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NEWS: Parents Are Suing Video Game Developer For Son's Death.

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posted on Nov, 21 2005 @ 03:06 PM
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Parents of a 13 year old boy in China are suing Blizzard Entertainment for the death of their son. The boy, a member of the "World of Warcraft" 1.5 million member community, died jumping from a building. The parents say the boy was re-enacting a scene from "World of Warcraft."
 



www.shanghaidaily.com
ZHANG Chunliang, a 29-year-old expert on Internet addiction, is suing an online game producer on behalf of the parents of a 13-year-old Tianjin boy who killed himself after becoming addicted to the games, Xinhua news agency reported today.

Zhang, authorized by 63 senior members from 20 families throughout the country, plans to sue the whole online game industry soon.

The Tianjin boy played online games day and night until he killed himself last December. Earlier report said the boy left four letters and an 80,000-word note to his parents saying that he pursued the heroes in games to another world.

His parents authorized Zhang as a representative to sue the game producer in the No.2 Intermediate Court of Tianjin. The court has not yet given a decision.

Xinhua quoted Zhang as saying a child's addiction to online games can destroy a family. Online games were designed to seduce people, especially children, Zhang said.


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


I've been trying to find more information on exactly what happened to the 13 year old boy.
I am curious, where were the parents when this happened?
I've never played WoW, but what makes them think he was imitating the game? I feel sad for the parents loss, but is the video game really to blame here?
I don't believe so.


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[edit on 21/11/2005 by Umbrax]




posted on Nov, 21 2005 @ 03:11 PM
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I have played endless hours of Everquest, and have known people to be on 12-16 hours a day. But, what the parents need to realize, is that if it wasn't WoW that caused this kid's death, then something else would have. I believe it is called an addictive personality.

btw...... new game coming out, Roma-Victor. Supposedly, it is going to be tha bomb of MMORPG's. Stay tuned.



posted on Nov, 21 2005 @ 03:17 PM
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He jumped off a building?
im sorry, but a company cannot influence someone to jump to their death. If the parents were worried, they would of stopped him playing it and would of got some advice if the game influence to the point that he jumped off a building



posted on Nov, 21 2005 @ 03:21 PM
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Just wait till Jack Thompson gets ahold of this and makes it part of his crusade... Seriously why can't people own up to the fact that its their responsiblity to watch their children. Where in the heck are the parents when the kid is spending hours and hours online? If they didn't step in to stay "okay jr, you've been on long enough, go outside for a while" then its on them for not being active in their kids life. World of Warcraft is a subscription based MMO, and I would bet all my characters and all their gear that the parents happily paid the monthly fee for the game. When will people realize that there are simple ways to prevent this stuff such as active parenting instead of creating more latch-key children.



posted on Nov, 21 2005 @ 03:21 PM
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The parents obviously neglected this kid by letting him play day and night. People sue for the dumbest reasons now a days and it usually their own stupidity that causes the problem. While kids are growing they need to be fed the right type of information, not World of Warcraft. Personally, I used to play Counter-strike as a young kid, but I never thought of getting a gun and trying to kill terrorists. Maybe the kid had other issues, but with parents like his I'm sure no one ever knew.



posted on Nov, 21 2005 @ 03:31 PM
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I've found some more information regarding the boy's death.

www.bjreview.com.cn...



“I will go to court on behalf of the deceased Xiaoyi,” said Zhang who confirmed that he had begun a lawsuit last month. “It is addiction to online games that resulted in his suicide, but does this mean we can’t hold anyone accountable for his death? I want justice,” Zhang said.


I would say online addiction is a problem but is not responsible for this boy's death.



According to other gamers, Xiaoyi played online games continuously for 36 hours before he killed himself. His online notes are all stories from games, most of which, written in the first person, are characterized by a sense of magic. He mentioned time and again, “My body has already died and my soul has gone to heaven.”

Obviously the kid had mental health issues if this is what he was saying.



His father said that Xiaoyi had become very pale and weak before he jumped, and in the two days prior he had not eaten any food. His parents had allegedly not scolded him and his father said the boy had told them, “Internet games have deprived me of self-control. I’m dying.”

In my opinion this is obviously a failure of the parents. The Kid was 13 and his parents knew he isn't eating for days??
This sounds to me like these parents have been ignoring their son and don't want to get in trouble for it so they have placed the blame on a video game.
This Zhang Chunliang person should be ashamed for helping the boy's parents so he can further his own agenda.



posted on Nov, 21 2005 @ 03:46 PM
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While I do feel for their loss I also have to question their motive or, better yet, that of the attorney.

In my opinion, here is another fine example where parental supervision and/or intervention would most likely have avoided this unfortunate situation. Any attempt to hold the creator/manufacturer accountable for events resulting from their use is ridiculous.

Now, when they start making games requiring intravenous connections or with proven subliminal coercion ... that might be a different story.

Until then ... moderate, supervise and, when necessary, intercede ... after all this is your child, your responsibility, your creation.

[note to Umbrax]
Xactly

[edit on 11/21/2005 by 12m8keall2c]



posted on Nov, 21 2005 @ 04:22 PM
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yep, addictions are never the person indulging in thems fault...

it is always the companys that promote and manufacture them...

Hey, a few more of the "addictive" things out there to watch out for... get the lawsuits ready...

gambling... oh, yeah... gimmie my money back Trump
drugs... obvious sue the CIA... it is their fault... or sue the mafia...
sex... even happens to the president... but who do we sue?
porn... like above, but there are a million porn studios to sue
pizza... not quite as deadly as video games, but lots of places to sue...
hummus... can't eat just one pita chip...
food ... those damn grocery stores just keep selling it and making it... and i just can't stop eating it...
cigarettes... too cliche... well this one actually makes sense... but only because when they first came out...they were advertised as "good for you".

personal responsibility is the key... if someone can "stop" then they should...
if they can't due to situation or health, or threat... would be the only liability...

i.e. if this kid would have siezures upon quiting the game, then they could sue... or if he could not stop because of a threat of scrambling his harddrive...



posted on Nov, 21 2005 @ 05:17 PM
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so.. wait, if i tell a person to jump off a cliff and they do... I can be blamed?

Why don't we throw any claim to personal responsability out the window, and jsut sue everyone until only one person has all the money



posted on Nov, 21 2005 @ 05:24 PM
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This is not the first time something like this has happened and I am sure it will not be the last. Just a lawyer trying to make a fast buck off of a tragedy. Too bad the parents did not watch the kid closer :shk:



posted on Nov, 21 2005 @ 05:28 PM
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First of all I am surprised that China is allowing their citizens to mimic western society with video games and INTERNET access.

But they are catching up quickly to the western "make a buck fast" and what better way than using the tragic death of a child for that.

I will see more coming not only from China but from any other country, yes we all be paying for our evil western ways.

And that is how the Cookie crumbles.



posted on Nov, 21 2005 @ 05:53 PM
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This kid is/was obviously very sick, probably mentally sick before he started playing WoW.

I myself play WoW about 35-40 hours a week, almost every day after work till I go to sleep. This game is not the cause of addiction, the person who plays the game has an addictive personality to start with and then uses this game to advance the addiction.

I myself know that I play "too much" WoW, 35+ hours a week is as much as I work, which doesnt leave a lot of time of other things... You might call me a "hardcore gamer".... but, this does not mean that I sit there for days without eating, or showering, ect.

This kid IMO was neglected by his parents, I mean, who in their right mind would let a 13 year old play a game non stop for 36 hours. Its a ridiculous attempt to put the blame on a company when the blame should be taken by the parents who let/watched their child fall into sickness.

Its not the game, its the kids addiction to the game and the parents fault for seeing it when he was online for 36 hours in a row. Then to top it off, there is that quote that the boy told his dad "he was dieing".

It was the parents fault, and the kids actions, not WOW.



posted on Nov, 21 2005 @ 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043

I will see more coming not only from China but from any other country, yes we all be paying for our evil western ways.

And that is how the Cookie crumbles.


Say what? Many of those games are now made in China, Tawain and of course Japan. Once they develop them they covert them to English and sell them here. Japan BTW is noted for far more violent games then the US produces. That does not mean that some of the games are not developed here some of them are.

Considering the game was only released less then 6 months ago it would appear the kid had mental problems and that is just my Humble Opinion

www.blizzard.com...

[edit on 11/21/2005 by shots]



posted on Nov, 21 2005 @ 06:03 PM
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If this lawsuit flies, I'm suing ATS for bulletin board addiction. I think that if anyone is culpable here it has to be the parents for inadequate supervision. Clearly, the heart of the problem is with the child who couldn't distinguish fiction from reality. If the entertainment industry is held responsible for every individual who has obsessive-compulsive and reality-testing issues, there won't be much that is entertaining in the world. This is just a ridiculous as suing the firearms industry because their products work as advertised.



posted on Nov, 21 2005 @ 06:08 PM
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Back when I was growing up, 70's, my mother didn't work. She was there when I got home, supper was on the way. Dad would have shown up an hour or so after I did. We had a good life. GUESS WHAT? To have that same life today, YOU CAN"T. My wife and I both work 2 jobs(7 days a week for me, 6 for her) and are living paycheck to paycheck. One vehicle, one house, yes we own but the only luxuries we have are a decent cable provider and broadband internet. Are we seeing a theme here?

Not to mention once we get home we have to deal with HOMEWORK! 3 kids. Once supper and homework is done(about 8 pm) it's bath time, then bedtime.

Blame the parents all you want, in some cases you may be right. We are working more than twice as hard today to provide for our families than our folks had.

Give the parents a break. We sure as hell need one. You want to blame someone? Blame society. That's been done for 50 years but this time it's warrented.



posted on Nov, 21 2005 @ 06:15 PM
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Oh please, spare me! All I read in all of this is some parents looking to blame others for their incompetence ... once again. It's happening more and more and too often for my liking these days, and the more they let cases like this be heard the more they just let them get away with not taking responsibility for their own (non) actions.

The second U buy for your child or allow them to buy a video game you are responsible, nobody else.

What a joke



posted on Nov, 21 2005 @ 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid
Back when I was growing up, 70's, my mother didn't work. She was there when I got home, supper was on the way. Dad would have shown up an hour or so after I did. We had a good life. GUESS WHAT? To have that same life today, YOU CAN"T. My wife and I both work 2 jobs(7 days a week for me, 6 for her) and are living paycheck to paycheck. One vehicle, one house, yes we own but the only luxuries we have are a decent cable provider and broadband internet. Are we seeing a theme here?

Not to mention once we get home we have to deal with HOMEWORK! 3 kids. Once supper and homework is done(about 8 pm) it's bath time, then bedtime.

Blame the parents all you want, in some cases you may be right. We are working more than twice as hard today to provide for our families than our folks had.

Give the parents a break. We sure as hell need one. You want to blame someone? Blame society. That's been done for 50 years but this time it's warrented.


You are sooo wrong its not even funny.

This is a 13 year old boy who was not being contolled by his parents and being allowed to spend 36 at a time on a CPU....

IT ALL >THIS KIDS< PARENTS FAULT....

Intrepid, Im not saying its your fault, but its these parents fault for sure. Any parent who allows a child to do anything for 36 hours straight without eating is a terrible parent.

Society had no part of this IMO. The parents who didnt discipline their child, or treat him for his problems are the only people at fault here.

Edit: Im 23 years old, if this case was about myself killing myself then it would be all my fault becuase of my age... But a 13 year old boy is still in the control of his parents, or at least IMO, he should have been.

[edit on 11/21/05 by HumptyDumpty]



posted on Nov, 21 2005 @ 06:21 PM
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Originally posted by ImJaded
The second U buy for your child or allow them to buy a video game you are responsible, nobody else.

What a joke


Really? And when would those lovely folks, that are just trying to provide by working collectively for about 110 hrs/week(not including housework and homework detail) have the time to oversee this?

I'm curious, how old are you and if old enough, do you have school aged children?

I'll see your

What a joke
and raise you a



posted on Nov, 21 2005 @ 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid

Give the parents a break. We sure as hell need one. You want to blame someone? Blame society. That's been done for 50 years but this time it's warrented.


uhhh that's all well and fine, but if U can't be a responsible parent when it comes to TV, video games, the internet etc ... don't let the child have it. real simple. That's how my mama and others did it and it worked just fine.

One has nothing to do with another in regard to what U wrote and the topic at hand. I think in this scenario the parents are at fault, it has nothing to do with anybody else but the parents and the child.
Children play violent video games all the time, are they all going to do something stupid because of it ? no, not all. We're not all the same, so what ? the parents want the company to be punished for this when the same game brings some people joy. How do U rationalize this ???


GUESS WHAT? To have that same life today, YOU CAN"T.


and I think you're wrong here, U CAN. Besides not everybody absolutely must to have children, if U ask me alot shouldn't anyway from what I am seeing these days



[edit on 21-11-2005 by ImJaded]



posted on Nov, 21 2005 @ 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by ImJaded
The second U buy for your child or allow them to buy a video game you are responsible, nobody else.

What a joke


Really? And when would those lovely folks, that are just trying to provide by working collectively for about 110 hrs/week(not including housework and homework detail) have the time to oversee this?

I'm curious, how old are you and if old enough, do you have school aged children?

I'll see your

What a joke
and raise you a


Are you saying you leave your 13 year old alone for 36 hours at a time?

Cause if you do.... your a bad parent. I will not have children if my wife or I cannot be there to raise them, the world is populated enough to have another problem child on its hands.

[edit on 11/21/05 by HumptyDumpty]



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