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What if Masonry is just the scape goat?

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posted on Dec, 5 2005 @ 04:57 AM
Excuse my French but vulgarity edited

The U2U was the final straw for me.

What do the admins of this board imagine the Freemasons here get up to? Do they imagine some conspiracy where we organise ourselves in a chat program and defend Freemasonry en masse? Do they not realise that if you get 3 or 4 of the same replies to a question that is because the answer is a truthful one? There is no Masonic ATS club. There is no organised ganging up on other members. What many seem to forget is that the accusations being made here are made against other human beings. It's not like the Politics forum or UFO forum where you can shout at faceless politicians or little green men - here people shout at their fellow man. Suprisingly, the reaction to liars on this forum is no different than it is on other forums but due to some twisted little mindset and a desire to Promote Ignorance the title of this topic has become a reality. Why suprisingly? Well, imagine if you were the person being accused of pedophilia, devil worship, corruption, murder and the hundreds of other filthy lies that our detractors have made. Do you reckon you could handle it any better?

After three years I can honestly say that I've had enough of this bullcrap. If the admin and the mods want this forum to descend into a mass of untrue accusations, the best way to do that is by tieing the hands of one side of the argument.

ATS has always been a board where fairplay was a byword. That fairplay is out of the window now that one party has to look over it's shoulder all the time when replying to a topic just to appease some ridiculous paranoia.

I don't need excuses from mods or threats of banning in U2Us. There is no reasonable justification that can be bought to the table here for admin's actions.
This forum has gone to $hit, not because of the actions of Freemasons but because lies and hatred have been allowed to roam unchecked. I wouldn't mind if that were in the name of conspiracy, but 99% of the time it's in the name of hate.

I'm out.

[edit on 5-12-2005 by Leveller]

[edit on 5-12-2005 by Thomas Crowne]

posted on Dec, 5 2005 @ 05:46 AM

Originally posted by The Axeman
Here we have a group of Masons, who are very knowledgeable about the facts pertinant to the topics that frequently find their way to this forum

Ok great. I have a question for you.

Say you have a two neighbours, Bob and Joe. Bob and Joe really don't agree with eachother and Bob has even threatened to kill Joe a couple of times. Then one day Joe is found dead in his home. The police have found some evidence hinting towards that Bob might be the murderer, but nothing concrete.
You also have a hunch that Bob might've done it.
Obviously Bob doesn't want to get caught or anything, that wouldn't be good for him at all.

So, if you'd go ask Bob if he murdered Joe ... would you consider his answer reliable?
I think it's a bit of the same thing with masons. Some say masons are demon worshippers or whatever. You don't go and ask a mason if he worships demons and expect a reliable answer if that's what he is believed to do, same as you don't ask a murder suspect if he murdered someone and expect a reliable answer.

I'd rather want some answers from some unbiased source.

Anyway, back to the topic in hand.

posted on Dec, 5 2005 @ 06:30 AM

same as you don't ask a murder suspect if he murdered someone and expect a reliable answer.

Actually that is one method that investigators use . And the question is asked
in several ways.

given the logic of your statement and the events here i can only conclude
that ALLxians of All sects and denominations are psychopathic,
child molesting,alcholic,drug abusing, baby eating, rapists, and murders. As
ALL of these accusations have at one time or another throughout the
history of the pauline church been laid at their feet and even on occasion,
some proven to be fact.

By that same logic It could be said that Thomas Crowne is guilty of these same and other offences as he professes to be of the same sect as people
like Jack Chick,Texe Marr, Fred Phelps, and of course the world famous
dynamic duo of lies and bovine feces Dr Lawrence and Michelle Pazder
which of course culminated in the good Dr. banging the patient on the comfy
couch, and getting some really good memories. I wonder If Michelle really does remember? That could be construed as prostitution she was getting screwed and paying for the experience.

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