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Members of the Club

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posted on Nov, 24 2005 @ 06:03 AM
I first started looking at this question with the presumption that as all recent US leaders seem to be members of the club,Australian leaders would be too.
I assumed that club would be freemasonry,after all our first Prime Minister Edmund Barton was one,as is our current PM John Howard.Bob Hawke(83-91) was a Rhodes Scholar,Malcolm Fraser(75-83) was a Mason and of course John Howard's hero Sir Robert Menzies(49-66).It seemed only Paul Keating(91-96)was "independent".
I then noticed they were all members of another club,the Fabian Society. The Australian branch boasts former Cabinet members and State Premiers of both sides and the richest people in Australia.

List of Australian Fabian Socialists

The Fabian Society seems innocent enough,it is not a secret society as such,they invite new members to join on their website,but their historically stated intentions and views are definitely tilted toward a New World Order.
Early members included George Bernard Shaw and HG Wells who united with others to work towards a Utopian Society...sound familiar?

Their original coat of arms was a wolf in sheep's clothing,a little obvious perhaps,as it is now the tortoise,and their motto is "When I strike I strike hard".These articles provide some insight and quotes etc from the founders of Fabianism and why they dissociate from "Socialism" and all the fear that label eludes.

Liberty Australia

Overt Organisations

The British and Australians aren't too worried about secrecy it seems but the US version is.The American Fabian Society does exist but I couldn't find a page for them or a direct link.The face of Fabianism in the US is the Rand School of Economics,founded by US Fabians in 1905.I also could not find a list of the members of this organisation.

Some info on the founding of RSE

As the US Fabians are a little shy,one wonders what they are up to?As I say,it doesn't seem to be a secret society but who knows what goes on when the plebs go home and the cigars and brandy come out?I will be looking further into the Fabians and I hope other ATSer's will too.

So it seems we may be right,they're all in it together,and there are interests behind the scenes and no matter whomever wins elections the slow erosion of democracy and individual liberties will continue unabated.It just looks like it will take a little longer than we thought.

Australian Fabian Home Page

posted on Nov, 25 2005 @ 06:36 AM
I never knew about the Fabian Society. Great find, FOM.

This is pretty spooky:

Every one knows that Bob Hawke is one. In his speech to the Fabian Society in Melbourne on the 8th May 1984 one of the facts that he stated was, I quote "I gladly acknowledge the debt of my own government to Fabianism". He also said in that speech, "The Fabian Society acknowledges the principal tenet of Marxism, the abolition of private property, in this case to own land. They then align themselves with the non-violent arm of Marxism by accepting the non-violent road of patient gradualism to total government."

For those who don't know, Bob Hawke was to all appearences a populist "working-mans hero" type of Prime Minister. Later it came out that he had all sorts of shady connections and debts to big business. And now I see this, where he states, "I gladly acknowledge the debt of my own government to Fabianism", a few more pieces start to fall into place.

So it seems the Australian end of things is covered as well, in this global web of societies, both secret and not, with an apparent social agenda; a web which seems to interconnect all governments and all men of power and influence. And the two common factors these societies seem to have are:
1. Socialist philosophy, and
2. A gradualist approach to global change.

The economic failures of communism aside, socialism comes across very much indeed as a "wolf in sheep's clothing", whereby freedom and liberty are promised but in the end the people enslave themselves. In fact, all the "isms" are simply socio-manipulative scams IMHO. If the Antichrist took over tomorrow, his NWO would be socialist.

In regards to gradualism, or "incrementalism" as it is sometimes named, the scariest thing about it is that it entails plans that are intended to be carried out over centuries. What that means is that any one of the people involved in these plans will not see their achievement in his/her lifetime. And it is this key point which has me convinced that there is more to all this than a mere philosophical approach to life from men bored as a result of their affluence, rather there must be a supernatural element to it. As if the grand plan were really a GRAND PLAN.

It might be interesting to see what connections the Fabian society has to other organizations and large corporations both within Australia and internationally.

[edit on 2005-11-25 by wecomeinpeace]

posted on Nov, 25 2005 @ 07:32 AM
Stop in here and check out the pdf's called the "the Chasm". Actually, check out the news sections and everything else too - good info. Eddy is the man who also wrote THE book on the FED-JI and "A World without Cancer" and many more. He's a great man.

All of it is true about the Fabians and Leninists. Although, Griffin begins back to Russel Bertrand's/Rhodes' time, it goes back much earlier to the Web's, and before that the connections via Jesuits/Masons/RC. Illuminati was created by Jesuits connected via Vatican also.

All the best.

posted on Nov, 25 2005 @ 04:11 PM
Here are some other relevant links:
UK Fabian Society

Anyay, the Fabian Society, from what I recall, is a socialist organization that, rather than trying to start a class war, like other marxists, seeks to change society through education.

From on of your links

The name comes from the Roman general Quintus Fabius Maximus Cunctater which means "the delayer".

Ah, that makes sense. I've heard of him before. He gained victory by waiting the enemy out.

edit to add:

For what its worth, it looks like most people are saying 'so and so is a fabian' merely because they lean left, which isn't at all the same.

[edit on 25-11-2005 by Nygdan]

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