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United States Lying.




Topic started on 22-9-2003 @ 02:39 AM by 10DeadInside10


I have been thinking about this lately, and what I was thinking was, we all know that some of the main reasons for going into the Middle East and raising hell, is for the O.P.E.C. currency war. I know it's wrong for the United States to lie to its citizens, but how else would this be justifiable? It's not justifiable to storm into another country for your own benefit, but regardless, the U.S. is going to do what it wants anyways. Do you think the United States would get support for the war if they just came out and told the truth that there's no WMD and that the reason is for oil currency? Nobody would have supported the U.S. at all. Controlling the Middle East oil is priority to the United States, and doing so will secure a good future in the new century, and the government is willing to do whatever it takes to make sure this happens. But the lying really needs to be toned down a bit tho, and not used so damn much.



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reply posted on 22-9-2003 @ 02:50 AM by heelstone


They could not come out with the real reasons.

With economic collapse at stake, the U.S. is willing to do anything, including killing its own citizens, to promote military action in an attempt to at least stave off this eventuality.

If the real reasons were admitted publically, the U.S. would immediately be listed as a rogue nation. Regardless of whether or not the admission brings about global economic collapse, it would happen. Trade would be cut off and that is the very last thing the U.S. wants if it wants to survive. This would lead to an immediate depression. If the country is still around after the economic fallout, trials would begin and pave a path directly towards the truths regarding the reasons for such secrecy. It would likely reveal the government-based motivations for the 09/11/01 attacks and the whos and whats of what goes into black budget defense spending, revealing even more horrors. By the end, almost no politician would be left standing and the country would be in ruins. Albeit far wiser.

[Edited on 22-9-2003 by heelstone]



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reply posted on 22-9-2003 @ 03:14 PM by earthtone


I agree. I am highly suspicous about how much the government was involved/ allowed 9/11 to happen. There is so much crazy evidence and removal of evidence too. As for Iraq, they didn't care about lying about that, its all about "freedom" anyways apparently.



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reply posted on 22-9-2003 @ 03:33 PM by smirkley


More and more reasoning for the existance of the second constitutional amendment, is the actions of our government.

www.sightm1911.com...



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reply posted on 22-9-2003 @ 07:01 PM by 10DeadInside10


I know it's really damn selfish of the U.S. to be lying for personal gain and whiping out other countries in order to insure our prosperity later. I guess the U.S. is just trying to make sure we're here as long as possible. But isn't it kind of a good thing tho? Because if the United States didn't do anything about this weak economy, and just let it crumble, wouldn't it hurt the entire world badly too? So in a way, aren't these lies helping the world economy? Because eventually the U.S. economy will heal. Comments?



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reply posted on 23-9-2003 @ 03:19 AM by THENEO


Hey 100/10,

did you ever study history?
did columbus ever think of gain?
how about all the settlers?
How about why you exist?

puts it all in perspective doesn't it?



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reply posted on 23-9-2003 @ 03:23 AM by drunk


Whatever the subject the US alweays lies to its people Britain does the same but does it subtly.



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reply posted on 23-9-2003 @ 04:19 AM by ultra_phoenix


Is there someone who can tell me wich government is not lying to his peoples ??????????

As for Irak, it's not only for oil. It was an NWO test. I can hear Alex Jones...



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reply posted on 23-9-2003 @ 04:28 AM by MaskedAvatar


U-P

Welcome back to posting life!

Thanks for your U2U, appreciated. I am not responding to U2U's because I have too many to clear out and it doesn't work, but people get bored with hearing about that.

You have a point with the mendacity (lying) of all governments. Some tell whoppers of such enormous magnitude, and have their public defending them to the bitter end because of media controls, fear and propaganda. But never before like this in the freedom-loving USA.

Why is lying an acceptable feature of government, to you?



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reply posted on 30-9-2003 @ 09:54 AM by ultra_phoenix


Thx you MaskedAvatar. But don't worry, you didn't have to reply to my u2u.

As I'm still back in my posting live , let me ask you something. Where did I say that it's ok for a gov to lie ?

I think a gov do not have to lie ! I just tryed to say they are all liars.



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reply posted on 30-9-2003 @ 10:25 AM by kaoszero


This is a topic Dragon Rider needs to get in on, if he has the results of the O.P.E.C. currency vote. I believe that the U.S. government was involved in the 9/11 attacks to some degree, since it's now a known fact they knew about it ahead of time. I also believe that this "War on Terrorism" will end up in whatever oil producing nation Bush wants to take next. Remember Reagan's "War on Drugs"? You can't buy drugs anymore, right?



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