If someone could send a ROV down into the mineshaft, that would help a ton. Of course, the chance of that happening is near zero.

Do you think the bell could be a bomb or reactor for heating up
water for stream and electricity.
I didn't get much out of what I have seen.

At least the second (Dugway) image reminds me of what is called a 'swirl test rig', when they are harmonizing airflows, blade pitch settings and anti-torque pedal transients on new helicopters, they chain them down in what amounts to a 360` backstop chainlink fenced enclosure so that if the aircraft goes nuts, none of the test engineers get spiked by flying debris from the high power settings used to simulate actual flight.

Now, that said, the Bell supposedly used torsion fields from direct separation of the magnetic and inertial components of high density metallic compounds (Mercury and Thorium among others) as a means to induce a vorticular 'current' of gravimetric mass change.

It was Schauberger's 'Repulsine' which actually used a turbine type compressor wheel to duct (or ejectorize) an electrostatically charged, ionized, 'glow trail' of air driven thrust.

Does it matter? It might. When Podletknov did the most recent experiments, he was -pushing away- things rather than simply generating a local, internal, perturbation of the gravity field, to lift the object within the established gravity field. This beam of projected lowered gravitic effect was visible as a modifier to channeled cigarette smoke I believe it was, all the way to the top of the multistory building where the experiments took place. Podletknov also has supposely admitted that -his- version of the Agrav device is based, not on high voltage EM compression but rather on Schauburger's -physical- 'implosion' based phenomena (his father, also a materials engineer, got some of Schauberger's papers from the NKVD, back in 1945...).

My own views: there is so much Holocaust apologizing in the Cook work that I find it likely tainted by establishment spin control. i.e. 'too evil to pursue because it was Nazi'.

This covers up for a lot of poor research (all the documents from the German central archives for instance) on everything from materials and labor sourcing (there will be a lot of paperwork feel girder forgings in a wartime Reich pressed for strategic materials, even if it leads to a 'blank account number' under the SS purview), absent pursuit of period witnesses (church records, census and German newspaper advertising) as well as the -physical- evidence of everything from radioactive residues in a gamma saturated cement columns, GPR maps of what lies under the flytrap and indeed, within the mine. And so on.

While I am not saying that this rumor is entirely fake, the usual pyramid of proof starts with physical evidence, continues through documentation and ONLY then finishes with corroborating, independent, witness testimony.

I do doubt if the Poles or the NKVD were either technical experts or terribly kind in their torture of Sporrenberg. Dead mean will still say a lot of lies to make their final living moments less painful.

The fact that there was _not_ a MASSIVE manhunt, down into South America, in pursuit of these fleeing Nazis is also highly telling to me. Stalin was absolutely paranoid about the subject, particularly with regard to Hitler's possible escape. Yet nobody ran down the ratlines, back in 194x? Unbelievable. And yes, I know about Antarctica. I'm talking about obvious things like the experimental research institute for high energy physics that Peron established in a country that was, overall, barely into the 20th century. A few photos snapped there would tell a huge story.

I'm talking about obvious things like the experimental research institute for high energy physics that Peron established in a country that was, overall, barely into the 20th century.

Do you mean Argentina? In the earlier parts of the 20th century, Argentina was a wealthy country, on par with Western Europe. After the destruction of Europe in WW2, it continued to be relatively wealthy and had numerous emigres and intellectuals from Europe pre and post-war (though not as much as the USA of course).

Subsequent decades economic and political mismanagement brought it to where it is now.

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The Bell makes a good story and the gullible believe the twisted tale which has been weaved around it using historical figures. The fact remains that none of the supposed evidence can be corroborated and many of the supposed "interviews" never existed. Especially this supposed interrogation of Sporrenburg.

Originally posted by mad scientist
The Bell makes a good story and the gullible believe the twisted tale which has been weaved around it using historical figures. The fact remains that none of the supposed evidence can be corroborated and many of the supposed "interviews" never existed. Especially this supposed interrogation of Sporrenburg.

What effort have you ever made to verify anything mad scientist?

That would be too far out of your comfort zone to risk being wrong. Easier to sit in your armchair and snipe away.

Nazi Bell-disambiguation

Henge
Uranium breeder (DOR)
Chicken breeder (UFO)

Henge
As a henge, coal had to be transported from the mine. Their trains ran on coal. They require water for their boilers. That is where they fueled up.

Engine runs under tower with empty cars onto turntable, tracks are switched, boiler is refilled, train departs with cars of coal

Uranium breeder
Down in a mineshaft? Perhaps, but the hearsay points to deadly orgone generation, or experimentation with the "third" force as radioisotopes. Makes sense for an unexpected detonation. Still highly speculative.

Chicken breeder
Adamski style UFO. Referred to as Christmas bells in newspapers when spotted over England at Christmas time. "Knockers" rotate, but don't show up in stills.

This, IMO, is the source of the legend.

Nazi Belle.



Although it appears I am being funny, there is a serious component to the twin research of Mengele.