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UFO's over washington 1952

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posted on Sep, 22 2003 @ 03:10 PM
how come this story isn't even more talked about than roswell it sounds amazing to me if you look at the pics of the ufo's over the whitehouse it looks as if they are all the same big at the front and then with a kind of tail

"These blips were objects traveling at about 100 m.p.h. but with the ability to accelerate to the unbelievable speed of 7,200 m.p.h. The Washington National sighting was confirmed by other local radar, and then Andrews Air Force Base was contacted"

they could reach speed of just over 7,000 mph nothing that i have heard of could even get close to those speeds 50 years ago.

what does everyone else think?


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posted on Sep, 22 2003 @ 03:12 PM
I've seen these pictures many, many times. I've never heard any explanation.

posted on Sep, 22 2003 @ 03:16 PM
yeah me to with roswell there is so many stories even today there is a different story everytime you hear about it but this has been strangely covered up and a good job of it to


posted on Sep, 22 2003 @ 03:23 PM
No coverup here...they simply quit talking about it...

In retrospect...seems like a damned good tactic, if you haven't heard of this until now...

Even Project Bluebook would also dismiss the "temperature inversion" explanation, as it later labeled the Washington sightings as "unknown."

Yep, temperature inversion was always a favorite of the Blue Book team...and even they didn't let it stick for this one, hehe....

As for Roswell, you had:

1. Declaration of capture of a saucer, by an Army news officer.
2. Numerous eyewitnesses that not only saw the wreckage, but handled the debris.
3. Subsequent denial of the story, and a ridiculous coverup.
4. A coverup so ridiculous in fact, that they felt the need to even try to cover it up again recently, and with a project that didn't occur until years after Roswell!

5. Actual recovered bodies and technology taken.

Of COURSE Roswell gets more attention....

[Edited on 22-9-2003 by Gazrok]

posted on Sep, 22 2003 @ 05:28 PM


This is an interesting story, and it does warrant further investigation.

"Spaceships or Mirages over Washington National Airport, 1952?"

The Fund for UFO Research's (FUFOR) latest offering gives Ufologists access to two important historical documents about the events over Washington, D. C. during the 1952 UFO wave.

"Minutes of the Press Conference Held by Major General John A. Samford, Director of US Air Force Intelligence 27 July 1952" has generally not been available. Along with MG Samford, the USAF Director of Intelligence, participating in the press conference were Major General Roger M. Ramey, Director of Operations, USAF, COL Donald L. Bower, Technical Analysis Div., ATIC, CPT Roy L. James, Electronic Branch, ATIC, CPT Edward J. Ruppelt, Aerial Phenomena Branch, ATIC, and Mr. Burgoyne L. Griffing, Electronics Branch, ATIC.

Statements by Stamford and the others shows that they did not have the complete story at their fingertips. The questions from the press were pointed and inquiring. Stamford uttered his famous line about "creditable people reporting incredible things." Attendence at this press conference was the highest since World War II.

During the rather long press conference, MG Samford, in many answers, made carefully qualified remarks. His comments distilled down by the press in large headlines reported the conference as a debunking session. While there is not question that the Air Force wanted to regain control of the situation, the conference was not the complete debunking session that was later reported.

CPT Ruppelt, in his private papers, would later record Samford's disappointment with the press and especially Keyhoe. Ruppelt speculated that the latter was the cause of later withholding of UFO information.

It will be obvious from the text that Samford, Ramey, and the others were not well prepared to handle specific questions about the Washington, D. C. sightings. It is my impression that the temperature inversion explanation was just being floated as a trail balloon to give the Air Force a respite from constant press inquiries. Later, the explanation would be carved in stone.

The second paper prepared by the USAF Environmental Technical Application Center (ETAC) in April 1969 examined the inversion explanation in detail. UFO proponents will be shocked at the paper's conclusion.

"Report #6112, Qulantitative Aspects of Mirages" by 1LT Frederick V. Menkello consulted a long list of publications on optics and UFOs. The Foreign Technology Division at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, requested this report from ETAC.

ETAC placed the following disclaimer on the report which almost invited further studies: "This report addresses a specific problem and is not intended to have application beyond that problem. We recommend that any questions on this or related problems be referred to USAF ETAC for further study."

[Edited on 23-9-2003 by quaneeri]

posted on Sep, 22 2003 @ 05:49 PM
hi quaneeri

good find an interesting read one of the reports says these objects reached just over 7,000 mph and they were flying in formation also the fact they came back the next night shows that they weren't debris from the skies i think anyway

definately one of the most interesting and well documented accounts i'v come across



posted on Sep, 22 2003 @ 05:52 PM
another link


posted on Sep, 22 2003 @ 05:57 PM

posted on Sep, 22 2003 @ 06:01 PM
As with all cases that cannot be adequately explained away, the tactic of media suppression ends such thoughts in the minds of people. Extraterrestrials don't exist to many people simply because the reports of credible sightings dry up with no further investigation.

Sad to see we are 51 years later with continued doubters.

posted on Sep, 22 2003 @ 06:11 PM

Diagram of the UFOs tracked by Washington's National Airport radar scope on July 20, 1952. At A, 7 objects approach the Nation's capital from the south. At B, some are seen over the White House and Capitol. At C, they appear over Andrews Air Force Base. At D, one UFO tracks an airliner. At E, one is seen to make a sharp right-angular turn.

posted on Sep, 22 2003 @ 06:17 PM
never heard about this before! roswell yes and seen most of the documentarys on it. havent come across this event in any books either

posted on Sep, 22 2003 @ 06:21 PM


Flying saucers circled the Northern Virginia area again this morning.

The CAA (1) says it's radar picked up the saucers about six straight hours early today as they circled between Herndon, and Andrews Field.

A CAA official estimated the objects were traveling between 100 and 200 hundred miles per hour in this morning's flight.

Simultaneously the Air Force stymied by the failure of its supersonic jets to intercept the flying saucers Saturday night, announced it was equipping it's planes with special cameras to help solve the mystery (2).

Jet pilots from the 142nd Interceptor Squadron at Newcastle, Del., for some time now have been on orders to shoot down any "unidentified" aircraft which ignores "orders" to land. An Air Force spokesman from the Pentagon refused to say whether the saucers fall into the "aircraft" category (3).

He said the planes have been on 24-hour alert to defend the skies ever since the out-break of the Korean War and the pilots have been issued no specific orders to shoot down "saucers."

Saucer experts from Wright Field, Ohio have been called to Washington for a special conference on the phenomenon. The group was scheduled to arrive last night, but was delayed by plane trouble and will instead meet today.

Full Story Here:

posted on Sep, 23 2003 @ 03:28 AM
You want to know how they cover things up?

It's easy when you understand psychology and sociology and use it to your advantage.

How does it work now:

1/3 are natural sceptics,
1/3 are normally sceptic,
1/3 are open minded.

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