole picture, not just william.
As thats what we(humanity)need to find out.

Its the answer to everything concerning this alien subject.



posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 05:45 AM
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yawp.com...

COOPER, MILTON WILLIAM
"Known as Bill Cooper, this is one man who the UFO community does not trust anymore. He used to work for the US Air Force and claims to have then moved on into Naval Intelligence. He made his debut on PARANET with a report on a UFO sighting he had whilst on the USS Tiru, a US Naval submarine. That report was accepted in good faith. He then began to send in details about various secret projects that he alleged the US governments were involved in during his time in intelligence. When asked for evidence to back his claims up by UFO researchers, he replied abusively. His reports continued to be sent in and the researchers still questioned him about backup evidence. Eventually he was barred from Paranet. He still wrote the reports and sent them into various bulletin boards anonymously, this time accusing the UFO researchers that questioned his authenticity as people who are working for the government to spread DISINFORMATION to the public. Bill Cooper is now a highly paid lecturer who lectures about his "experiences"and also claims that JFK was assassinated by the driver of the car because he wanted to make details about UFOs public and that we had bases on the Moon and on Mars built in the 1950's. Evidence : none for the bases and a seventh generation copy of the film showing the assassination that is very bad quality. He also claims that the aliens in US TV series "Alien Nation" are real aliens who were employed as part of an indoctrination program so that the public will accept the reality of aliens more easily. Bill Cooper's sources for his hypothesis is a mixture of the claims of PAUL BENNEWITZ, BILL MOORE, JOHN LEAR and BOB LAZAR and added a few unfounded theories he invented himself. When Bob Lazar was on a phone-in in 1989 ("Billy Goodman's Happening", 21/11/89) whilst he was going public, Cooper called in and said that he had talked to Lazar for over a year and that he had checked out his claims and they are all genuine. Then, some months later, Cooper changes his mind and says that Lazar is a fraud and had always known he was a fraud ever since he first went public. This is just one example of the many U-turns and inconsistencies that Cooper has carried out over the years. "

Any ATS members got a good idea of who is the real deal and who is not.??




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posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 05:58 PM
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I made this Video Bill Cooper into a MP3 and listen to it at work today WOW !. Aliens showed US Airforce a hologram of jesus's crusafiction ?. Does anyone have more info on this ?



posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 06:24 PM
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I am a big Cooper fan, and he told us he would be assassinated by the Feds.
Alien Nation was/ is real.
Moon is a base for aliens on the dark side.
Mars is being terraformed according to Cooper and Sir Arthur Clarke.I had a picture of the mars vegetation, but it FRIED my system and the site was closed down.
Lazar knows a lot, but also embellishes.
I know of the hologramming of Jesus coming back and BVM, so I quess the crucifixion would be easy too.
I have an original uncut tape that was enhanced by the Japanese for Cooper of Zapruder film, and the Japanese believe it with all their being..
There is on that tape a meeting of Congress that is deciding whether to approve of a fish-poison handgun shells and it was approved, BUT why was it a Congressional decision...accuracy, fatalism, and cannot be traced.



posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 07:02 PM
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Originally posted by siriuslyone

I have an original uncut tape that was enhanced by the Japanese for Cooper of Zapruder film



Please tell me you are going to post a copy of that ?



posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by helium3

Originally posted by siriuslyone

I have an original uncut tape that was enhanced by the Japanese for Cooper of Zapruder film



Please tell me you are going to post a copy of that ?


I have no idea how to put a tape onto a computer, sorry...



posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 07:08 PM
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They are not dead, but certain people just made it seem that way.They are now part of some international think tank that once you join you can't leave. Off planet even. Could be good film script here!



posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 07:17 PM
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siriuslyone: then what does your version contain that the rest of us have not seen

Thanks...



posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 08:44 PM
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siriuslyone

I have no idea how to put a tape onto a computer, sorry...


Well I do, and I'd be happy to convert a copy of your tape into a web safe format...

contact info can be found at:

www.torbtown.com...





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