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reply posted on 5-8-2006 @ 10:27 AM by Stealth Spy
NEW DELHI, AUGUST 3 :A team from Russia’s Sukhoi Design Bureau and Irkut gave a detailed classified presentation to the Defence Ministry on Thursday on its fifth generation fighter concept, but discrepancies have already begun to surface between New Delhi and Moscow over the proposed multi-billion dollar joint programme to develop and produce advanced stealth fighters for both countries in the next decade.

In essence, South Block has communicated to Moscow that the Russian fifth generation fighter programme, designated PAK-FA, is already at an advanced stage of design, which effectively negates the aspect of ‘‘joint-development’’ and has asked it to come up with a more ‘‘equal’’ proposal. The Sukhoi-led consortium’s concept, based on the PAK-FA, is being pitched vigorously to India as part of a protocol signed by the two countries in 2004 to build a fifth generation fighter.

In fact, the government plans to tell Moscow in December at the sixth meeting of the India-Russia Inter-Government Commission that if billions of dollars are to flow from the Indian side for the joint project, Moscow needs a partner because its budget will not allow it to develop alone, then the IAF and HAL must be on board from scratch, so that the aircraft platform incorporates IAF operational needs as well.

At the most basic level, the wish-list that the IAF has for a fifth generation fighter, which should ideally begin flying operationally between 2015-2020, includes comprehensive stealth, a single engine , supercruise capabilities, an active electronically scanned array (AESA) combat radar and swing-role capabilities.


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Although this news is particularly rosy for the proposed joint development, it atleast confirms that India is involved in the PAK-FA programme.

It is also interesting how this programme would interfere with the MCA project. The same article also reads ...
The fifth generation joint project is still a futuristic one, though it was clear from Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee’s comments in Parliament today, that the government is taking strong note of lessons learnt from the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) programme for its other proposed project, the Medium Combat Aircraft (MCA).

‘‘For expediting development work on MCA, government may consider collaboration with friendly countries,’’ he said. The Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) in Bangalore has already begun to conceptualise the MCA, possibly as India’s fifth-generation platform.


Perhaps this indicates that the MCA and the PAK-FA are both on and equivalents of the F-35 and the F-22 respectively.

[edit on 5/8/06 by Stealth Spy]



reply posted on 28-9-2006 @ 07:55 AM by CosmicScorpion
Check this link www.worthey.net... and compare yourself. Their facilities are good (Why China and Japan are missing in the list? Is this an old list or incomplete? Someone care explaining?) And their hypersonic WT is also missing.

I thought their hyper thing is a very recent activity (June 2005: India's VSSC has begun work on its first hypersonic wind tunnel (HWT), India's maiden hypersonic wind tunnel under construction ). But, it goes way back to early 90's. Check the résumé of this guy (activities on 1992). IMO, it may go well back to 80's. Of course, one cann't start things just like that.

Check out this column as well Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore

Most of my [other] refs are from scientific community (they don't boast), not mainly from media.

[edit on 28-9-2006 by CosmicScorpion]


reply posted on 28-9-2006 @ 10:56 AM by CosmicScorpion
Check this out

As I suspected, early work on HWT has been started on 1986, as per the above site.
Their FM Re (Reynold's #) and Mach range are quite interesting, comparing to these. Quite impressive for a developing nation


reply posted on 17-12-2006 @ 02:07 AM by Daedalus3
IAF pondering on getting C-130s:
This article is a little old but there's been a bit of a buzz on the local networks about this recently, so maybe its more of a possibility now..
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